Sport drink

RichD said:

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade.

Look up the typical ingredients of Gatorade (just one 'sports drink' of
many now on the market):
Ingredients: water, sucrose syrup, glucose-fructose syrup, citric acid,
natural and artificial flavors, **salt, sodium citrate**, monopotassium
phosphate, ester gum, sucrose acetate isobutyrate, red 40, blue 1
Nutrition Facts: serving size: 8 fl oz; calories 50; total fat 0g;
sodium 110mg; potassium 30mg; total carbs 14g; sugars 14g

Soooo already has lots of sugars, salts, potassium ..
Cost? cheap ... a homemade version? why bother?

joanne

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Why?

Quoted message said:

Recipe suggestions, please...

Kool-Aid. Salt to taste.

"JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Why?

Quoted message said:

Recipe suggestions, please...

Kool-Aid. Salt to taste.

From about.com:

.. 9 tablespoons table sugar
.. 3/8 teaspoon table salt
.. 1 packet unsweetened Kool-Aid or other drink mix.
Portion 1/3 of the mixture into each of three ziplock bags.
To reconstitute, add contents of 1 bag to a 20-oz. sports bottle. Fill
halfway with water, mix, and fill with water, mix again.

So, in other words, what John said.

David

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Recipe suggestions, please...

--
Rich

1 gallon water
1 cup sugar
1 t salt

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Why?

Quoted message said:

Recipe suggestions, please...

Kool-Aid. Salt to taste.

From about.com:

. 9 tablespoons table sugar
. 3/8 teaspoon table salt
. 1 packet unsweetened Kool-Aid or other drink mix.
Portion 1/3 of the mixture into each of three ziplock bags.
To reconstitute, add contents of 1 bag to a 20-oz. sports bottle. Fill
halfway with water, mix, and fill with water, mix again.

So, in other words, what John said.

David

What about potassium?
Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?

It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Quoted message said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

An old girlfriend's mom made kool-aid and confused sugar for salt. After
making a full bowl of the saline punch, she dumped in a 5 pound bag of
sugar. She told me I had to drink it to be polite. I decided to look for
another girlfriend. Hindsight being 20/20, I could have bottled it as a
sports drink and kept the girl.

--
Jennifer Lopez Lingerie *plus* Gourmet Goodies
www.cafepress.com/dwacon

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

What about potassium?
Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?

It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).

It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: [email hidden] (strip the .invalid to email)

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

What about potassium?
Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?

It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).

It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.

Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.

The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.

David

David Cohen said:

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Might want to check the urine too.

Sports drinks need to replace losses fron urine? Damn, Mike, you doing a
1000 mile mega-ultra-marathon or something? We'll just have to call you
Dally 🙂

David

Kidneys are not 100% effective dontchaknow.

--
Is this thing on?

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

What about potassium?
Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?

It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).

It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.

Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.

The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.

David

They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
supposed to do, right?

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: [email hidden] (strip the .invalid to email)

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>What about potassium?
>Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?
>
>It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).

It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.

Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.

The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.

They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
supposed to do, right?

They're an authority on the rehydration of cholera patients in Third World
countries.

You DO understand the difference between a Third World cholera patient and
that skinny runner with the $150 shoes jogging down your street, right?

David

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

It's a non-issue unless you're doing a lot of sweating
for a long time. Hyponatremia patients are slow marathoners
(4hrs or more), who are usually not well trained or
acclimated. Typically, the hyponatremia patients also
took in too much water.

Quoted message said:

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade.

Salt will taste terrible in a drink. Much easier to take
salt capsules. But unless you're out there for 3 hours
or more, you shouldn't need them.

Quoted message said:

What is the correct dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart?
I recall a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as another idea.

I think most salt capsule bottles provide recommended doses.
My recollection is that the classic gatorade formula contains
enough to slow down salt loss, but not to maintain.

Quoted message said:

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars,

Why not ?

Quoted message said:

perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or

Why ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>What about potassium?
>>Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?
>>
>>It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).
>
> It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
> the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
> potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.

Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.

The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.

They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
supposed to do, right?

They're an authority on the rehydration of cholera patients in Third World
countries.

You DO understand the difference between a Third World cholera patient and
that skinny runner with the $150 shoes jogging down your street, right?

David

Yep. One has lots more money.
The other needs the best rehydration they can get. Gatorade and such
are used by the ones with money to waste.

Now tell me the difference between the sports drinks and the
rehydration formula, other than price?

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: [email hidden] (strip the .invalid to email)

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>What about potassium?
>>>Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?
>>>
>>>It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).
>>
>> It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
>> the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
>> potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.
>
>Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.
>
>The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.

They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
supposed to do, right?

They're an authority on the rehydration of cholera patients in Third World
countries.

You DO understand the difference between a Third World cholera patient and
that skinny runner with the $150 shoes jogging down your street, right?

Yep. One has lots more money.
The other needs the best rehydration they can get. Gatorade and such
are used by the ones with money to waste.

