VeloJon wrote: > I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- > cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with > fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light > racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity > Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without > pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be > reasonable? of course. look at the spoke counts on mavic cosmos wheels, mavic ksyrium wheels, shimano wheels, etc. avoid super-skinny spokes and all will be well. do not over-tension.
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But also look at the weights of these rims. Not Aerohead light..no such thing as a free lunch.
dude, the mavic cosmos rim is just like the open pro. it's 24 spoke. it handles my lardy ass no problem. thank you.
dude, compared to an Aerohead the ones mentioned are all heavier...
On Aug 6, 8:56 pm, jim beam <[email hidden]> wrote: > VeloJon wrote: >> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- >> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with >> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light >> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity >> Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without >> pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be >> reasonable? > of course. look at the spoke counts on mavic cosmos wheels, mavic > ksyrium wheels, shimano wheels, etc. avoid super-skinny spokes and all > will be well. do not over-tension. But also look at the weights of these rims. Not Aerohead light..no such thing as a free lunch.
dude, the mavic cosmos rim is just like the open pro. it's 24 spoke. it handles my lardy ass no problem. thank you.
dude, compared to an Aerohead the ones mentioned are all heavier...
> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: >> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- >> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with >> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light >> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity >> Aerohead landotter wrote: > Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V > can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts > will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes > a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and > 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress.
Gee - we built both orange and green fixie Deep V wheels for a customer in Atlanta.
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We did some pink, white and even a brown set...circus bikes indeed..the new 'cruiser'...
Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.
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> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: >> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- >> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with >> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light >> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity >> Aerohead landotter wrote: > Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V > can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts > will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes > a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and > 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress.
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>> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- >>> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with >>> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light >>> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity >>> Aerohead > landotter wrote: >> Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V >> can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts >> will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes >> a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and >> 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress. Paul Myron Hobson wrote: > While this is all well and good, I can't help but have a strong distaste > for DeepV's now that clown bikes are just about ubiquitous in Atlanta: >http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1014320740_cbab4bf261_o.jpg
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Gee - we built both orange and green fixie Deep V wheels for a customer in Atlanta.
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I wonder?
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-- Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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We did some pink, white and even a brown set...circus bikes indeed..the new 'cruiser'...
Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.-
On Aug 7, 7:22 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
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> >> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- > >>> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with > >>> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light > >>> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity > >>> Aerohead > > landotter wrote: > >> Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V > >> can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts > >> will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes > >> a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and > >> 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress. > Paul Myron Hobson wrote: > > While this is all well and good, I can't help but have a strong distaste > > for DeepV's now that clown bikes are just about ubiquitous in Atlanta: > >http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1014320740_cbab4bf261_o.jpg
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> Gee - we built both orange and green fixie Deep V wheels for a customer > in Atlanta.
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We did some pink, white and even a brown set...circus bikes indeed..the new 'cruiser'...
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Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.-
Should they call the bike 'Midnight Cowboy'? ;-)
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?...Leather fringe top tube pad for the deluxe "Voight" model.
In article <[email hidden]>, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" > > Paul Myron Hobson wrote: > > > While this is all well and good, I can't help but have a strong distaste > > > for DeepV's now that clown bikes are just about ubiquitous in Atlanta: > > >http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1014320740_cbab4bf261_o.jpg
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> > Gee - we built both orange and green fixie Deep V wheels for a customer > > in Atlanta.
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> We did some pink, white and even a brown set...circus bikes > indeed..the new 'cruiser'...
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Now we know that contrary to appearances the wheels will last.
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They're still incomplete without organ music and a monkey
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> > >> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- > > >>> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with > > >>> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light > > >>> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity > > >>> Aerohead > > > landotter wrote: > > >> Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V > > >> can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts > > >> will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes > > >> a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and > > >> 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress. > > Paul Myron Hobson wrote: > > > While this is all well and good, I can't help but have a strong distaste > > > for DeepV's now that clown bikes are just about ubiquitous in Atlanta: > > >http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1014320740_cbab4bf261_o.jpg
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> > Gee - we built both orange and green fixie Deep V wheels for a customer > > in Atlanta.
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> We did some pink, white and even a brown set...circus bikes > indeed..the new 'cruiser'...
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Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.-
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Should they call the bike 'Midnight Cowboy'? ;-)
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?...Leather fringe top tube pad for the deluxe "Voight" model.-
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> > >> On Aug 6, 10:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>> I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- > > >>> cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with > > >>> fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light > > >>> racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity > > >>> Aerohead > > > landotter wrote: > > >> Haven't seen the Aerohead drilled fewer than 28, however the Deep-V > > >> can go as low as 16! Deep Vs with 24 rear and 18 Front or therebouts > > >> will look flashy enough to impress at the coffeeshop. Alex also makes > > >> a Deep section rim for very little money, the D-28. $35 and > > >> 16,20,24,28 or 32 drillings. Only black, so no funky colors to impress. > > Paul Myron Hobson wrote: > > > While this is all well and good, I can't help but have a strong distaste > > > for DeepV's now that clown bikes are just about ubiquitous in Atlanta: > > >http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/1014320740_cbab4bf261_o.jpg
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Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.-
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Should they call the bike 'Midnight Cowboy'? ;-)
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?...Leather fringe top tube pad for the deluxe "Voight" model.
