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Sprinting at Stuttgart...

Steve McGinty · 2003-07-31T21:00:58+00:00

...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt it's turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually winning. (How do you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?) Maybe the bigger track will bring tactics back into play. The perfect sprint arena is a 333m track, but you don't get many of them indoors. Regards! Stephen

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Steve McGinty
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31 July 2003, 21:00 UTC #1

...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt it's
turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually winning. (How do
you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?)
Maybe the bigger track will bring tactics back into play.
The perfect sprint arena is a 333m track, but you don't get many of them indoors.
Regards! Stephen

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Carl Sundquist
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1 August 2003, 04:39 UTC #2

"Steve McGinty" <stephenmcginty@ntlworld_DOT_.com> wrote in message
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...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt it's
turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually winning. (How
do you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?)
Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.

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Kurgan Gringion
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1 August 2003, 07:20 UTC #3

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...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt it's
turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually winning. (How
do you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?)
Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.
Dirk used to tell me that you had much more leg speed than Niewand.

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Robert Chung
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1 August 2003, 07:41 UTC #4

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...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt it's
turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually winning. (How
do you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?)
Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.
Why?

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Kurgan Gringion
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1 August 2003, 08:01 UTC #5

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...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt
it's turned into more of a drag-race with first over the start-line on the bell usually
winning. (How do you come round someone doing low 10s on a 250m track?)
Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.
Why?
Dude had incredible leg speed, almost as good as Sundquist.

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Robert Chung
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1 August 2003, 08:01 UTC #6

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> ...might be more interesting on the bigger track. I love the Sprint, but recently I've felt
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Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.
Why?
Dude had incredible leg speed, almost as good as Sundquist.
Oh, I misunderstood Carl's post. I thought he was making some point about Niewand's special
abilities on 250m tracks as opposed to tracks of other lengths. I'm a dumbass.

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Carl Sundquist
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1 August 2003, 15:08 UTC #7

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Niewand was terrific at coming past on the last straight.
Why?
Dude had incredible leg speed, almost as good as Sundquist.
Oh, I misunderstood Carl's post. I thought he was making some point about Niewand's special
abilities on 250m tracks as opposed to tracks of other lengths. I'm a dumbass. [/B]
Aaahhh. All bow to Kurgan's Power to Divert.
Actually, I was_ referring to Niewand having an extra gear. That's partially how he was able to win the Sprint/Keirin double at Worlds 10 years ago (250 track). He was always a tactically sharp rider, but also had exceptional quickness, too. He didn't have that last tiny bit of sheer speed that most drag race type of sprinters have, but his ability to make a quick burst of speed made up for it in many cases.

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Kurgan Gringion
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1 August 2003, 20:00 UTC #8

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Dude had incredible leg speed, almost as good as Sundquist.

Oh, I misunderstood Carl's post. I thought he was making some point about Niewand's special
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other lengths. I'm a dumbass.
Aaahhh. All bow to Kurgan's Power to Divert.
Carl is too modest when it comes to discussing his positive attributes. Most cyclists love to talk
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Steve McGinty
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2 August 2003, 15:23 UTC #9

Just spent a fabulous afternoon watching the men's and women's sprinting and I'd have to say that
it's much better on the bigger track. Lots more tactics, lots more passing in the home straight. The
second ride in the Men's final was a classic. Gane was 4 lengths off Dajka at 200m but came round
him in 10.3sec.
Regards! Stephen

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Kurgan Gringion
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2 August 2003, 16:23 UTC #10

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Just spent a fabulous afternoon watching the men's and women's sprinting and I'd have to say that
it's much better on the bigger track. Lots more tactics, lots more passing in the home straight.
The second ride in the Men's final was a classic. Gane was 4 lengths off Dajka at 200m but came
round him in 10.3sec.
When it comes to spectating bike racing live, there's nothing like a world class track event. There
isn't a bad seat in the house and you can see every little tactic.
Match sprints are great, the points race and Madison are my faves, kilo and pursuit are boring, team
pursuit is exciting.

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