I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? Thanks...
need new washers, we have them...interesting tho, I have used lots of them and have not seen them break, brass..
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I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? Thanks...
If you have a radio control model airplane/car/boat hobby shop (even a model trains hobby shop) nearby, you can get some small washers from them no problem.
On 29 Dec 2006 00:57:26 -0800, "Ron Ruff" <[email hidden]>
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I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
need new washers, we have them...interesting tho, I have used lots of them and have not seen them break, brass..
Maybe part of the same environment that destroys barend shifters in short time. I'm in dry NM now... thankfully. There doesn't seem to be corrosion though, on the washers or hub. I'm guessing that the size mismatch is so large that they bent too far into a cone shape. 2.6mm hole with a 1.8mm spoke...
In what situations do you like to use them, Peter? Would it be a bad idea to go without washers at this point?
Earl Bollinger said:
If you have a radio control model airplane/car/boat hobby shop (even a model trains hobby shop) nearby, you can get some small washers from them no problem.
Good idea... but the nearest one is 85 miles away. I guess a hardware store wouldn't carry anything similar? I basically don't want to wait...
On 29 Dec 2006 00:57:26 -0800, "Ron Ruff" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
I went to replace a rim today, and when I moved the spokes several of the spoke-head washers actually broke in two. Others are obviously split. In case you don't know what they are, they are tiny brass washers (made by DT) that go between the head of the spoke and the hub, supposedly for the purpose of improving the fit. I'm using 1.8mm spokes in a hub with large holes, so I thought it was a good idea.
Is this normal? I'm a little bit bummed because I don't have any extra wheels, nor little washers to replace the broken ones. The spokes are formed with the washers in place and the fit is not so good if I don't use them. So I either wait until I can get new ones, or go with out...
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? Thanks...
cold worked brass is well known for stress corrosion cracks - and that's the kind of washer you have here. what are you using for cleaning?
the kind of washer you have here. what are you using for cleaning?
Uh... cleaning...? Hmmm... I guess Dawn and water, back when I used to ride in the rain a lot... in Hawaii.
BTW, the spokes on either side of the flange were easy to identify by the elbow bends. I went ahead and rebuilt them without the washers... now I'll see how well the spokes like being bent to a new configuration. They went for ~10k miles with no breaks and no truing on the old build (WS AE15s).
I increased the tension a little... ~115kg +- 20kg. The variation seemed necessary to get rid of the distortion at the joint and make it true. Hopefully the tension is not too high for an Aerohead. Once I get a tire on it will drop a bit...
Those Aerohead rims are light! Only 411g for the non-OC... 98g lighter than the CXP21 it replaced.
