Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel with different tension)?
The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished correctly, but the spoke tension is not all that even. Is this just because of the way my rim reacts (maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my wheels built built badly?
Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel with different tension)?
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The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished correctly, but the spoke tension is not all that even. Is this just because of the way my rim reacts (maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my wheels built built badly?
Ideally, all spokes on one side of a rear wheel will have identical tension. Often, the tension at the rim joint will be slightly different. Also, if the rim has been damaged (or was not round to begin with) tension will not be even.
If your rim is good, try loosening the tightest spokes a half turn and then try to bring the wheel back to true by tightening other spokes. Make sure to check for roundness as well as lateral trueness and dish.
If you still can't get reasonably even tension, you probably need a new rim.
Hi. Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel with different tension)? The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished correctly, but the spoke tension is not all that even. Is this just because of the way my rim reacts (maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my wheels built built badly? Thanks for any help, Travers
There is a brief section in "the Bicycle Wheel" that states something close to what Art Harris already said. You need to work the process and consider how the spokes interact. You may need to loosen on spoke by a half turn and others need to be tightened by a 1/4 turn. Also, if when you are done with the spoke tension ballancing, and re-truing, you find the wheel still needs help; you may need to "repair the rim" by backing off the tension and taking out the rim bend that is causing the tension imballance.
My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing?
Thanks,
Travers
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Are there many different combinations of spoke tension for a particular wheel that result in it being true (leterally and radially) and dished correctly (excluding cases where the tension of each spoke is in the same ratio to some other other spoke in a configuration that has been counted already. i.e. I don't want to count just loosening and tightening all the spokes an equivalent amount as a wheel with different tension)?
The reason I ask is that I have my wheels true and dished correctly, but
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spoke tension is not all that even. Is this just because of the way my
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reacts (maybe it's bent?) and I need uneven spoke tension to correct it (rim is American Classic 420), or are my wheels built built badly?
To simplify what I was trying to ask: My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing? Thanks, Travers <SNIP>
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Travers
Yes. It is worth seeing that you can attain both tension balance and true + proper dish. If your spokes are not evenly tensioned they will equalize while you are riding (over time) and the wheel will loose alignment. You will find that the rim joint makes uniformity impossible, but you should be able to balance tension to within 10% with a little effort. Barnetts has 3 methods and procedures to attain balance within 5%. It takes time and effort to follow the mehtods and procedures, however, they do work. If you want the details, find Barnetts Chapter 17 and look at the last half of the chapter.
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To simplify what I was trying to ask:
My wheel is true and properly dished, but spoke tension is not even. Is there a way of evening out the spoke tension without messing up radial/lateral true and dishing?
Maybe. If the rim is not damaged to can make small adjustments to get the tension more even. With two spokes next to each other on the same side of the rims you can loosen one and then tighten the other by the same amount. --------------- Alex