I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be reasonable?
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Sure..I have done that for special event wheels on a guy about your weight. if true 'bladed, may have to slot the hubs.
I used 24-2 cross fron, Revolution spokes on a DT hub and Velocity Aerohead rim. Rear was 28-3 cross, DT hub, 14/15 right side and Revolutions left side...on a Velocity Aerohead OC rim. Weighed about 1475 grams..about $750. If you are going to use oval spokes, like Aerospeeds from DT, remember these are really thin and may not be OK for the right side rear..OK for the front and left side rear tho. Pricey too..
Do you believe aero spokes on a rear wheel, behind turbulence of legs and bike, do anything much? -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
while not in the act of acquiring exotic cycle parts, my recent purchase of 2! $11 triple cranksets and a $15 rear deray notwithstanding, I savor the occasional viewing of $600 wheelsets insitu.
They wait. they pose. they puff. I say. wow. lookit that. I count uno dos tres....whatzit? whatever they're doin', boulevard, serious mitty workouts, GP fanatsy, I never find, asking questions of it, a hands on this is an owner built and/or maintained wheelset! butbutbut when I spoke of it with the LBS, the LBS slaps his head and sez ah Madrone or MF or ...
I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be reasonable?
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Sure..I have done that for special event wheels on a guy about your weight. if true 'bladed, may have to slot the hubs.
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I used 24-2 cross fron, Revolution spokes on a DT hub and Velocity Aerohead rim. Rear was 28-3 cross, DT hub, 14/15 right side and Revolutions left side...on a Velocity Aerohead OC rim. Weighed about 1475 grams..about $750. If you are going to use oval spokes, like Aerospeeds from DT, remember these are really thin and may not be OK for the right side rear..OK for the front and left side rear tho. Pricey too..
Do you believe aero spokes on a rear wheel, behind turbulence of legs and bike, do anything much? -- Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
sure! creates less turbulence. in fact, ifn yawl cycle in sidewinds then the spokes are mounted...
Setting up a bike with a bar saddle relationship that puts your ass up in the air like a horny baboon should prove to be an effective way to "cruise" some parts of town, for sure.
The only thing the people behind me see is the back of my head (or my Magic Foam Hat [TM] when I choose to wear it). 🙂
It does take some getting used to to ride in a group when you can not tell when the riders in front are pedaling or not.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be reasonable?
Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
Sure..I have done that for special event wheels on a guy about your weight. if true 'bladed, may have to slot the hubs.
I used 24-2 cross fron, Revolution spokes on a DT hub and Velocity Aerohead rim. Rear was 28-3 cross, DT hub, 14/15 right side and Revolutions left side...on a Velocity Aerohead OC rim. Weighed about 1475 grams..about $750. If you are going to use oval spokes, like Aerospeeds from DT, remember these are really thin and may not be OK for the right side rear..OK for the front and left side rear tho. Pricey too..
Do you believe aero spokes on a rear wheel, behind turbulence of legs and bike, do anything much?
Heck, just buy a cheap roll of clear packing tape and cover the spokes to make a disc wheel!
I once road with a guy who did exactly that.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
On Aug 6, 9:23 am, VeloJon <[email hidden]> wrote: > I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- > cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with > fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light > racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity > Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without > pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be > reasonable?
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Sure..I have done that for special event wheels on a guy about your weight. if true 'bladed, may have to slot the hubs.
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I used 24-2 cross fron, Revolution spokes on a DT hub and Velocity Aerohead rim. Rear was 28-3 cross, DT hub, 14/15 right side and Revolutions left side...on a Velocity Aerohead OC rim. Weighed about 1475 grams..about $750. If you are going to use oval spokes, like Aerospeeds from DT, remember these are really thin and may not be OK for the right side rear..OK for the front and left side rear tho. Pricey too..
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Do you believe aero spokes on a rear wheel, behind turbulence of legs and bike, do anything much?
Heck, just buy a cheap roll of clear packing tape and cover the spokes to make a disc wheel!
I once road with a guy who did exactly that.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
I've built several sets of "traditional" road wheels, e.g. 32-spoke 3- cross patterns that have held up well. Now I want to try a set with fewer spokes using bladed spokes, and not looking for super-light racing use, just some extra bling. With a basic rim like a Velocity Aerohead or Mavic OP, what is the lowest spoke count I can use without pushing the envelope? I am 150 lbs. Would 24 front/ 28 rear be reasonable?
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Sure..I have done that for special event wheels on a guy about your weight. if true 'bladed, may have to slot the hubs.
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I used 24-2 cross fron, Revolution spokes on a DT hub and Velocity Aerohead rim. Rear was 28-3 cross, DT hub, 14/15 right side and Revolutions left side...on a Velocity Aerohead OC rim. Weighed about 1475 grams..about $750. If you are going to use oval spokes, like Aerospeeds from DT, remember these are really thin and may not be OK for the right side rear..OK for the front and left side rear tho. Pricey too..
Do you believe aero spokes on a rear wheel, behind turbulence of legs and bike, do anything much? -- Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
No of course not but the guy was asking about bladed type spokes and ovals for non slotted hubs. I haven't built but maybe 2 or 3 rear wheels with bladed spokes this year. Never with oval. Too expensive, too thin, for what ya get.
