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  1. After the "would you use this service thread" I decided to haul myself off
    this chair and do some grocery shopping. And yes, folks, while I was out I
    was inspired to buy a couple of jarred sauces. I've never tried these
    particular sauces before so I cannot comment at this time. Bertolli's sells
    a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic and
    parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars than the
    Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those. You never know when you'll have a
    pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G> And I figure most of us usually enhance
    sauces of this type anyway with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of
    wine, etc.

    Jill

  2. jmcquown said:

    You never know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G>
    And I figure most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway
    with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    You figure wrongly (assuming that grating Parmesan cheese over the top
    doesn't count.)

    Best regards,
    Bob

  3. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and posted
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    After the "would you use this service thread" I decided to haul myself
    off this chair and do some grocery shopping. And yes, folks, while I
    was out I was inspired to buy a couple of jarred sauces. I've never
    tried these particular sauces before so I cannot comment at this time.
    Bertolli's sells a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a
    roasted garlic and parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4
    (smaller jars than the Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those. You never
    know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G> And I figure
    most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway with our own
    herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    I don't use a lot of jarred sauces but I have used Ragu sauces in the past.
    I'll usually get the sauces with meat (sausage if I can find it) and doctor
    it up. However, I usually find that browning my own meat, adding spices
    etc. does not take much more time than doctoring up the jar of sauce. One
    huge exception to this. When I make my own sauce I like it to simmer for
    3-4 hours. When using Ragu it's ready within the hour 😉

    I use jarred gravy sometimes but very rarely. I just don't care for the
    taste of it. I'd much rather scrape the crusty bits out of the pan and
    make my own. Once, and one time only, I used a tinned spaghetti sauce. GAG.

    Michael

    --
    "The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
    served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
    found."

    --Calvin Trillin

  4. On Sun 12 Mar 2006 02:37:03p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it zxcvbob?

    Quoted message said:
    jmcquown said:

    You never know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G>
    And I figure most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway
    with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    You figure wrongly (assuming that grating Parmesan cheese over the top
    doesn't count.)

    Best regards,
    Bob

    I *always* add something to jarred sauces before serving them. For one
    thing, I like cooking them longer to reduce them more, along with additions
    of sauteed onion, garlic, herbs, and oftentimes, meat. For me, a jarred
    sauce is often just a shortcut to more of a "homemade" sauce.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright o¿o
    ____________________

    BIOYA

  5. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sun 12 Mar 2006 02:37:03p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
    zxcvbob?

    Quoted message said:
    jmcquown said:

    You never know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G>
    And I figure most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway
    with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    You figure wrongly (assuming that grating Parmesan cheese over the
    top doesn't count.)

    Best regards,
    Bob

    I *always* add something to jarred sauces before serving them. For
    one thing, I like cooking them longer to reduce them more, along with
    additions of sauteed onion, garlic, herbs, and oftentimes, meat. For
    me, a jarred sauce is often just a shortcut to more of a "homemade"
    sauce.

    That's what I do, Wayne. Usually I wind up adding more basil and oregano;
    saute some onion and celery and if it needs garlic, that too. And yes, Bob,
    I think adding Parmesan cheese counts, unless you're talking about
    sprinkling it with that green shaker of grated stuff 😉

    Jill

  6. Wayne Boatwright said:


    On Sun 12 Mar 2006 02:37:03p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it zxcvbob?

    Quoted message said:
    jmcquown said:

    You never know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G>
    And I figure most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway
    with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    You figure wrongly (assuming that grating Parmesan cheese over the top
    doesn't count.)

    Best regards,
    Bob

    I *always* add something to jarred sauces before serving them. For one
    thing, I like cooking them longer to reduce them more, along with additions
    of sauteed onion, garlic, herbs, and oftentimes, meat. For me, a jarred
    sauce is often just a shortcut to more of a "homemade" sauce.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright o¿o
    ____________________

    BIOYA

    I use a jarred spaghetti sauce that I tweak to get that homemade
    taste. I usually make a large pot of it and let it mellow in the fridge
    for a day before we eat it. .....Sharon

  7. zxcvbob said:

    You figure wrongly.

