Sprint rims

"Reyserf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some handbuilt
sprint wheels, Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB
spokes. Dispite the fact that I

spent

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what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring their
oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I never felt
confident about my ability to glue the tubs onto the rims,
nor was I happy repairing punctures, so the wheels soon
ended up in the attic gathering dust.

Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
again. I can use

the

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Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
but I still don't fancy sprints & tubs.

Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
'wired on' rim? How easy would it

be

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to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
spokes (although they have'nt been used for twenty years
they have been under tension for that time) and which rim
could I use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic pair of
wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and it's really
not rocket science, you know - be daring!) find someone who
sells tub tape. If they're unridden and the spokes aren't
too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't have any problems at
all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.

However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new spokes
anyway, because the length will pretty much certainly be
different for any modern HP rim.

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would die
for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and
won't be particularly happy with your Bottechia.

Go on - live dangerously - give them a try. :-)

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"Reyserf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2iel1dFl52l4U1@uni-
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For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
handbuilt sprint

wheels,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Dispite
the fact that I

spent

Quoted message said:

what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring
their oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I
never felt confident about my ability

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

glue the tubs onto the rims, nor was I happy repairing
punctures, so the wheels soon ended up in the attic
gathering dust.

Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
again. I can use

the

Quoted message said:

Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
but I still

don't

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Quoted message said:

fancy sprints & tubs.

Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
'wired on' rim? How easy would it

be

Quoted message said:

to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
spokes (although

they

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have'nt been used for twenty years they have been under
tension for that time) and which rim could I use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic pair
of wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and it's
really not rocket science, you know - be daring!) find
someone who sells tub tape. If they're unridden

and

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the spokes aren't too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't have
any problems at all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.

However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new spokes
anyway, because the length

will

Quoted message said:

pretty much certainly be different for any modern HP rim.

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would die
for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and
won't be particularly happy with your

Bottechia.

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Go on - live dangerously - give them a try. :-)

The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of play
in the front hub.

Is tub tape any good?

New tires incorporate anti-puncture strips do modern tubs?

George

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"Simon D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Reyserf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
handbuilt sprint

wheels,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Should I
try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new wheel
set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a 'wired
on' rim? How easy would it

be

Quoted message said:

to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
spokes (although

they

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
under tension for that time) and which rim could I
use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
pair of wheels.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would
die for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed,
and won't be particularly happy with your

Bottechia.

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The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
play in the front hub.

Is tub tape any good?

I have *exactly* the same set of wheels, little used sitting
in the shed. Campag Record hubs from the early 80's with GP4
rims, 28 spoked.

They are terrific to ride but I know I should sell them,
but won't.

I'd use them if I were you; tubs have a special zing
compared to HPs. However, I'd avoid tub tape as if you
puncture it tends to come off and get tangled round your
arms, legs, neck...

Give the rims a layer of tub cement, let them dry, then
another layer before fitting the tub.

Enjoy your ride, and fly :-)

John B

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"Simon D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Reyserf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
handbuilt sprint

wheels,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Dispite
the fact that I

spent

Quoted message said:

what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring
their oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I
never felt confident about my ability

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

glue the tubs onto the rims, nor was I happy repairing
punctures, so

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

wheels soon ended up in the attic gathering dust.

Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
again. I can

use

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the
attic but I still

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fancy sprints & tubs.

Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
'wired on' rim? How easy would

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

be

Quoted message said:

to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
spokes (although

they

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
under tension for

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

time) and which rim could I use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
pair of wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and
it's really not rocket science, you know - be daring!)
find someone who sells tub tape. If they're unridden

and

Quoted message said:

the spokes aren't too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't
have any problems

at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.

However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new
spokes anyway, because the length

will

Quoted message said:

pretty much certainly be different for any modern
HP rim.

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would
die for. However, modern hubs

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and won't be particularly happy
with your

Bottechia.

Quoted message said:

Go on - live dangerously - give them a try. :-)

The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
play in the front hub.

Is tub tape any good?

New tires incorporate anti-puncture strips do modern tubs?

George

Just answering my own question.

Had a look at Wiggle, seems that most manufacturers claim
high puncture resistance especially for the more expensive
tubs in their ranges.

George

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"Reyserf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
> handbuilt sprint

wheels,

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> Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Should
> I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new wheel
> set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> 'wired on' rim? How easy

would it

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be
> to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> spokes

(although

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they

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> have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
> under tension for

that

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> time) and which rim could I use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
pair of wheels.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such
gorgeous wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road
bike would die for. However, modern hubs

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and won't be particularly happy
with your

Bottechia.

Quoted message said:

The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
play in the

front

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hub.

Is tub tape any good?

I have *exactly* the same set of wheels, little used
sitting in the shed. Campag Record hubs from the early
80's with GP4 rims, 28 spoked.

They are terrific to ride but I know I should sell them,
but won't.

I'd use them if I were you; tubs have a special zing
compared to HPs. However, I'd avoid tub tape as if you
puncture it tends to come off and get tangled round your
arms, legs, neck...

Give the rims a layer of tub cement, let them dry, then
another layer before fitting the tub.

Enjoy your ride, and fly :-)

John B

OK I'll see how I get on.

George

"Reyserf" < wrote in message

Quoted message said:

For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some handbuilt
sprint wheels, Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB
spokes. Dispite the fact that I

spent

Quoted message said:

what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring their
oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I never felt
confident about my ability to glue the tubs onto the rims,
nor was I happy repairing punctures, so the wheels soon
ended up in the attic gathering dust.

Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
again. I can use

the

Quoted message said:

Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
but I still don't fancy sprints & tubs.

Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
'wired on' rim? How easy would it

be

Quoted message said:

to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
spokes (although they have'nt been used for twenty years
they have been under tension for that time) and which rim
could I use?

Cheers

George

Tubs are lovely to ride on. The wheels are right for the
bike? I have four tubs only a year or two old which you can
have for £5 each, tape thrown in. And instructions for
fitting. Mike Sales.

Reyserf said:

Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a 'wired on' rim? How
easy would it be to do this myself? Could I use both the
hubs and the spokes (although they have'nt been used for
twenty years they have been under tension for that time)
and which rim could I use?

It would be fine to re-use the hubs and spokes if you
wanted to. Rim transplants are dead easy (tape new rim
besides wheel and swap spokes over one at a time) but you
do need some wheel building skills to tension and true
afterwards. Sorry I don't know which rim would suit for
same length spokes.

Note that some professional teams use clinchers nowdays --
that's how good they are now.

~PB