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    I thought I'd make ice cream for a holiday dessert, and spumone seemed to be the answer, as the
    recipe called for spirits, candied fruit, nuts, etc.

    Here is the recipe, and my experience with it (first try):

    ***********************

    SPUMONE DI TAORMINA (by Nicola Zanghi)*

    Vegetable oil (for greasing ice cream mold) Grated rind of one blood orange
    1/4 cup finely chopped toasted almonds
    2/4 cup finely chopped candied fruit 3 tablespoons orange liqueur (I used Hiram Walker
    Orance Curacao)
    3/4 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 pint heavy cream, beaten until stiff
    4/4 cup sugar 4 tablespoons light corn syrup 6 eggs at room temperature, well-beaten (I used eggs
    graded extra-large)

    Grease ice cream mold with vegetable oil. Fold orange rind, candied fruit, liqueur and chopped nuts
    into whipped cream, chill in refrigerator. Combine sugar and corn syrup in saucepan and cook to 220
    degrees F, just below soft-ball stage. Pour syrup slowly into the eggs, whisking constantly. Whisk
    over ice until mixture is cool, then fold into chilled whipped cream, turn into greased mold, freeze
    overnight. Unmold by quickly dipping mold into tepid water.

    *The Great Cooks' Guide to Ice Cream & Other Frozen Desserts, Wendy Afton Reider, Kate Slate, et
    al., eds. New York: Random House, 1977. 54 pp.

    *****************

    Results and comments:

    5. Sugar syrup: when I tried to cook this, the syrup cooked QUICKLY to the crack stage and I had to
    discard it. Second try, I added 1/4 cup water to the mixture and was able to cook it more slowly
    and gently, to the desired soft-ball stage.

    6. Color: I added 1 tablespoon of blood orange juice to the whipped cream to give it a nice pink
    look. The orange rind didn't add enough pinkness (there is much variety in blood orange rinds;
    some are plain orange and some are reddish).

    7. Consistency of frozen product: the heavy parts of the mixture (egg yolks, nuts, fruit peel)
    settled to the bottom, and the whipped cream rose to the top, as the mixture froze overnight.
    When I served it I scraped off the lighter top mixture and served that only. Note for next time:
    stir this at regular intervals as the mixture freezes.

    8. Sometimes spumone is served as a multi-layered molded ice cream dessert, with the spumone flavor
    as one layer, plus another layer of chocolate and one of pistachio (or strawberry) and a layer of
    sponge cake or some sort of cake on the bottom. It's really quite a spectacular and pretty
    dessert if made properly, but I think molded ice cream treats have generally gone out of fashion.

    This was delicious, but I think it needed to be mixed up more thoroughly. However, the recipe did
    not call for it being frozen in a hand-crank freezer.

    Anyhow, learn from my experience. I saw some "Safeway Select Brand" spumone ice cream at the store
    this evening and I almost bought it (it had layers of rum-flavored, chocolate and pistachio ice
    creams) until I read the ingredients list. It contained turnips, as well as polysorbate 60. Phfew.

    -- dkra

    --
    dkraatmmiiidotixdotnetcomdotcom [Subtract two thousand and (one plus two), plus the "." of course.]

  2. dkra wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyhow, learn from my experience. I saw some "Safeway Select Brand" spumone ice cream at the store
    this evening and I almost bought it (it had layers of rum-flavored, chocolate and pistachio ice
    creams) until I read the ingredients list. It contained turnips, as well as polysorbate 60. Phfew.

    what is wrong with turnips?

    --
    Saerah

    TANSTAAFL

    "We're all one thing, Lieutenant. That's what I've come to realize. Like
    cells in a body. 'Cept we can't see the body. The way fish can't see the
    ocean. And so we envy each other. Hurt each other. Hate each other. How
    silly is that? A heart cell hating a lung cell." - Cassie from THE THREE

  3. On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:56:27 GMT, [email hidden]

    (dkra) said:

    I thought I'd make ice cream for a holiday dessert, and spumone seemed to be the answer, as the
    recipe called for spirits, candied fruit, nuts, etc.

    Here is the recipe, and my experience with it (first try):

    ***********************

    SPUMONE DI TAORMINA (by Nicola Zanghi)*

    Thank you for both the recipe, which looked enticing, and your experience with it.

