Speed Cameras - Here We Go Again

Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗ 0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her part
the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD representative who
retorted with a rather weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Regards,

-david

Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗ 0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her part
the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD representative who
retorted with a rather weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Regards,

-david

Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗ 0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her part
the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD representative who
retorted with a rather weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Regards,

-david

Robert Bruce said:

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

ABD == a bunch of right-wing petrolheads who were formed around the time that speed cameras first
became popular. Kindred spirits to P*** S****.

Robert Bruce said:

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

ABD == a bunch of right-wing petrolheads who were formed around the time that speed cameras first
became popular. Kindred spirits to P*** S****.

Robert Bruce said:

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be using P**l S***h's
"""""""research"""""" in order to complain about infringements to their right to drive
dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against a representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out
of her depth.

ABD == a bunch of right-wing petrolheads who were formed around the time that speed cameras first
became popular. Kindred spirits to P*** S****.

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Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be

using

Yes, they got theirselves on "dispatches" too- pointed out their "worse GATSO in britain" and the
road engineer gave several good reasons why it was there. They also have an analysis of global
warming that'd get low marks for a primary school kid.

OTOH They have members unlike "safe speed".

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P**l S***h's """""""research"""""" in order to complain about

infringements

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to their right to drive dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her
part the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD
representative who retorted with a

rather

Quoted message said:

weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Yes, where we used to get the BSE/SARS/AIDS comes from outer space loon.

In article <[email hidden]>, David Nutter

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Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

It was appalling. That sort of Blair-babe, tears-in-my-eyes, ``you're all so stupid it makes me want
to cry'' thing may play well in the tabloids, but sounds hopeless on Radio 4 at a quarter to seven
in the morning. When she was reduced to ``Tell that to the family of...'' I switched off. The ABD
guy was talking the usual self-serving stuff you'd expect, but he know how to present for the
audience he had. Sure to God campaigning charities realise the importance of presentation? If not,
what are they doing on a slot on Today?

ian

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Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be

using

Yes, they got theirselves on "dispatches" too- pointed out their "worse GATSO in britain" and the
road engineer gave several good reasons why it was there. They also have an analysis of global
warming that'd get low marks for a primary school kid.

OTOH They have members unlike "safe speed".

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

P**l S***h's """""""research"""""" in order to complain about

infringements

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to their right to drive dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her
part the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD
representative who retorted with a

rather

Quoted message said:

weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Yes, where we used to get the BSE/SARS/AIDS comes from outer space loon.

David Nutter said:

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position

Even getting him to accept the need for speed cameras it would seem. Smith is probably beating him
with birch twigs as we type and read.

Colin
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In article <[email hidden]>, David Nutter

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Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

It was appalling. That sort of Blair-babe, tears-in-my-eyes, ``you're all so stupid it makes me want
to cry'' thing may play well in the tabloids, but sounds hopeless on Radio 4 at a quarter to seven
in the morning. When she was reduced to ``Tell that to the family of...'' I switched off. The ABD
guy was talking the usual self-serving stuff you'd expect, but he know how to present for the
audience he had. Sure to God campaigning charities realise the importance of presentation? If not,
what are they doing on a slot on Today?

ian

David Nutter said:

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position

Even getting him to accept the need for speed cameras it would seem. Smith is probably beating him
with birch twigs as we type and read.

Colin
--

"David Nutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Robert Bruce said:

From this morning's Today programme.

bbc.co.uktoday1 mcarthur christie 2Open ↗

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

0031205.ram

Something called The Association of British Drivers now appears to be

using

Yes, they got theirselves on "dispatches" too- pointed out their "worse GATSO in britain" and the
road engineer gave several good reasons why it was there. They also have an analysis of global
warming that'd get low marks for a primary school kid.

OTOH They have members unlike "safe speed".

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

P**l S***h's """""""research"""""" in order to complain about

infringements

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to their right to drive dangerously. Unfortunately, they were up against

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

representative of BRAKE who seemed totally out of her depth.

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position and for her
part the BRAKE representative produced some figures that couldn't be denied by the ABD
representative who retorted with a

rather

Quoted message said:

weak "It's all in the interpretation" style comment.

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

All in all, a rather fun Controversy Slot.

Yes, where we used to get the BSE/SARS/AIDS comes from outer space loon.

In article <[email hidden]>, David Nutter

Quoted message said:

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

It was appalling. That sort of Blair-babe, tears-in-my-eyes, ``you're all so stupid it makes me want
to cry'' thing may play well in the tabloids, but sounds hopeless on Radio 4 at a quarter to seven
in the morning. When she was reduced to ``Tell that to the family of...'' I switched off. The ABD
guy was talking the usual self-serving stuff you'd expect, but he know how to present for the
audience he had. Sure to God campaigning charities realise the importance of presentation? If not,
what are they doing on a slot on Today?

ian

David Nutter said:

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position

Even getting him to accept the need for speed cameras it would seem. Smith is probably beating him
with birch twigs as we type and read.

Colin
--

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In article <[email hidden]>, David Nutter

Quoted message said:

Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

It was appalling. That sort of Blair-babe, tears-in-my-eyes, ``you're all so stupid it makes me
want to cry'' thing may play well in the tabloids, but sounds hopeless on Radio 4 at a quarter to
seven in the morning. When she was reduced to ``Tell that to the family of...'' I switched off.
The ABD guy was talking the usual self-serving stuff you'd expect, but he know how to present for
the audience he had. Sure to God campaigning charities realise the importance of presentation? If
not, what are they doing on a slot on Today?

ian

I think she landed her punches. Even if her method doesn't appeal to everyone it will appeal to
many. Not everyone appearing on 'Today' needs to be a gladiator and slay their opponent. Humphries
and Naughtie provide enough of that sort of entertainment for my morning.
___
Michael MacClancy

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David Nutter said:

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position

Even getting him to accept the need for speed cameras it would seem. Smith is probably beating him
with birch twigs as we type and read.

They should beat each other PS stated: "of course speed kills"

"Ian G Batten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>, David Nutter

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Didn't think much of her "Think Of The Children" speech though...

It was appalling. That sort of Blair-babe, tears-in-my-eyes, ``you're all so stupid it makes me
want to cry'' thing may play well in the tabloids, but sounds hopeless on Radio 4 at a quarter to
seven in the morning. When she was reduced to ``Tell that to the family of...'' I switched off.
The ABD guy was talking the usual self-serving stuff you'd expect, but he know how to present for
the audience he had. Sure to God campaigning charities realise the importance of presentation? If
not, what are they doing on a slot on Today?

ian

I think she landed her punches. Even if her method doesn't appeal to everyone it will appeal to
many. Not everyone appearing on 'Today' needs to be a gladiator and slay their opponent. Humphries
and Naughtie provide enough of that sort of entertainment for my morning.
___
Michael MacClancy

"Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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David Nutter said:

Jim Naughtie seemed to be rather unsympathetic to the ABD's "self-serving" position

Even getting him to accept the need for speed cameras it would seem. Smith is probably beating him
with birch twigs as we type and read.

They should beat each other PS stated: "of course speed kills"