Spoke repair question

EVSolutions said:

Anyone know a way to tighten spokes (lots of them) without
removing the wheel? I was riding and hit the mother of all
pot holes and 16 of my 36 spokes became very loose and 2
snapped off the hub. Not being anywhere near a bike shop I
continued to ride with some awful wobble and steering
issues...but made it home. Was wondering if there was
anything I could do if (or when) this happens again. My
only thought was to ziptie the loose spokes to the tight
ones and use the bending in the loose ones to make the
spoke more rigid. Any ideas? This was a rear 559mm wheel,
the front 406mm saw no spoke damage at all.

The last sentence contains the important information - I
suggest exclusively riding HPV's with smaller diameter
wheels. [1]

Spoke tension can easily be adjusted with the wheel on the
bicycle (if one has a spoke wrench), and the wheel can be
reasonably trued by using the brakes and/or frame as a guide
to wheel trueness. Broken spokes can also be replaced,
except for those on the drive side of a wheel, which
requires removal of the cassette. (There are temporary
spokes made of aramid fiber that can be used if the tools to
remove the cassette are not readily available.

[1] It is well known that there is inverse relationship
between wheel size and the moral and intellectual
quality of the rider. 😉

--
Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

Thanx Tom I have no rear cassette, I have an older (threaded
free Hub) and I do have a spoke wrench (one of those tools I
never tried using).

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EVSolutions said:

Anyone know a way to tighten spokes (lots of them)
without removing the wheel? I was riding and hit the
mother of all pot holes and 16 of my 36 spokes became
very loose and 2 snapped off the hub. Not being anywhere
near a

bike

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shop I continued to ride with some awful wobble and
steering

issues...but

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made it home. Was wondering if there was anything I
could do if (or

when)

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this happens again. My only thought was to ziptie the
loose spokes to

the

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tight ones and use the bending in the loose ones to make
the spoke more rigid. Any ideas? This was a rear 559mm
wheel, the front 406mm saw no spoke damage at all.

The last sentence contains the important information - I
suggest exclusively riding HPV's with smaller diameter
wheels. [1]

Spoke tension can easily be adjusted with the wheel on the
bicycle (if one has a spoke wrench), and the wheel can be
reasonably trued by using the brakes and/or frame as a
guide to wheel trueness. Broken spokes can also be
replaced, except for those on the drive side of a wheel,
which requires removal of the cassette. (There are
temporary spokes made of aramid fiber that can be used if
the tools to remove the cassette are not readily
available.

[1] It is well known that there is inverse relationship
between wheel size and the moral and intellectual
quality of the rider. 😉

--
Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

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I suggest exclusively riding HPV's with smaller diameter
wheels. [1]

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[1] It is well known that there is inverse relationship
between wheel size and the moral and intellectual
quality of the rider.

Tom

Actually, Freud determined that wheel size is directly
proportional to a man's penis. Which correctly explains why
you are content with a 20" wheel and I am comfortable with
26" and 700 wheels.

Sorry about that! 😉

Perry B

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I suggest exclusively riding HPV's with smaller diameter
wheels. [1]

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[1] It is well known that there is inverse relationship
between wheel size and the moral and intellectual
quality of the rider.

Tom

Actually, Freud determined that wheel size is directly
proportional to a man's penis. Which correctly explains
why you are content with a 20" wheel and I am comfortable
with 26" and 700 wheels.

Sorry about that! 😉

Like bikes, if you never use them, it doesn't matter what
size your wheels are.

--
Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager
clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗
- Bellaire, TX USA -

Perry Butler said:

"Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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Quoted message said:

I suggest exclusively riding HPV's with smaller diameter
wheels. [1]

Quoted message said:

[1] It is well known that there is inverse relationship
between wheel size and the moral and intellectual
quality of the rider.

Tom

Actually, Freud determined that wheel size is directly
proportional to a man's penis. Which correctly explains
why you are content with a 20" wheel and I am comfortable
with 26" and 700 wheels.

That was Dr. Fraud, not Dr. Freud. Get you facts straight.
Large wheels are a compensation for inferior natural
endowment.

What size wheels does Fabrizio Mazzoleni use? Case
closed. 😉

--
Tom Sherman - Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

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Anyone know a way to tighten spokes (lots of them) without
removing the wheel? I was riding and hit the mother of all
pot holes and 16 of my 36 spokes became very loose and 2
snapped off the hub. Not being anywhere near a

bike

Quoted message said:

shop I continued to ride with some awful wobble and
steering issues...but made it home. Was wondering if there
was anything I could do if (or when) this happens again.
My only thought was to ziptie the loose spokes to the
tight ones and use the bending in the loose ones to make
the spoke more rigid. Any ideas? This was a rear 559mm
wheel, the front 406mm saw no spoke damage at all.

Joshua
*****

Joshua,

You might also consider getting a stronger wheel, especially
if you plan on using it for long trips.

Jack

I had a similar event happen about a month ago. I managed to
get the chain to come off into my spokes while zipping
along. I broke three spokes, scarred all the rest (on the
drive side), skidded to a stop, and removed the rubber all
the way down to the kevlar belts.

I removed the broken spokes, and proceeded to adjust the
reminder with my spoke wrench. It took me 15 minutes to make
those adjustments and adjust my brakes so I could continue
on to the office and then home.

A cut off spoke with the threads and a nipple provide
an excellent means of determining which way to twist
to tighten.

The good news about all this was, I have now experienced
wheel building for the first time. I had the LBS check out
my work and they were favorably impressed. I got the tension
correct, the wheel is true, round, properly dished, and I
even lined up the logo on the hub with the valve stem hole.

William Higley, Sr. Vision R-50 RANS Rocket

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Quoted message said:

Anyone know a way to tighten spokes (lots of them) without
removing the wheel? I was riding and hit the mother of all
pot holes and 16 of my 36 spokes became very loose and 2
snapped off the hub. Not being anywhere near a

bike

Quoted message said:

shop I continued to ride with some awful wobble and
steering issues...but made it home. Was wondering if there
was anything I could do if (or when) this happens again.
My only thought was to ziptie the loose spokes to the
tight ones and use the bending in the loose ones to make
the spoke more rigid. Any ideas? This was a rear 559mm
wheel, the front 406mm saw no spoke damage at all.

Joshua
*****