    The recipe reminded me (a little) of semi-freddo Jamie Oliver has made on a couple of his shows.

    foodnetwork.com0,,FOOD 9936 13256,00.html

    This recipe folds praline into the mix. He did another with crushed malted milk/chocolate candy, so
    it seems that a spumone variation (or others) would be possible. *I* haven't tried it, but it looked
    relatively fool-proof on TV. :-)

  4. (dkra) said:


    I thought I'd make ice cream for a holiday dessert, and spumone seemed to be the answer, as the
    recipe called for spirits, candied fruit, nuts, etc.

    SPUMONE DI TAORMINA (by Nicola Zanghi)*

    Vegetable oil (for greasing ice cream mold) Grated rind of one blood orange
    1/4 cup finely chopped toasted almonds
    1/4 cup finely chopped candied fruit 3 tablespoons orange liqueur (I used Hiram Walker Orance
    Curacao)
    1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 pint heavy cream, beaten until stiff
    3/4 cup sugar 4 tablespoons light corn syrup 6 eggs at room temperature, well-beaten (I used eggs
    graded extra-large)

    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    See my previously posted recipe for spumoni.... glommed years ago from the ultimate source:
    spumonigardens.comspumonigardens.com No, you won't find recipes at their website.... you need to be
    'connected'.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon
    ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  5. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

    spumoni

    SYLLABICATION: spu·mo·ni

    VARIANT FORMS: spu·mo·ne <<<<<< Yo Cookie! Connect with this. Did ya even ever make this
    in the Navy?

    "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20031227094940.21457.00003007@mb-
    m10.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    (dkra) said:


    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni


    incorrectly),.....blah....blah....blah...rehash...rehash

  6. Frogleg <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:56:27 GMT, [email hidden] (dkra) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    SPUMONE DI TAORMINA (by Nicola Zanghi)*

    Thank you for both the recipe, which looked enticing, and your experience with it.

    The recipe reminded me (a little) of semi-freddo Jamie Oliver has made on a couple of his shows.

    foodnetwork.com0,,FOOD 9936 13256,00.ht ml

    This recipe folds praline into the mix. He did another with crushed malted milk/chocolate candy,
    so it seems that a spumone variation (or others) would be possible. *I* haven't tried it, but it
    looked relatively fool-proof on TV. :-)

    I've made semifreddo a couple of times - though from a Donna Hay recipe, not a Jamie Oliver one. For
    Christmas a couple of years ago I made a mixed berry semifreddo, for this Christmas a passionfruit
    one. Really quite simple to make, and does not require stirring during the freezing process. The
    passionfruit one required cooking passionfruit pulp with sugar to make a syrup, but the mixed berry
    one was simply a matter of folding the berries through.

    Here's the recipe for the passionfruit one

    250ml cup

    3/4 cup passionfruit pulp
    4/2 cup caster sugar 3 eggs 3 egg yolks, extra
    5/3 cup caster sugar, extra 1 3/4 cup cream

    Place the passionfruit and sugar in saucepan over medium heat. Allow to simmer, stirring, for 4
    minutes, or until the sugar dissolves and the mixture has thickened. Set aside to cool.

    Place the eggs, extra yolks and extra sugar in a heatproof bowl. Place over a saucepan of simmering
    water and whisk the mixture for 4 to 5 minutes or until heated through and frothy. Remove from the
    heat and beat with an electric mixer for 5-6 minutes or until pale and thick. Gently fold the cooled
    passionfruit mixture through the egg mixture and set aside. Beat the cream in the bowl of an
    electric mixer until very soft peaks form. Gently fold the egg mixture through the cream and pour
    into a metal bowl or cake tin. Cover with foil and freeze for 4-6 hours or until firm.

    Also have recipes for creamy lemon, crushed raspberry (used mixed berries instead to make this one),
    double chocolate and vanilla bean. They are all basically the same procedure, just with differences
    in how to flavour them. These were all in a Donna Hay magazine a couple of years ago.

