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    Bob
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    Is a technique similar to the French "poulet au crepaudine."
    It's not a small chicken or any other kind of bird. It's a
    method of preparation.

    Some suppliers of birds may call their product spatchcock,
    but that's no different than supermarkets saying that eye
    round is "filet mignon of round" so they can raise the
    price. It's not a recognized cut; it's a marketing ploy.

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Pastorio

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  2. Hahabogus
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    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is a technique similar to the French "poulet au
    crepaudine." It's not a small chicken or any other kind of
    bird. It's a method of preparation.

    Some suppliers of birds may call their product spatchcock,
    but that's no different than supermarkets saying that eye
    round is "filet mignon of round" so they can raise the
    price. It's not a recognized cut; it's a marketing ploy.

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Pastorio

    So you're saying the definition in the RFC FAQ is incorrect?

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  3. Robert Klute
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    On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:51:39 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Is a technique similar to the French "poulet au
    crepaudine." It's not a small chicken or any other kind of
    bird. It's a method of preparation.

    Some suppliers of birds may call their product spatchcock,
    but that's no different than supermarkets saying that eye
    round is "filet mignon of round" so they can raise the
    price. It's not a recognized cut; it's a marketing ploy.

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Since the term appears to be of Irish origin, an obvious
    question would be "is the term an English corruption of a
    Gaelic word?".

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  4. Bob
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    hahabogus said:

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is a technique similar to the French "poulet au
    crepaudine." It's not a small chicken or any other kind of
    bird. It's a method of preparation.

    Some suppliers of birds may call their product spatchcock,
    but that's no different than supermarkets saying that eye
    round is "filet mignon of round" so they can raise the
    price. It's not a recognized cut; it's a marketing ploy.

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Pastorio


    So you're saying the definition in the RFC FAQ is
    incorrect?

    Guess so, huh...?

    I hope it's the very worst error any of us come in contact
    with today.

    Pastorio

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  5. Bob
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    Robert Klute said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Is a technique similar to the French "poulet au
    crepaudine." It's not a small chicken or any other kind of
    bird. It's a method of preparation.

    Some suppliers of birds may call their product spatchcock,
    but that's no different than supermarkets saying that eye
    round is "filet mignon of round" so they can raise the
    price. It's not a recognized cut; it's a marketing ploy.

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Since the term appears to be of Irish origin, an obvious
    question would be "is the term an English corruption of a
    Gaelic word?".

    *One* story imputes that it's of Irish origin. Another one
    I've heard is that it's a corruption of "spaccato" -
    "chopped" or "split" in Italian. No proof for any of it.

    If the Brits can make "Ypres" (EE-pr in French) into
    "wipers," anything can be posited. <g> You like Gaelic?
    Gaelic it is...

    Pastorio

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  6. Robert Klute
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    On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:33:18 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Robert Klute said:

    On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:51:39 -0400, "Bob (this one)"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Since the term appears to be of Irish origin, an obvious
    question would be "is the term an English corruption of a
    Gaelic word?".

    *One* story imputes that it's of Irish origin. Another one
    I've heard is that it's a corruption of "spaccato" -
    "chopped" or "split" in Italian. No proof for any of it.

    If the Brits can make "Ypres" (EE-pr in French) into
    "wipers," anything can be posited. <g> You like Gaelic?
    Gaelic it is...

    I like Italian, too. The oldest reference to spatchcock in
    the above website is "A classical of the vulgar tongue",
    1785. It refers to "Spatch [censored], abbreviation of dispatch
    [censored], an Irish dish ..."

    It might be a corruption of dispatched [censored], meaning a bird
    quickly killed and quickly prepared. It might be a play on
    the noun dispatch - a quickly sent communication - referring
    to the bird being opened like a book and quickly send to
    it's destination - your plate.

    Then I like spaccato, loosing the ending 'O' and becoming
    spatch-cot, and then spatch [censored]. It is just the sort of
    corruption the English would do to an Italian word.
    Still, the reference to Irish origin still begs the
    question of whether there might be a Gaelic word it could
    be corrupted from.

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  7. Bob
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    Robert Klute said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Robert Klute said:

    On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:51:39 -0400, "Bob (this one)"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > nakedwhiz.comspatchdef.htm

    Since the term appears to be of Irish origin, an obvious
    question would be "is the term an English corruption of
    a Gaelic word?".

    *One* story imputes that it's of Irish origin. Another
    one I've heard is that it's a corruption of "spaccato" -
    "chopped" or "split" in Italian. No proof for any of it.

    If the Brits can make "Ypres" (EE-pr in French) into
    "wipers," anything can be posited. <g> You like Gaelic?
    Gaelic it is...

    Quoted message said:

    I like Italian, too. The oldest reference to spatchcock in
    the above website is "A classical of the vulgar tongue",
    1785. It refers to "Spatch [censored], abbreviation of dispatch
    [censored], an Irish dish ..."

    Such sources are notoriously inaccurate. As are too many
    modern ones.

    Quoted message said:

    It might be a corruption of dispatched [censored], meaning a
    bird quickly killed and quickly prepared.

    The reference says "dispatch [censored]" - no "ed" on the end.

    "Dispatched" (adjective) simply means "killed" with no
    reference to speed. To dispatch can mean to send or it can
    mean to kill.

    "Dispatch" (noun) can mean speedy activity. As in to perform
    something with dispatch.

    It would make more sense if the bird were completely
    dismembered. That way it would cook the fastest.

    Quoted message said:

    It might be a play on the noun dispatch - a quickly sent
    communication - referring to the bird being opened like a
    book and quickly send to it's destination - your plate.

    Feels a bit of a stretch to me.

    Quoted message said:

    Then I like spaccato, losing the ending 'O' and becoming
    spatch-cot, and then spatch [censored]. It is just the sort of
    corruption the English would do to an Italian word.
    Still, the reference to Irish origin still begs the
    question of whether there might be a Gaelic word it could
    be corrupted from.

    There's folklore and there's *fakelore*...

    I'll bet the choices in Gaelic are going to be at least as
    far-fetched as the "dispatch" one.

    Pastorio

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