    I think you're in the minority, bob. I certainly tweak jarred
    spaghetti sauce with herbs, meat, mushrooms, olives, wine, etc. I
    don't usually use prepared sauces, 'cept'n spaghetts, but I can't
    think of a jarred/canned anything (soup, veggies) that wouldn't
    benefit from a little help.

    nb

  8. notbob said:
    zxcvbob said:

    You figure wrongly.

    I think you're in the minority, bob. I certainly tweak jarred
    spaghetti sauce with herbs, meat, mushrooms, olives, wine, etc. I
    don't usually use prepared sauces, 'cept'n spaghetts, but I can't
    think of a jarred/canned anything (soup, veggies) that wouldn't
    benefit from a little help.

    nb

    I agree with "notbob". I just don't see the point of starting out with a
    jar of corn syrup & tomato paste and then trying to doctor it up when it
    is just too easy to start with tomatoes and take it anywhere you like.

  9. notbob said:
    zxcvbob said:

    You figure wrongly.

    I think you're in the minority, bob. I certainly tweak jarred
    spaghetti sauce with herbs, meat, mushrooms, olives, wine, etc. I
    don't usually use prepared sauces, 'cept'n spaghetts, but I can't
    think of a jarred/canned anything (soup, veggies) that wouldn't
    benefit from a little help.

    nb

    I'm a minority to as I don't buy commercial jarred tomato sauce but I do
    have a very nice supply of homecanned sauces. None of those need
    tweaking other than the plain tomato sauce. The types of commercial
    sauces I buy are Asian or Indian so I can get a feel of what the flavour
    and texture is supposed to be like. Once I've used them, I look for
    recipes to duplicate the sauce. Some I find difficult to get the
    ingredients to duplicate and others are just easier to buy the sauce. I
    don't tweak them though. I'm still learning how to make good Asian
    foods as well as starting to experiment with Indian foods so I find I'm
    not as adventurist as I should be. One thing we have tried is going to
    an authentic restaurant to help with developing the taste and feel of
    how the dish should be. I have a nice collection of hot sauces but I
    won't try tweaking them.

  10. George said:

    notbob wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don't usually use prepared sauces, 'cept'n spaghetts, but I can't
    think of a jarred/canned anything (soup, veggies) that wouldn't
    benefit from a little help.

    Quoted message said:

    I agree with "notbob". I just don't see the point of starting out with a
    jar of corn syrup & tomato paste and then trying to doctor it up when it
    is just too easy to start with tomatoes and take it anywhere you like.

    Same here. It's easier to buy a few cans of tomatoes (I used crushed
    recently, but I prefer diced if available) and make my own sauce. I
    just chop some white onion and garlic, heat in EVOO for a few minutes,
    add cans of tomatoes and some red wine and simmer while I do other
    stuff. After a while I add some spices and let it simmer some more.
    Then I divide it out and freeze it.
    That said, I do use Ragu or Bertolli white sauces if I need one.

    Stacia

  11. George said:


    I agree with "notbob". I just don't see the point of starting out with a
    jar of corn syrup & tomato paste and then trying to doctor it up when it
    is just too easy to start with tomatoes and take it anywhere you like.

    That's my take, too. Doctoring up a jar of 'spaghetti sauce' with
    your own herbs and spices and meats is a common way to start cooking,
    and it satisfies for a while. Eventually, you find that you can buy
    good canned tomatoes instead and it makes a much better starting point,
    in that it gives you control over the sugar and salt and also more
    overall flexibility. -aem

  12. zxcvbob said:
    jmcquown said:

    You never know when you'll have a pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G>
    And I figure most of us usually enhance sauces of this type anyway
    with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of wine, etc.

    Jill

    You figure wrongly (assuming that grating Parmesan cheese over the top
    doesn't count.)