    Rhonda Anderson Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

  7. On 27 Dec 2003 14:49:40 GMT, [email hidden] (PENMART01)

    Quoted message said:

    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    So, what's the one that's laden with candied fruit, nuts & booze? I don't remember any icecream
    color other than white or maybe a light pink and it was just one or the other, not both. Haven't had
    any in years. Used to get it on the train when I was a kid and it was good stuff!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  8. sf <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    (PENMART01) said:

    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    So, what's the one that's laden with candied fruit, nuts & booze? I don't remember any icecream
    color other than white or maybe a light pink and it was just one or the other, not both. Haven't
    had any in years. Used to get it on the train when I was a kid and it was good stuff!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

    I remember eating this many times in an excellent Italian restaurant on the outskirts of Detroit,
    but was many years ago. It was apparently formed in a conical mold and contained three layers. One
    layers was as you described, a creamy ivory color laden with candied fruit, nuts, and booze; a
    second layer was definitely pistachio and tinted pale green; the third was a chocolate with cinnamon
    and was brown, of course. All three layers were inordinately creamy. On the menu it was listed as
    Spumoni. They also listed Biscuit Tortoni, which was disk-shaped, even creamier, and also contained
    candied fruit and nuts and, I think, rum. I think it may also have contained some broken macaroons.
    It was delicious, too. Both were the best I've ever tasted and are the standards by which I judge
    other spumonis and tortonis.

    I would think that the particular ingredients and construction vary by region, both in Italy and
    in the US.

    Wayne

  9. "Saerah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    dkra wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyhow, learn from my experience. I saw some "Safeway Select Brand" spumone ice cream at the
    store this evening and I almost bought it (it had layers of rum-flavored, chocolate and
    pistachio ice creams) until I read the ingredients list. It contained turnips, as well as
    polysorbate 60. Phfew.

    Piggy backing. The SS Spumoni I bought in the past was delicious.

    -L.

  10. sf <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (PENMART01) said:

    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    So, what's the one that's laden with candied fruit, nuts & booze? I don't remember any icecream
    color other than white or maybe a light pink and it was just one or the other, not both. Haven't
    had any in years. Used to get it on the train when I was a kid and it was good stuff!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

    The Spumoni I have always had has three layers - Chocolate, Pistachio, and Cherry/rum (with dried
    fruits - cherries and possibly pineapple).

    -L.

  11. Wayne Boatwright said:

    sf <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    (PENMART01) said:

    That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    So, what's the one that's laden with candied fruit, nuts & booze? I don't remember any icecream
    color other than white or maybe a light pink and it was just one or the other, not both.
    Haven't had any in years. Used to get it on the train when I was a kid and it was good stuff!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

    I remember eating this many times in an excellent Italian restaurant on the outskirts of Detroit,
    but was many years ago. It was apparently formed in a conical mold and contained three layers.
    One layers was as you described, a creamy ivory color laden with candied fruit, nuts, and booze;
    a second layer was definitely pistachio and tinted pale green; the third was a chocolate with
    cinnamon and was brown, of course. All three layers were inordinately creamy. On the menu it was
    listed as Spumoni. They also listed Biscuit Tortoni, which was disk-shaped, even creamier, and
    also contained candied fruit and nuts and, I think, rum. I think it may also have contained some
    broken macaroons. It was delicious, too. Both were the best I've ever tasted and are the
    standards by which I judge other spumonis and tortonis.

    I would think that the particular ingredients and construction vary by region, both in Italy and
    in the US.

    You're from Michigan too? Cool! I'm from the "other side" of the state. 9 miles from Lake Michigan
    and smack dab in the middle of "nowhere"... Allegan County - 60 miles from Muskegan, 60 miles from
    Kalamazoo and 60 miles from Grand Rapids... we were closer to Saugatuck/Holland, but they were still
    a good 1/2 hour away.

    Saugatuck, the mini-Sausalito of Michigan saugatuck.comareamaps frame.htm

    *Pullman I lived outside town about a mile E via the main road (109th, I think - we didn't use
    addresses in those days)... on a lake, of course makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  12. sf <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    sf <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On 27 Dec 2003 14:49:40 GMT, [email hidden] (PENMART01) wrote:

    > That's not spumoni (btw, you spelled spumoni incorrectly), yours is instead closer to some
    > fercocktah recipe for tortoni, not even.

