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  1. I'm watching some excerpts from the 1988 tour and on one stage I was amazed
    (if naive) to see on one mountain stage (Alpe d' Huez?) where the road was
    so crowded with people that the motorcycles couldn't even stay ahead of the
    bikers, and in trying to part the crowd, a group of four riders actually
    had to slow and coast. One of the officials(?) on the back of one of the
    motorcycles had to signal something to the riders, can't tell what, but it
    appears to slow down (!). (The vid was from Netherlands and thus not in
    English).

    That's gotta be majorly frustrating - or is it not uncommon?

    In an adjacent clip one guy goes out and slaps a rider in the butt. Amazing
    how the riders don't seem distracted by this [censored]; pardon my french. ;-p

    -B

  2. Quoted message said:

    I'm watching some excerpts from the 1988 tour and on one stage I was


    amazed

    Quoted message said:

    (if naive) to see on one mountain stage (Alpe d' Huez?) where the road was
    so crowded with people that the motorcycles couldn't even stay ahead of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    bikers, and in trying to part the crowd, a group of four riders actually
    had to slow and coast. One of the officials(?) on the back of one of the
    motorcycles had to signal something to the riders, can't tell what, but it
    appears to slow down (!). (The vid was from Netherlands and thus not in
    English).

    That's gotta be majorly frustrating - or is it not uncommon?

    In an adjacent clip one guy goes out and slaps a rider in the butt.


    Amazing

    Quoted message said:

    how the riders don't seem distracted by this [censored]; pardon my french. ;-p

    Crowd-control is a major issue on the mountain climbs, particularly the
    final climb when the finish is on top. The Pyrenees are actually known for
    crazier crowd behavior than the Alps, although there is so much concern
    regarding the TT up Alpe d'Huez this year that they're making an effort to
    control the number of people on the hill by limiting access to the entire
    region (basically closing off roads to not only cars but cyclists as well,
    very early in the morning).

    They do have crowd control down almost to an art though. There's a definite
    sequence that involves some cars moving through at high speed a couple
    minutes ahead of the riders, then a few motorcycles and then, just ahead of
    the riders, some "sweeper" motorcycles that drive a very precise route
    fairly close to the edge of the road, moving people out of the way. They do
    *not* move out of the way of the crowd; rather, the crowd *must* move out of
    their way... or else. If taking photos, one must be very careful not to be
    leaning out too far when they come through... I was trying to get a
    low-angle shot once, and I don't think there was more than a couple inches
    between the motorcycle and my head.

    If you'd like to know what it's *really* like to see the TDF on a mountain,
    check out this link on our website- www.ChainReaction.com/tdfwatching.htm

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I'm watching some excerpts from the 1988 tour and on one stage I was


    amazed

    Quoted message said:

    (if naive) to see on one mountain stage (Alpe d' Huez?) where the road was
    so crowded with people that the motorcycles couldn't even stay ahead of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    bikers, and in trying to part the crowd, a group of four riders actually
    had to slow and coast. One of the officials(?) on the back of one of the
    motorcycles had to signal something to the riders, can't tell what, but it
    appears to slow down (!). (The vid was from Netherlands and thus not in
    English).

    That's gotta be majorly frustrating - or is it not uncommon?

    In an adjacent clip one guy goes out and slaps a rider in the butt.


    Amazing

    Quoted message said:

    how the riders don't seem distracted by this [censored]; pardon my french. ;-p

    -B

  3. hell someone in the crowd waving a hat caught Lance's handlebar and caused him
    to fall. they should have been run over by the bike (G)

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    Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
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  4. Steve Knight said:

    hell someone in the crowd waving a hat caught Lance's handlebar and caused him
    to fall. they should have been run over by the bike (G)

    OMG, you don't mean today? If it's what I think you mean, it was some old
    lady's handbag strap, according to what I read....

    You wouldn't believe the kinds of things that happen, though. Just looking
    at the footage that one poster suggested from the binary groups it was hard
    to watch. They had a 'greatest crash footage' montage from some stages back
    in the 80s. People just running out into the road and stuff, one guy
    expecting the biker to ride around him apparently, but the guy (duh) riding
    was concentrating on his finishing sprint.

    -B
    please say it wasn't today! (I missed the end of the stage to go ride)

  5. Badger said:

    please say it wasn't today! (I missed the end of the stage to go ride)

    I'm pretty sure Steve was talking about the 2003 musette bag
    incident. (That just can't happen ever again. No way.)

    --Karen M.

  6. Badger said:

    please say it wasn't today! (I missed the end of the stage to go ride)

    I'm pretty sure Steve was talking about the 2003 musette bag
    incident. (That just can't happen ever again. No way.)

    --Karen M.

  7. (Karen M.) said:
    Badger said:

    please say it wasn't today! (I missed the end of the stage to go ride)

    I'm pretty sure Steve was talking about the 2003 musette bag
    incident. (That just can't happen ever again. No way.)

    --Karen M.

    Whew. Today's race had a lot of crashes. Listening to it over the streaming
    feed was like watching ice skaters (which I can't do). Makes me nervous. I
    hadn't followed a tour as I'm doing this year, but in reviewing the clips
    from previous years and then today's crash of two of the US riders it
    apparently happens a lot.

    One of the sprint finishes I was watching from the 80s (88?) one of the
    riders started to lose it but then managed to save it by putting out both
    feet like an outrigger, and managed to stay up.

    Of course there's the famous one from the 50s, where the guy went over a
    200 foot cliff. They showed him being interviewed in front of a plaque that
    they put on the side of the cliff for him. (Forget the specifics, and his
    name - maybe someone remembers).

    I've seen a clip of Lance's famous ride through the fields in one race
    where he jumps a ditch and rejoins the pack.

    I had no idea the Tour was more like a combination of bike racing and the
    annual 'running of the bulls'. ;-D

    -B


  8. Quoted message said:

    I'm pretty sure Steve was talking about the 2003 musette bag
    incident. (That just can't happen ever again. No way.)

    right. that person should have been beaten with a tire pump (G)

    --
    Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
    Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
    See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

  9. Karen M. said:
    Badger said:

    please say it wasn't today! (I missed the end of the stage to go
    ride)

    I'm pretty sure Steve was talking about the 2003 musette bag
    incident. (That just can't happen ever again. No way.)

    Tell ya what, though -- right at the end of today's sprint, some yahoo is
    waving a flag or hanky right in the face of the leading rider! He just sort
    of ducked/deflected it, but it's beyond me why they allow fans to (almost)
    interfere like that.

    Bill "would have been UGLY (in terms of race results impact) if he'd gone
    down then" S.

  10. On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:14:41 -0400, Badger_South <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Of course there's the famous one from the 50s, where the guy went over a
    200 foot cliff. They showed him being interviewed in front of a plaque that
    they put on the side of the cliff for him. (Forget the specifics, and his
    name - maybe someone remembers).

    Probably the most famous crash in the Tour was Luis Ocana, who would
    have/should have beaten Eddie Merckx in 1971. He blew Eddie off his
    wheel and took almost nine minutes out of him to lead by eight. Three
    stages later he crashed and was subsequently struck by several other
    riders, and forced to retire with a almost insurmountable lead.

    He won a few years later. Stunning suicide at the time in the 90s.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

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