    Yup, doctoring jarred sauce in an attempt to salvage what is
    essentially [censored] doesn't alter the fact that they are over salted,
    contain way too much fat, are loaded with with preservatives and
    thickener gums, and really haven't much flavor... not to mention those
    containing really scary mystery meat that's so pureed you can't really
    discern what it is... makes much more sense to doctor a can of plain
    old crushed tomatoes. Rather than fercocktah jarred pasta sauce, when
    in a hurry I heat a jar of all natural salsa with some good olive
    oil... already doctored plenty good enough and can choose from Mild,
    Medium, Hot. And can always add some anchovy, olives, canned shrimp,
    even a jar of marinated artichoke and chunks of kielbasa, whatever.

    Anyone who consumes jarred pasta sauce, regardless how altered, is a
    culinary desert... a can of pissghettiOs tossed with a tin of vienna
    sausage demonstrates far more creativity.

    Sheldon

  13. jmcquown said:


    Bertolli's sells
    a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic and
    parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars than the
    Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those.

    Check out Barilla's sauces. My all-time favorites, although we buy
    them rarely. Crash prefers the huge cans of Hunt's for a dollar per
    can, so that's what we usually get. I love the Barilla green and black
    olive sauce. If I remember correctly, that wouldn't be one of your
    choices, even if hell froze over. But try another variety sometime.
    It's very good, in my uneducated opinion.

    Gotta make a batch of Harry's Tomato Sauce sometime (it's Googleable,
    if anyone wants to check it out - I don't have MasterCook installed
    yet).

    Peace,
    Carol, who adds red wine and ground fennel to her jarred sauces

  14. Quoted message said:

    I agree with "notbob". I just don't see the point of starting out with a
    jar of corn syrup & tomato paste and then trying to doctor it up when it
    is just too easy to start with tomatoes and take it anywhere you like.

    Here here! Jarred spaghetti sauce is for a fast dinner: ten minutes
    tops. Dump the stuff onto cooked pasta (broccoli and/or sliced carrots
    added two minutes before it's done), and finito! No milling around the
    pot while the sauce simmers, thinking "What *else* could I add?"
    Luckily I'm not too far from Fairway, and they have a wonderful jarred
    sauce for $2.50. (Plus Trader Joe's opens in five days, corresponding
    to the date when all cooking-from-scratch ceases here.)

  15. Damsel in dis Dress wrote on 13 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Gotta make a batch of Harry's Tomato Sauce sometime (it's Googleable,
    if anyone wants to check it out

    Ditto...works well over sketty squash and pretend catch a torrie.

    --
    -Alan

  16. On Mon 13 Mar 2006 12:42:22p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Mr Libido
    Incognito?

    Quoted message said:

    Damsel in dis Dress wrote on 13 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Gotta make a batch of Harry's Tomato Sauce sometime (it's Googleable,
    if anyone wants to check it out

    Ditto...works well over sketty squash and pretend catch a torrie.

    The last torrie I caught put up such a fight, I vowed to never make it again.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
    ________________________________________

    Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!

  17. Damsel in dis Dress said:
    jmcquown said:


    Bertolli's sells
    a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic
    and parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars
    than the Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those.

    Check out Barilla's sauces. My all-time favorites, although we buy
    them rarely. Crash prefers the huge cans of Hunt's for a dollar per
    can, so that's what we usually get.

    Hunts makes mostly red sauces, though, right? I've seen it but never bought
    any. I bought the Raju "white" sauces; the roasted garlic and cheese. I
    figure it will go nicely with the spinach tortellini (stuffed with
    parmesan). And I can honestly say I've never made a vodka sauce, but I've
    heard much about it.

    I love the Barilla green and

    Quoted message said:

    black olive sauce. If I remember correctly, that wouldn't be one of
    your choices, even if hell froze over. But try another variety
    sometime. It's very good, in my uneducated opinion.


