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Splines vs. square tapers.

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  1. After not using my muni for a while (I've been using the 29-
    er and also had 125s on the muni to use it as a street
    machine) I put the 150 cranks back on and went for a ride.

    I thought I may as well use it as a muni for once, and rode
    into the 'Ponderosa', a stretch of land that is mainly left
    to its own devices, with some rough trails and steep
    gradients.

    Within ten minutes the handle felt loose and it turned out
    I'd snapped the seat base. About to ride it home I
    discovered the left crank had also come loose, so, for the
    first time ever, I had to wheel it home.

    On the way I started to wonder if my faithfulold Nimbus was
    reaching the end of its days, and what would be its replacement-
    another Nimbus or maybe the splined KH or Onza?

    I've always been very happy with the Nimbus, and with its
    non splined cranks, but there seems to an assumption that,
    if you're serious about muni, then a splined hub is the
    way to go.

    However, having done a few thread searches, I wonder if that
    is true. I think I saw a reply by Roger Davies where he said
    he uses square taper hubs, and that splines are unnecessary
    if you're not doing big drops.

    Also, looking at splined models, the crank length options
    for muni seem to be 165-170mm only. As someone who uses 150s
    and who finds 170s to be uncomfortable and slow (admittedly
    I've only had brief goes on them) I find that a bit
    restrictive.

    Also, the cranks themselves are consideraby more expensive
    than non splined ones (by a factor of 4).

    One thing I dislike about square tapers is the messing
    around involved in changing them i.e. grease, hammering etc;
    but, from some posts I've seen, splined ones seem
    troublesome to remove as well.

    I've fixed my Nimbus by fitting the Reeder handle to an old
    seat, and the crank looseness was probably cos of the recent
    switch, having tightened it up Ihad a long ride and it's
    fine again.

    However, at some point I'll have to get a new muni; whilst
    the KH looks nice and it'd be good to have the latest kit, I
    suspect that I'd get a Nimbus because I've found it to be
    reliable and a great muni, I also have the tools and
    knowledge of how to maintain it. I also think it unlikely
    that I'll be doing high drops.

    Here's some questions on splined hubs/cranks.

    1. Is there any point to them if you're not going to do
    long drops
    2. Any ideas about what will happen in the future eg will
    square taper hubs vanish like cottered cranks did, or, if
    munis popularity drops, will splined cranks dissapear
    3. Why no 150mm splined cranks
    4. Any other thoughts on splined/square taper hubs/cranks

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    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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  2. I would also like to hear from people who've managed to
    break a Suzue or any other hardened non-splined hub, in
    particular the length of use and the sort of punishment it
    was subjected to. Thank you.

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  3. Dave- I have 170 profiles and i would never go any shorter.
    Sure i get passed up in the flats but the torque on steep
    uphills and steep rock faces is priceless!

    BTW, there are 150 profiles.

    hole-in-my-shoe said:

    *I would also like to hear from people who've managed to
    break a Suzue or any other hardened non-splined hub, in
    particular the length of use and the sort of punishment it
    was subjected to. Thank you. *

    Do Suzues count as hardened hubs? I've wrecked my share. I
    went through a hub (suzue) and a hand full of cranks on my
    United/monty trials. Back when i was using the monty i wasnt
    good at rolling out of drops so anything bigger than a 3
    foot drop would usually mess something up.

    I also had a shwinn muni that i cracked the suzue hub on
    while going down some rocks.

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    mango - unity - as 1 stand together
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