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  1. Ryan Cousineau said:
    Mark Hickey said:

    John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    Japanese writing often includes Chinese characters.

    As does Korean. The differences are obvious if you've spent time in
    either country. In short, the Korean Hangul characters are a lot more
    angular than the Japanese characters.

    Don't forget the circles. Hangul has a lot more circles in it than
    either Chinese or Japanese scripts.

    Good point...

    Quoted message said:

    Most importantly, Hangul has 24 characters, which is about 10000 fewer
    than either Chinese or Japanese (well, maybe Simplified Chinese is a bit
    better than that).

    It occurs to me that the Korean alphabet looks something like the font
    that's used for the account number on the bottom of a check.

    When I lived in China, I considered trying to learn to read and write
    Chinese - for about 10 seconds. I did the math and realized that I'd
    never live long enough to get really good at it, and knew I'd have to
    use it every day for the rest of my life to stay proficient.

    When Iived in Korea, I DID learn the Hangul alphabet. My vocabulary
    was limited, but sometimes I would get surprised to find out that the
    Hangul spelled out an English word... ("hmmmm... eye suh cuh lee
    mah.... oh, ice cream!"😉.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  2. Mark Hickey said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:
    Mark Hickey said:

    John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Japanese writing often includes Chinese characters.

    As does Korean. The differences are obvious if you've spent time in
    either country. In short, the Korean Hangul characters are a lot
    more angular than the Japanese characters.

    Don't forget the circles. Hangul has a lot more circles in it than
    either Chinese or Japanese scripts.

    Good point...

    Quoted message said:

    Most importantly, Hangul has 24 characters, which is about 10000
    fewer than either Chinese or Japanese (well, maybe Simplified
    Chinese is a bit better than that).

    It occurs to me that the Korean alphabet looks something like the font
    that's used for the account number on the bottom of a check.

    When I lived in China, I considered trying to learn to read and write
    Chinese - for about 10 seconds. I did the math and realized that I'd
    never live long enough to get really good at it, and knew I'd have to
    use it every day for the rest of my life to stay proficient.

    When Iived in Korea, I DID learn the Hangul alphabet. My vocabulary
    was limited, but sometimes I would get surprised to find out that the
    Hangul spelled out an English word... ("hmmmm... eye suh cuh lee
    mah.... oh, ice cream!"😉.

    It's not just Korean. My parents never chose a Chinese name for me, as I
    was born in the States. When it came time to come up with a Chinese name,
    for educational purposes, they phonetically spelled my English name in
    Chinese. It has a decent meaning, too, but I don't remember it anymore.
    They also say stuff like "bih tah min" for vitamin.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  3. Squid-in-Training said:


    It's not just Korean. My parents never chose a Chinese name for me, as I
    was born in the States. When it came time to come up with a Chinese name,
    for educational purposes, they phonetically spelled my English name in
    Chinese. It has a decent meaning, too, but I don't remember it anymore.

    Something like (in Mandarin) Feili or Feilipu, Da Youyu.

    It's not good to forget one's own name...

    JT

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  4. John Forrest Tomlinson said:
    Squid-in-Training said:

    It's not just Korean. My parents never chose a Chinese name for me, as I
    was born in the States. When it came time to come up with a Chinese name,
    for educational purposes, they phonetically spelled my English name in
    Chinese. It has a decent meaning, too, but I don't remember it anymore.

    Something like (in Mandarin) Feili or Feilipu, Da Youyu.

    It's not good to forget one's own name...

    I picked out my own Chinese name (a risky process, but my Chinese
    friends told me it was a good one). It was (is...) Hai Keh Mah Keh
    (phoenetically, and with the family name first). That Translates to
    "overseas guest", which I thought was strangely appropriate.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  5. Squid-in-Training said:
    Mark Hickey said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Mark Hickey <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    >> Japanese writing often includes Chinese characters.
    >
    > As does Korean. The differences are obvious if you've spent time in
    > either country. In short, the Korean Hangul characters are a lot
    > more angular than the Japanese characters.

    Don't forget the circles. Hangul has a lot more circles in it than
    either Chinese or Japanese scripts.

    Good point...

    Quoted message said:

    Most importantly, Hangul has 24 characters, which is about 10000
    fewer than either Chinese or Japanese (well, maybe Simplified
    Chinese is a bit better than that).

    It occurs to me that the Korean alphabet looks something like the font
    that's used for the account number on the bottom of a check.

    When I lived in China, I considered trying to learn to read and write
    Chinese - for about 10 seconds. I did the math and realized that I'd
    never live long enough to get really good at it, and knew I'd have to
    use it every day for the rest of my life to stay proficient.

    When Iived in Korea, I DID learn the Hangul alphabet. My vocabulary
    was limited, but sometimes I would get surprised to find out that the
    Hangul spelled out an English word... ("hmmmm... eye suh cuh lee
    mah.... oh, ice cream!"😉.

    It's not just Korean. My parents never chose a Chinese name for me, as I
    was born in the States. When it came time to come up with a Chinese name,
    for educational purposes, they phonetically spelled my English name in
    Chinese. It has a decent meaning, too, but I don't remember it anymore.

    Dang, and I thought "Squid in training" was your Chinese name translated.

    Ron

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Squid-in-Training said:

    It's not just Korean. My parents never chose a Chinese name for me, as I
    was born in the States. When it came time to come up with a Chinese name,
    for educational purposes, they phonetically spelled my English name in
    Chinese. It has a decent meaning, too, but I don't remember it anymore.

    Quoted message said:
    John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    Something like (in Mandarin) Feili or Feilipu, Da Youyu.
    It's not good to forget one's own name...

    Mark Hickey said:

    I picked out my own Chinese name (a risky process, but my Chinese
    friends told me it was a good one). It was (is...) Hai Keh Mah Keh
    (phoenetically, and with the family name first). That Translates to
    "overseas guest", which I thought was strangely appropriate.

    My Japanese business cards use the characters Mu and Zei,
    "no tax". Easy to remember.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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