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  1. In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour04.php?id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:
    http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and which
    is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and yellow
    team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo got one for?

    BTW, how about some ups for Gutierrez. Don't think anybody
    mentioned him all day, but he was 3rd, beating McGee, Voigt,
    Ullrich, etc etc.

  2. Benjamin Weiner said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour04.php?id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:
    http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and which
    is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and yellow
    team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo got one for?

    I'm not sure what the deal with the prologue is, but all the national
    champions wearing their jerseys (that I saw during OLN's coverage) were the
    road race champions; not the time-trial champs.

    The only exception was Thor Hushovd, but since he is both the current road
    and time-trial champion, it didn't really matter.

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  3. "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Benjamin Weiner said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour04.php?id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:
    http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and which
    is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and yellow
    team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo got one for?

    I'm not sure what the deal with the prologue is, but all the national
    champions wearing their jerseys (that I saw during OLN's coverage) were


    the

    Quoted message said:

    road race champions; not the time-trial champs.

    The only exception was Thor Hushovd, but since he is both the current road
    and time-trial champion, it didn't really matter.

    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road stage and not
    an ITT and I guess under some interpretations of the rules that is how they
    sometimes justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield
    stevens at veloworks dot com
    veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
    bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
    ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch
    aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
    double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  4. Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road stage and not
    an ITT and I guess under some interpretations of the rules that is how they
    sometimes justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the national champ jersey? I
    haven't. This is not the world champ jersey, rules are different.

    Jenko

  5. Jenko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road stage and not
    an ITT and I guess under some interpretations of the rules that is how they
    sometimes justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the national champ jersey? I
    haven't. This is not the world champ jersey, rules are different.

    Jenko

    The rule is: In stage races the only national champion jerseys are
    those of the road champions and they wear the jersey even in the ITT.
    The the only time a national TT champion wears a champions jersey is
    in a one day time trial event like GP Nations.

  6. in article 40e76935$1@darkstar, Benjamin Weiner at [email hidden]
    wrote on 7/3/04 7:19 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour04.php?id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:
    http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and which
    is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and yellow
    team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo got one for?

    BTW, how about some ups for Gutierrez. Don't think anybody
    mentioned him all day, but he was 3rd, beating McGee, Voigt,
    Ullrich, etc etc.

    This is not the last you will see of him in this race, mark my words.
    (Unless he crashes of course.)

  7. in article [email hidden], Jenko at [email hidden] wrote
    on 7/4/04 10:07 AM:

    Quoted message said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road stage and not
    an ITT and I guess under some interpretations of the rules that is how they
    sometimes justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the national champ jersey?
    I
    haven't. This is not the world champ jersey, rules are different.

    Winners of national ITT championships are still REQUIRED - not requested,
    but required, under penalty - to wear their jersey in time-trials. But the
    Prologue is not classified as an ITT, it is classified as a Prologue.

    -Sonarrat.

  8. Jenko said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road stage and
    not
    an ITT and I guess under some interpretations of the rules that is how
    they
    sometimes justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the national champ
    jersey? I haven't. This is not the world champ jersey, rules are different.

    Gordon McCauley.

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