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  1. I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM
    cassette ( I moved to the mountians and I'm too big a wuss
    to turn over the 23 on some of the climbs around here).

    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the
    39-12, but on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or
    is it 15, either way its the 3 smallest cogs). I also
    replaced the chain with the new cassette.

    Is it possible that changing the make of the cassette
    altered my chainline? If so, what's the solution (ignore, BB
    spacer, re-space the hub, buy a Shimano cassette)?

    Ted C.

  2. Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard to
    believe that the cassette is wider than your original.but
    problem is .So I would try the adj screws a couple turns and
    see what happens.

  3. Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

    Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard
    to believe that the cassette is wider than your
    original.but problem is .So I would try the adj screws a
    couple turns and see what happens.

    I think he's saying the chain is rubbing on the big
    chainring, not the front der. Adjusting the der will have no
    effect on that.

    Art Harris

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by ejcookso
    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM
    cassette ( I moved to the mountians and I'm too big a wuss
    to turn over the 23 on some of the climbs around here).

    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the
    39-12, but on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or
    is it 15, either way its the 3 smallest cogs). I also
    replaced the chain with the new cassette.

    Is it possible that changing the make of the cassette
    altered my chainline? If so, what's the solution (ignore, BB
    spacer, re-space the hub, buy a Shimano cassette)?

    Ted C.

    I doubt that the cassette is at fault... it can only change the chainline slightly by moving in or out on the cassette body. However, if it is a few .1s of a mm wider than your previous casette, it will want the chain to be further out... and this does change the angle of the chain slightly.
    Cassette bodies and cassettes each have manufacturing tolerances. Some cassettes and cassette bodies are oversized or undersized. You may be dealing with an oversized cassette.
    Since you also replaced the chain, I would focus on the details of the outer dimensions of the chain itself... especially compared to what you had before. There are differences in the outer dimensions of various chains.
    Cross chaining in the gears you are talking about should be avoided. You should be able to get close to the same effective ratio without cross chaining.

  5. Harris said:
    Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

    Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard
    to believe that the cassette is wider than your
    original.but problem is .So I would try the adj screws a
    couple turns and see what happens.

    I think he's saying the chain is rubbing on the big
    chainring, not the front der. Adjusting the der will have
    no effect on that.

    Art Harris

    Yes, its the big ring thats rubbing. The deraillieur
    would've been easy.

    Ted C

  6. I don't think this has anything to do with thew new
    cassette. I have used SRAM road cassettes for a few years
    now and it is my experience that they are identical in
    width and alignment on Shimano splined wheels. I honestly
    suspect that with a new, rigid chain, your chain line is
    more direct (chains get sloppy side to side with wear too),
    and that once the chain breaks in, you will get at least
    the third cog in and perhaps second over time. I notice
    this every time I put a new chain on and it clears up after
    about 300 miles.

    Good luck!

    Terry

    daveornee said:
    ejcookso said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26
    SRAM cassette ( I moved to the mountians and I'm too
    big a wuss to turn over the 23 on some of the climbs
    around here). On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on
    the big gear in the 39-12, but on the SRAM, i get
    rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15, either way
    its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain
    with the new cassette. Is it possible that changing
    the make of the cassette altered my chainline? If so,
    what's the solution (ignore, BB spacer, re-space the
    hub, buy a Shimano cassette)? Ted C.

    I doubt that the cassette is at fault... it can only
    change the chainline slightly by moving in or out on the
    cassette body. However, if it is a few .1s of a mm wider
    than your previous casette, it will want the chain to be
    further out... and this does change the angle of the chain
    slightly. Cassette bodies and cassettes each have
    manufacturing tolerances. Some cassettes and cassette
    bodies are oversized or undersized. You may be dealing
    with an oversized cassette. Since you also replaced the
    chain, I would focus on the details of the outer
    dimensions of the chain itself... especially compared to
    what you had before. There are differences in the outer
    dimensions of various chains. Cross chaining in the gears
    you are talking about should be avoided. You should be
    able to get close to the same effective ratio without
    cross chaining.

    --

  7. ej-<< I also replaced the chain with the new cassette.

    Quoted message said:
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    9s chain? sounds like ya might have a 8s one. Some bike
    shops say they are cross compatible, 8s with a 9s cogset and
    the reverse but nope.

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    Boulder, CO, 80302
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  8. Quoted message said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26
    SRAM cassette. >


    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the
    39-12, but

    Quoted message said:

    on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it
    15, either way its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced
    the chain with the new cassette.

    I don't see how it's possible that a new cassette would
    change your chainline by 2 whole gears (9-10 mm). Something
    else must have changed.

    --
    Dave dvt at psu dot edu

  9. 9s chains vary a little (6.2-6.8) but is it possible that
    your new chain is noisier? I use the cassette you mention
    with much satisfaction. (Sram 89R hollow pin 6.2mm) Tom
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette. >


    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12, but

    Quoted message said:

    on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15, either way
    its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with the new
    cassette.

    I don't see how it's possible that a new cassette would change your


    chainline

    Quoted message said:

    by 2 whole gears (9-10 mm). Something else must have changed.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

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