    Your opinion counts! But you're right, I don't care for olives. However,
    if hell froze over, I'd give it a whirl 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Gotta make a batch of Harry's Tomato Sauce sometime (it's Googleable,
    if anyone wants to check it out - I don't have MasterCook installed
    yet).

    Peace,
    Carol, who adds red wine and ground fennel to her jarred sauces

    Ah yes, I forgot about fennel! Excellent addition unless you're adding
    browned Italian sausage which already (should) contain a nice amount of
    fennel.

    Jill

  18. jmcquown said:


    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    jmcquown said:


    Bertolli's sells
    a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic
    and parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars
    than the Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those.

    Check out Barilla's sauces. My all-time favorites, although we buy
    them rarely. Crash prefers the huge cans of Hunt's for a dollar per
    can, so that's what we usually get.

    Hunts makes mostly red sauces, though, right? I've seen it but never bought
    any. I bought the Raju "white" sauces; the roasted garlic and cheese. I
    figure it will go nicely with the spinach tortellini (stuffed with
    parmesan). And I can honestly say I've never made a vodka sauce, but I've
    heard much about it.

    Dang, lady! I didn't pick up on that garlic/cheese sauce thing. If
    it's not too late, return it to the store. I'm serious. I've had
    vomit (on its way out) that's tasted better. I bought it once, washed
    it off my pasta, and started over. The "Alfredo Sauce" sucks too.

    Peace,
    Carol, shuddering

  19. Damsel in dis Dress said:
    jmcquown said:


    Damsel in dis Dress said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    >
    > Bertolli's sells
    > a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic
    > and parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars
    > than the Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those.

    Check out Barilla's sauces. My all-time favorites, although we buy
    them rarely. Crash prefers the huge cans of Hunt's for a dollar per
    can, so that's what we usually get.

    Hunts makes mostly red sauces, though, right? I've seen it but
    never bought any. I bought the Raju "white" sauces; the roasted
    garlic and cheese. I figure it will go nicely with the spinach
    tortellini (stuffed with parmesan). And I can honestly say I've
    never made a vodka sauce, but I've heard much about it.

    Dang, lady! I didn't pick up on that garlic/cheese sauce thing. If
    it's not too late, return it to the store. I'm serious. I've had
    vomit (on its way out) that's tasted better. I bought it once, washed
    it off my pasta, and started over. The "Alfredo Sauce" sucks too.

    Peace,
    Carol, shuddering

    Surely I can salvage? With addition of more garlic and some herbs? How can
    I drive back to the store and explain a friend on usenet said I should
    return it because the sauce sucks? LOL Besides, the receipt is already in
    the trash bag outside buried under some yukky stuff I'd rather not dig
    through 🙁

    I will try the Barilla sauce next time I shop; do they make "white" sauces?
    Shoot, I forgot I can just Google.

    Jill

  20. jmcquown said:

    After the "would you use this service thread" I decided to haul myself off
    this chair and do some grocery shopping. And yes, folks, while I was out I
    was inspired to buy a couple of jarred sauces. I've never tried these
    particular sauces before so I cannot comment at this time. Bertolli's sells
    a vodka sauce so I got a jar of that. Ragu sells a roasted garlic and
    parmesan cheese sauce; it was on sale two for $4 (smaller jars than the
    Bertolli) so I grabbed two of those. You never know when you'll have a
    pasta-needs-sauce-emergency. <G> And I figure most of us usually enhance
    sauces of this type anyway with our own herbs, more garlic, maybe a touch of
    wine, etc.

    Jill

    I haven't met one yet that wasn't way too salty. But I am coming to
    the conclusion that the average American eats 10 times more salt than I
    do. The chefs use it abundantly and freely on the cooking shows on TV,
    and nearly every meal I have ever eaten out is much too salty. About
    the saltiest thing I eat pre-packaged is salsa and many of them are
    inedible to me because of it. The exception is pickles and jarred
    green olives, and I'm not sure why - maybe because I expect them to be
    salty.

    DH is even more sensitive than I, so I have to be careful when I cook.

    -L.

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