    So, what's the one that's laden with candied fruit, nuts & booze? I don't remember any
    icecream color other than white or maybe a light pink and it was just one or the other, not
    both. Haven't had any in years. Used to get it on the train when I was a kid and it was good
    stuff!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

    I remember eating this many times in an excellent Italian restaurant on the outskirts of
    Detroit, but was many years ago. It was apparently formed in a conical mold and contained three
    layers. One layers was as you described, a creamy ivory color laden with candied fruit, nuts,
    and booze; a second layer was definitely pistachio and tinted pale green; the third was a
    chocolate with cinnamon and was brown, of course. All three layers were inordinately creamy. On
    the menu it was listed as Spumoni. They also listed Biscuit Tortoni, which was disk-shaped, even
    creamier, and also contained candied fruit and nuts and, I think, rum. I think it may also have
    contained some broken macaroons. It was delicious, too. Both were the best I've ever tasted and
    are the standards by which I judge other spumonis and tortonis.

    I would think that the particular ingredients and construction vary by region, both in Italy and
    in the US.

    You're from Michigan too? Cool! I'm from the "other side" of the state. 9 miles from Lake Michigan
    and smack dab in the middle of "nowhere"... Allegan County - 60 miles from Muskegan, 60 miles from
    Kalamazoo and 60 miles from Grand Rapids... we were closer to Saugatuck/Holland, but they were
    still a good 1/2 hour away.

    Saugatuck, the mini-Sausalito of Michigan saugatuck.comareamaps frame.htm

    *Pullman I lived outside town about a mile E via the main road (109th, I think - we didn't use
    addresses in those days)... on a lake, of course makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Wish I could say yes, as I think Michigan is beautiful. However, we lived in NE Ohio and had friends
    in Southfield with whom we visited frequently. We also had friends in Lansing, but didn't get to see
    them as often. The restaurant was either in Southfield or quite nearby. Unfortunatly, I don't
    remember the name, but it was our friends' favorite and we dined there almost every visit. Where we
    live now, our next door neighbors are from Holland.

  13. x-no-archive: yes

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (-L.) wrote:

    [Safeway Select Brand Spumoni ice cream]

    Quoted message said:

    Piggy backing. The SS Spumoni I bought in the past was delicious.

    A local Italian delicatessen (Genova Delicatessen, 51st and Telegraph Avenues, Oakland, CA) carries
    Brothers Brand Italian ice creams (chocolate, lemon ice, and spumoni). The ingredients list for
    their spumoni looked far more appetizing, more like something from Haagen-Dasz. The three flavors
    (chocolate, pistachio, strawberry rum with cherries and chocolate chips) were spun together, not
    packaged in distinct layers.

    -- dkra

    --
    dkraatmmiiidotixdotnetcomdotcom [Subtract two thousand and (one plus two), plus the "." of course.]

  14. [email hidden] (dkra) wrote in
    "]news:[email hidden]
    m:

    Quoted message said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (-L.) wrote:

    [Safeway Select Brand Spumoni ice cream]

    Quoted message said:

    Piggy backing. The SS Spumoni I bought in the past was delicious.

    A local Italian delicatessen (Genova Delicatessen, 51st and Telegraph Avenues, Oakland, CA)
    carries Brothers Brand Italian ice creams (chocolate, lemon ice, and spumoni). The ingredients
    list for their spumoni looked far more appetizing, more like something from Haagen-Dasz. The three
    flavors (chocolate, pistachio, strawberry rum with cherries and chocolate chips) were spun
    together, not packaged in distinct layers.

    -- dkra

    I've found a number of commercial spummonis and they've all benn "spun together" as you describe.
    Unfortunately, I think that style blurs the flavors.

    Wayne

  15. Wayne Boatwright said:

    Where we live now, our next door neighbors are from Holland.

    It's a small world after all!

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  16. x-no-archive: yes

    In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne Boatwright
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I've found a number of commercial spummonis and they've all benn "spun together" as you describe.
    Unfortunately, I think that style blurs the flavors.

    There are different ideas on what constitutes authentic spumoni (I am eschewing all the American
    recipes which call for canned cherry pie filling, commercial ice cream, and frozen whipped topping).

    The recipes I've seen seem to fall into two distinct groups:

    1. The "semifreddo" of eggs/hot sugar syrup folded into whipped cream mixed with nuts, candied
    fruit, spirits.

    2. The multi-layered bombe (three or four layered flavors of ice cream: vanilla or rum, strawberry,
    chocolate, pistachio; with a soft center: whipped cream mixed with nuts, candied fruit, spirits,
    cherries, perhaps also chocolate chips).

    See link for illustration: lezza.comspumoni.htm

    Also see ASCII illustration (view with monotype font ONLY, please!)

