spoke head punch?

they work well. If a spoke head ain't sitting nice against the flange,
a wee tap with the punch and bam-bam makes it better.
--Jim

"Graviora quaedam sunt remedia periculis." - Syrus

Quoted message said:

a bike tools catalog came in the mail and amung the several hehehe
tools to make me faster, more coherent, and effective, including a
positive lock valve head,and better looking after that one, there was
the SPOKE HEAD PUNCH.
The old pipe's rear hub's spoke holes are always wearing. I file before
inserting new spokes but here is another approach: banging on the spoke
heads to fit the spoke into the hub.

any comments on various uses of this tool?

The thread below discussed it:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=fogel+snuffling+wheel-building&qt_s=Search+Groups

I do a fair amount of wheel work and have never found myself wanting
for one.

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John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
http://www.businesscycles.com
Since 1983
Our catalog of track equipment: online since 1996
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Quoted message said:

"Graviora quaedam sunt remedia periculis." - Syrus

Quoted message said:

a bike tools catalog came in the mail and amung the several hehehe
tools to make me faster, more coherent, and effective, including a
positive lock valve head,and better looking after that one, there was
the SPOKE HEAD PUNCH.
The old pipe's rear hub's spoke holes are always wearing. I file before
inserting new spokes but here is another approach: banging on the spoke
heads to fit the spoke into the hub.
any comments on various uses of this tool?

John Dacey said:

The thread below discussed it:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=fogel+snuffling+wheel-building&qt_s=Search+Groups
I do a fair amount of wheel work and have never found myself wanting
for one.

Ditto.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In article <[email hidden]>,
Meccanico di Bici <[email hidden]> says...

Quoted message said:

they work well. If a spoke head ain't sitting nice against the flange,
a wee tap with the punch and bam-bam makes it better.

I use a normal, everyday pin punch. I just dig one of appropriate size
out of my non-bike tool box. The DT spoke head punch has a concave
treatment on the business end. They are, therefore less prone to
slipping off the spoke head and damaging the hub.

--
Greg Estep

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Meccanico di Bici <[email hidden]> says...

Quoted message said:

they work well. If a spoke head ain't sitting nice against the flange,
a wee tap with the punch and bam-bam makes it better.

Greg Estep said:

I use a normal, everyday pin punch. I just dig one of appropriate size
out of my non-bike tool box. The DT spoke head punch has a concave
treatment on the business end. They are, therefore less prone to
slipping off the spoke head and damaging the hub.

Just curious. Can you recall a specific hub/spoke where a
good hard squeeze and maybe a little coaxing didn't pull the
spokes properly into the flange? I build a lot of Campagnolo
and Phil, a lot of Suzue and a little Shimano with Asahi,
Sapim, Wheelsmith, DT all 14 butted and never ran across
that problem.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In article <[email hidden]>, A Muzi
<[email hidden]> says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Meccanico di Bici <[email hidden]> says...

Quoted message said:

they work well. If a spoke head ain't sitting nice against the flange,
a wee tap with the punch and bam-bam makes it better.

Greg Estep said:

I use a normal, everyday pin punch. I just dig one of appropriate size
out of my non-bike tool box. The DT spoke head punch has a concave
treatment on the business end. They are, therefore less prone to
slipping off the spoke head and damaging the hub.

Just curious. Can you recall a specific hub/spoke where a
good hard squeeze and maybe a little coaxing didn't pull the
spokes properly into the flange? I build a lot of Campagnolo
and Phil, a lot of Suzue and a little Shimano with Asahi,
Sapim, Wheelsmith, DT all 14 butted and never ran across
that problem.

I can recall one such "problem" spoke. However, I don't recall any of
the specific parts that were involved. It wasn't sitting well in the
flange after the wheel had been through a couple of rounds of tension-
squeeze-true. The other spokes I've whacked were fairly early on in my
wheel building adventures, when it was just one of those things that
seemed like a good idea at the time.

--
Greg Estep

"Can you recall a specific hub/spoke where a..."
a worn hub with elongated holes?
does squeezing and tightening completely seat worn hole spokes?

one whack with the tool beats several hundred tightenings and
loosenings under load-
but seems the tool is meant only for the spoke head side not the spoke
side

"Praevalent illicita." - Tacitus

Quoted message said:

"Can you recall a specific hub/spoke where a..."
a worn hub with elongated holes?
does squeezing and tightening completely seat worn hole spokes?

one whack with the tool beats several hundred tightenings and
loosenings under load-
but seems the tool is meant only for the spoke head side not the spoke
side

Apart from whatever recreational satisfaction is derived by whacking
something with a mallet, I don't think the spoke head punch offers
much.

If a spoke head doesn't seat well in its designated hole in the hub
flange after the manipulations detailed by Andy Muzi, that spoke
should be removed (and replaced if necessary) to make sure its elbow
hadn't become malformed from either original manufacture or artless
lacing. Lashing out at it with a punch and hammer is punitive but not
remedial.
-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Comprehensive catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
http://www.businesscycles.com

Quoted message said:

a bike tools catalog came in the mail and amung the several hehehe
tools to make me faster, more coherent, and effective, including a
positive lock valve head,and better looking after that one, there was
the SPOKE HEAD PUNCH.
The old pipe's rear hub's spoke holes are always wearing. I file before
inserting new spokes but here is another approach: banging on the spoke
heads to fit the spoke into the hub.

any comments on various uses of this tool?

See
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/21695c46f41a607a>.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

Andy Muzi

Quoted message said:

Just curious. Can you recall a specific hub/spoke where a good hard
squeeze and maybe a little coaxing didn't pull the spokes properly into
the flange? I build a lot of Campagnolo and Phil, a lot of Suzue and a
little Shimano with Asahi, Sapim, Wheelsmith, DT all 14 butted and never
ran across that problem.

I just did a DA and a Chorus where the punch was needed. Not on all of
the heads but a few to get the head flush.