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  1. I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette (
    I moved to the mountians and I'm too big a wuss to turn over the 23 on
    some of the climbs around here).

    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12, but
    on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15, either way
    its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with the new
    cassette.

    Is it possible that changing the make of the cassette altered my
    chainline? If so, what's the solution (ignore, BB spacer, re-space
    the hub, buy a Shimano cassette)?

    Ted C.

  2. Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard to believe that the
    cassette is wider than your original.but problem is .So I would try the adj
    screws a couple turns and see what happens.

  3. Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

    Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard to believe that the
    cassette is wider than your original.but problem is .So I would try the adj
    screws a couple turns and see what happens.

    I think he's saying the chain is rubbing on the big chainring, not the
    front der. Adjusting the der will have no effect on that.

    Art Harris

  4. ejcookso said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette ( I
    moved to the mountians and I'm too big a wuss to turn over the 23 on
    some of the climbs around here).
    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12,
    but on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15,
    either way its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with
    the new cassette.
    Is it possible that changing the make of the cassette altered my
    chainline? If so, what's the solution (ignore, BB spacer, re-space the
    hub, buy a Shimano cassette)?
    Ted C.

    I doubt that the cassette is at fault... it can only change the
    chainline slightly by moving in or out on the cassette body. However,
    if it is a few .1s of a mm wider than your previous casette, it will
    want the chain to be further out... and this does change the angle of
    the chain slightly. Cassette bodies and cassettes each have
    manufacturing tolerances. Some cassettes and cassette bodies are
    oversized or undersized. You may be dealing with an oversized cassette.
    Since you also replaced the chain, I would focus on the details of the
    outer dimensions of the chain itself... especially compared to what you
    had before. There are differences in the outer dimensions of various
    chains. Cross chaining in the gears you are talking about should be
    avoided. You should be able to get close to the same effective ratio
    without cross chaining.

    --

  5. Harris said:
    Jamie TrailBlazer At Large said:

    Try adjusting the derailleur out just a little .Its hard to believe that the
    cassette is wider than your original.but problem is .So I would try the adj
    screws a couple turns and see what happens.

    I think he's saying the chain is rubbing on the big chainring, not the
    front der. Adjusting the der will have no effect on that.

    Art Harris

    Yes, its the big ring thats rubbing. The deraillieur would've been
    easy.

    Ted C

  6. I don't think this has anything to do with thew new cassette. I have
    used SRAM road cassettes for a few years now and it is my experience
    that they are identical in width and alignment on Shimano splined
    wheels. I honestly suspect that with a new, rigid chain, your chain
    line is more direct (chains get sloppy side to side with wear too), and
    that once the chain breaks in, you will get at least the third cog in
    and perhaps second over time. I notice this every time I put a new
    chain on and it clears up after about 300 miles.

    Good luck!

    Terry

    daveornee said:
    ejcookso said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette ( I
    moved to the mountians and I'm too big a wuss to turn over the 23 on
    some of the climbs around here).
    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12,
    but on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15,
    either way its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with
    the new cassette.
    Is it possible that changing the make of the cassette altered my
    chainline? If so, what's the solution (ignore, BB spacer, re-space the
    hub, buy a Shimano cassette)?
    Ted C.

    I doubt that the cassette is at fault... it can only change the
    chainline slightly by moving in or out on the cassette body. However,
    if it is a few .1s of a mm wider than your previous casette, it will
    want the chain to be further out... and this does change the angle of
    the chain slightly. Cassette bodies and cassettes each have
    manufacturing tolerances. Some cassettes and cassette bodies are
    oversized or undersized. You may be dealing with an oversized cassette.
    Since you also replaced the chain, I would focus on the details of the
    outer dimensions of the chain itself... especially compared to what you
    had before. There are differences in the outer dimensions of various
    chains. Cross chaining in the gears you are talking about should be
    avoided. You should be able to get close to the same effective ratio
    without cross chaining.

    --

  7. ej-<< I also replaced the chain with the new
    cassette. >><BR><BR>

    9s chain? sounds like ya might have a 8s one. Some bike shops say they are
    cross compatible, 8s with a 9s cogset and the reverse but nope.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  8. Quoted message said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette. >


    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12, but

    Quoted message said:

    on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15, either way
    its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with the new
    cassette.

    I don't see how it's possible that a new cassette would change your chainline
    by 2 whole gears (9-10 mm). Something else must have changed.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  9. 9s chains vary a little (6.2-6.8) but is it possible that your new chain is
    noisier? I use the cassette you mention with much satisfaction. (Sram 89R
    hollow pin 6.2mm)
    Tom
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just replaced my 12-23 Ultegra cassette with a 12-26 SRAM cassette. >


    On the Ultegra, I only got chain rub on the big gear in the 39-12, but

    Quoted message said:

    on the SRAM, i get rubbing in the 39-12,13,14 (or is it 15, either way
    its the 3 smallest cogs). I also replaced the chain with the new
    cassette.

    I don't see how it's possible that a new cassette would change your


    chainline

    Quoted message said:

    by 2 whole gears (9-10 mm). Something else must have changed.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

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