Now tell me the difference between the sports drinks and the
rehydration formula, other than price?

Like the good father figure that I am, I'll give you a big hint and let you
google the rest.

People who exercise lose body fluids primarily through the respiratory
system and by sweating.

People with cholera, dysentery, and all those similar lovely tropical
diseases, lose body fluids primarily through the digestive system.

Now, off to Google with you.

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>What about potassium?
>>>>Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?
>>>>
>>>>It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).
>>>
>>> It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is in
>>> the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
>>> potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.
>>
>>Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.
>>
>>The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.
>
> They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
> supposed to do, right?

They're an authority on the rehydration of cholera patients in Third World
countries.

You DO understand the difference between a Third World cholera patient and
that skinny runner with the $150 shoes jogging down your street, right?

Yep. One has lots more money.
The other needs the best rehydration they can get. Gatorade and such
are used by the ones with money to waste.

Now tell me the difference between the sports drinks and the
rehydration formula, other than price?

Like the good father figure that I am, I'll give you a big hint and let you
google the rest.

People who exercise lose body fluids primarily through the respiratory
system and by sweating.

People with cholera, dysentery, and all those similar lovely tropical
diseases, lose body fluids primarily through the digestive system.

Now, off to Google with you.

David

Big difference....
More minerals than just salt involved for a start. :-P
Probably what I was thinking with my comment on Potassium earlier.
I get too used to seeing what has to be done in health care. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>"Cyli" <[email hidden]> wrote
>>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>What about potassium?
>>>>>Shouldn't that be added to sports drinks?
>>>>>
>>>>>It could be added in the form of KCl (salt substitute).
>>>>
>>>> It's in the small amount of baking soda or creme of tartar that is
>>>> in
>>>> the original UNICEF recipe. Creme (or cream) of tartar is mostly
>>>> potassium. A pinch or two will do the job.
>>>
>>>Ah, UNICEF, that authority on sports drinks.
>>>
>>>The Annual Bloated Belly Ethiopian Ultramarathon, next week, on Fox.
>>
>> They're an authority on rehydration. Which is what a sports drink is
>> supposed to do, right?
>
>They're an authority on the rehydration of cholera patients in Third
>World
>countries.
>
>You DO understand the difference between a Third World cholera patient
>and
>that skinny runner with the $150 shoes jogging down your street, right?

Yep. One has lots more money.
The other needs the best rehydration they can get. Gatorade and such
are used by the ones with money to waste.

Now tell me the difference between the sports drinks and the
rehydration formula, other than price?

Like the good father figure that I am, I'll give you a big hint and let
you
google the rest.

People who exercise lose body fluids primarily through the respiratory
system and by sweating.

People with cholera, dysentery, and all those similar lovely tropical
diseases, lose body fluids primarily through the digestive system.

Now, off to Google with you.

Big difference....
More minerals than just salt involved for a start. :-P
Probably what I was thinking with my comment on Potassium earlier.
I get too used to seeing what has to be done in health care. ;-)

Yup. Really sick hospitalized patients =/= Dally running her ass off in a
marathon.

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

RichD said:

The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
die of salt depletion far more often than
dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.

So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
another idea.

Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Why?

Quoted message said:

Recipe suggestions, please...

Kool-Aid. Salt to taste.

From about.com:

. 9 tablespoons table sugar

Table sugar?! You know companies use special techno functional sugars
made from super sources in their products and not this terrible table
sugar you speak of. Shame on you!

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

WillBrink said:

David Cohen said:

"JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"RichD" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>The NY Times ran an article recently, that athletes
>die of salt depletion far more often than
>dehydration. That's news to me. And it's
>exacerbated by overhydrating, without salt.
>
>So I got thinking about a home made sport drink,
>to replenish fluids and salt, presumably more
>economical than Gatorade. What is the correct
>dilution, in teaspoons salt per quart? I recall
>a recommendation of bicarbonate of soda, as
>another idea.
>
>Also, one needs sugar, but I don't like simple
>sugars, perhaps some slow burning carbo? Or
>maybe use half water, half orange juice?

Why?

>Recipe suggestions, please...

Kool-Aid. Salt to taste.

From about.com:

. 9 tablespoons table sugar

Table sugar?! You know companies use special techno functional sugars
made from super sources in their products and not this terrible table
sugar you speak of. Shame on you!

Yeah, I always get a kick out people who wouldn't dare use something
like table sugar in their sports supplementation. I wonder if they
know that 35 grams of sucrose is what Tipton and Wolfe use when they
perform scientific studies of skeletal muscle response to amino acids,
carbohydrates, and resistance exercise.

JMW said:

Yeah, I always get a kick out people who wouldn't dare use something
like table sugar in their sports supplementation. I wonder if they
know that 35 grams of sucrose is what Tipton and Wolfe use when they
perform scientific studies of skeletal muscle response to amino acids,
carbohydrates, and resistance exercise.

BTW, I heard directly from an exercise physiologist that this is standard
practice.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/