Speed Limits

davek said:

Ian Smith said:

Dartford Bridge?

50mph limit, and it has non-Motorway access - no cycling on the bridge
itself, but you can ride to and from the bridge. Not sure about
pedestrian access.

Pedestrians get the same treatment as bikes. You get taken across on a
shuttle service.

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davek said:

Ian Smith said:

Dartford Bridge?

50mph limit, and it has non-Motorway access - no cycling on the bridge
itself, but you can ride to and from the bridge. Not sure about
pedestrian access.

Yes, so it's exactly what I said it is - an A road not in a tunnel and
without pedestrian or cyclist access. You can't access the bridge as
a pedestrian or a cyclist.

I said nothing about speed limit. The comment I responded to said
nothing about speed limit.

Why so many objections to my statement? My statement is true.

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith said:

I said nothing about speed limit. The comment I responded to said
nothing about speed limit.

That was me, and I was responding to a post which did mention a speed limit.

Quoted message said:

Why so many objections to my statement? My statement is true.

See above. I don't think anyone was objecting or saying your comments
weren't true, just seeing if the Dartford bridge fitted all the criteria
referred to by the OP.

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JimP

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Jim Price said:

Ian Smith said:

I said nothing about speed limit. The comment I responded to said
nothing about speed limit.

That was me, and I was responding to a post which did mention a speed
limit.

I thought you said "I can't think of any other public A roads where
there isn't pedestrian or cycle access." I was suggesting one.

Thinking some more, I think some of Edinburgh bypass also bans
bicycles, but it's also at least a 50mph limit.

Possibly more relevant - the Edinburgh West Approach Road bans bikes,
and I think some of that is 40mph. It's technically an unclassified
road, however (though it looks like an A-road).

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith said:

Jim Price said:

Ian Smith said:

I said nothing about speed limit. The comment I responded to said
nothing about speed limit.

That was me, and I was responding to a post which did mention a speed
limit.

I thought you said "I can't think of any other public A roads where
there isn't pedestrian or cycle access."

Yes I did, so what makes you think I meant "I can't think of any other
public A roads where there isn't pedestrian or cycle access /with any
speed limit/." given that:
1. I didn't say that.
and
2. It is clearly a comment on this from the quoted part of my post:
"We do have some limits on A-roads, where there isn't pedestrian or
cycle access, where the limit is 40mph, whereas in other cases they
would be 60mph."

Now guess which speed limits I might have had in mind as the default
ones in my comment on the above in which I didn't mention speed limits.

Quoted message said:

I was suggesting one.

And I appreciated the suggestion enough to make the effort to find out
what the speed limit was from the horses mouth. Turns out you knew anyway...

Looks like a bit of misunderstanderating as Dubya might say 😉

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JimP

Is there anything else I haven't said you'd like to argue with?

Jim Price said:

Yes I did, so what makes you think I meant "I can't think of any other
public A roads where there isn't pedestrian or cycle access /with any
speed limit/." given that:

Well, it seems reasonable. If I say "I can't think of any town with
three railway stations", it would not seem to me to be a reasonable
interpretation to assume I meant "I can't think of a town with three
railway stations and a fireworks factory".

That is, if you've specified one set of conditions, why would I add
other conditions you hadn't mentioned? I assumed that if you wanted
to limit it to specific speed limits you'd have mentioned them.

As noted, I've still not thought of a 40mph-limit
no-cyclists-or-pedestrians A-road, though I can cite examples of any
two of teh three conditions.

(FWIW, Dorking has three railway stations, but I don't think it has a
fireworks factory.)

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith said:

Jim Price said:

Yes I did, so what makes you think I meant "I can't think of any other
public A roads where there isn't pedestrian or cycle access /with any
speed limit/."

Quoted message said:

If I say "I can't think of any town with
three railway stations", it would not seem to me to be a reasonable
interpretation to assume I meant "I can't think of a town with three
railway stations and a fireworks factory".

If that's unreasonable then don't assume I meant "with any speed limit",
because by your definition that would be unreasonable too.

Quoted message said:

That is, if you've specified one set of conditions, why would I add
other conditions you hadn't mentioned?

Why would you assume I dropped previously mentioned conditions without
saying so?

Quoted message said:

I assumed that if you wanted
to limit it to specific speed limits you'd have mentioned them.

Well, I did quote them. Would you prefer I rewrote them in words of my
own instead? That would just cause even more exchanges like this on
usenet 😉
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JimP

Knee dye same ore.