    From: Timothy Sutter <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: alt.timothy.sutter,alt.discordia,alt.non.s-
    equitur,alt.slack,alt.edgar,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.philosophy,alt.satanism Subject: Re: my candy
    store Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:10:50 -0500 Organization: The Organization Message-ID:
    <[email hidden]>

    <snip>

    and spumoni.

    yeah, spumoni, cuz you just can't find that stuff in any supermarket.

    it's a sort of ice cream treat which is like this;

    *****************************************************
    * Chocolate *
    * ******************************************** *
    * * Strawberry * *
    * * ********************************** * *
    * * * Vanilla * * *
    * * * ******************** * * *
    * * * * Pistachio with a * * * *
    * * * * cherry center * * * *
    * * * ******************** * * *
    * * * * * *
    * * ********************************** * *
    * * * *
    * ******************************************** *
    * *
    *****************************************************

    and the pistachio iced cream is green. with a bit of red cherry iced cream in the middle and a
    cherry center.

    that neapolitan stuff doesn't quite make it,

    gotta bring back spumoni.

    <snip>

    Google shows many people (yea, even in this newsgroup) looking for the recipe for this treat. Little
    information was actually offered; there were more recipe requests than recipes. I even looked in
    it.hobby.cucina for ideas, but found little there either. I guess when someone comes up with a good
    spumoni/spumone recipe, it becomes a closely guarded secret. ;-)

    Dear Italian readers of rec.food.cooking: do you have any recipes to share? Thanks in advance.
    Molto grazie.

    -- dkra

    --
    dkraatmmiiidotixdotnetcomdotcom [Subtract two thousand and (one plus two), plus the "." of course.]

  17. [email hidden] (dkra) wrote in
    "]news:[email hidden]
    m:

    Quoted message said:

    x-no-archive: yes

    In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne Boatwright
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I've found a number of commercial spummonis and they've all benn "spun together" as you describe.
    Unfortunately, I think that style blurs the flavors.

    There are different ideas on what constitutes authentic spumoni (I am eschewing all the American
    recipes which call for canned cherry pie filling, commercial ice cream, and frozen whipped
    topping).

    The recipes I've seen seem to fall into two distinct groups:

    1. The "semifreddo" of eggs/hot sugar syrup folded into whipped cream mixed with nuts, candied
    fruit, spirits.

    2. The multi-layered bombe (three or four layered flavors of ice cream: vanilla or rum,
    strawberry, chocolate, pistachio; with a soft center: whipped cream mixed with nuts, candied
    fruit, spirits, cherries, perhaps also chocolate chips).

    Now THAT's Spumoni! Thanks!

    Wayne

    Quoted message said:


    See link for illustration: lezza.comspumoni.htm

    Also see ASCII illustration (view with monotype font ONLY, please!)

    From: Timothy Sutter <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    alt.timothy.sutter,alt.discordia,alt.non.sequitur,alt.slack,alt.edgar,a
    lt.philosophy.taoism,alt.philosophy,alt.satanism Subject: Re: my candy store Date: Wed, 27 Dec
    2000 01:10:50 -0500 Organization: The Organization Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    <snip>

    and spumoni.

    yeah, spumoni, cuz you just can't find that stuff in any supermarket.

    it's a sort of ice cream treat which is like this;

    *****************************************************
    * Chocolate *
    * ******************************************** *
    * * Strawberry * *
    * * ********************************** * *
    * * * Vanilla * * *
    * * * ******************** * * *
    * * * * Pistachio with a * * * *
    * * * * cherry center * * * *
    * * * ******************** * * *
    * * * * * *
    * * ********************************** * *
    * * * *
    * ******************************************** *
    * *
    *****************************************************

    and the pistachio iced cream is green. with a bit of red cherry iced cream in the middle and a
    cherry center.

    that neapolitan stuff doesn't quite make it,

    gotta bring back spumoni.

    <snip>

    Google shows many people (yea, even in this newsgroup) looking for the recipe for this treat.
    Little information was actually offered; there were more recipe requests than recipes. I even
    looked in it.hobby.cucina for ideas, but found little there either. I guess when someone comes up
    with a good spumoni/spumone recipe, it becomes a closely guarded secret. ;-)

    Dear Italian readers of rec.food.cooking: do you have any recipes to share? Thanks in advance.
    Molto grazie.

    -- dkra

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