Spalding Gray is dead

modom said:

His body was found in the East River off Greenpoint
Sunday. Dental records confirmed the identity according
to WNBC.com. He reportedly was battling depression ever
since he was badly injured in a car crash in Ireland two
years ago.

Guess he didn't make it to Cambodia.

I'm going to the liquor store.

I find it interesting that these announements end up in
cooking groups. I never see this in any other type of forum
or newsgroup, only ones that involve food.

Maybe it's some kind of Freudian food/thanatos thing. Weird.

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modom said:

I'm going to the liquor store.

Been there, done that. Drinking it now :-)

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His body was found in the East River off Greenpoint
Sunday. Dental records confirmed the identity according
to WNBC.com. He reportedly was battling depression ever
since he was badly injured in a car crash in Ireland two
years ago.

Guess he didn't make it to Cambodia.

I'm going to the liquor store.

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modom <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ip9q40l3fnts3sompl1usc2ce1q3smqh4u@
4ax.com:

Quoted message said:

Spalding Gray is dead

So are a lot of othe people.

Reg said:

modom said:

His body was found in the East River off Greenpoint
Sunday. Dental records confirmed the identity according
to WNBC.com. He reportedly was battling depression ever
since he was badly injured in a car crash in Ireland two
years ago.

Guess he didn't make it to Cambodia.

I'm going to the liquor store.

I find it interesting that these announements end up in
cooking groups. I never see this in any other type of
forum or newsgroup, only ones that involve food.

Maybe it's some kind of Freudian food/thanatos
thing. Weird.

These announcements turn up in other newsgroups as well. If
you hang out in newsgroups relating to science, math or
computer programming you will see announcements of people
who greatly affected the field passing away.

It might be worth noting though that Spalding Gray is not
know for cooking (as far as I know) but he ends up in this
newsgroup. I would expect to see announcements of Julia
Childs, Graham Kerr, etc. appearing here.

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Quoted message said:

modom wrote: snip I find it interesting that these
announements end up in cooking groups. I never see this in
any other type of forum or newsgroup, only ones that
involve food.

Maybe it's some kind of Freudian food/thanatos
thing. Weird.

We had this discussion about a year ago comparing RFC to the
kitchen. The kitchen is the heart of the home, where meals
are made as are plans for the future, looking to the past.
We all come in, pull up a chair and have a cuppa cawfee (or
tea). A lot of times we talk about food, but sometimes, well
sometimes, you just go into the kitchen to be with friends,
whether or not you want to talk food or not.

When we buried my niece two weeks ago, those who wanted to
be seen, and to see who was there, were out in the
fellowship hall. Those of us who wanted to mourn, well, we
were in the kitchen, making coffee, wiping dishes, and
talking, talking about the good times, the bad times and
times in between.

If Mike wants to let off steam regarding Spalding Gray,
I say let him. He is entitled, we're all family of a
sorts here.

-Ginny

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John Gaughan said:

modom said:

I'm going to the liquor store.

Been there, done that. Drinking it now :-)

Who the heck is Spalding Gray? Seriously, I never heard
of the guy.

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On 03/08/2004 8:56 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Wayne Boatwright"
<[email hidden]> opined:

Quoted message said:

modom <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Spalding Gray is dead

So are a lot of othe people.

Who is Spalding Gray? Must be some [censored] because he is front
page news at the NY Times.
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Quoted message said:

I find it interesting that these announements end up in
cooking groups. I never see this in any other type of
forum or newsgroup, only ones that involve food.

Maybe it's some kind of Freudian food/ thanatos
thing. Weird.

I don't think that's so. Many newsgroups, bulletin boards,
lists -- most of the groups I read and participate in -- are
individual communities, each with their own flavor, local
color, customs, expectations, regulars, etc., rather than
just on-topic dicussion forums. It's this kind of community
that literally saved a regular's life last year in the BBQ
newsgroup, and has enabled at least three marriages that I'm
aware of in another group (*not* a personals group). People
*meet* in these places, get to know one another, and come
and go. It's a lot like life (with the added advantage of
killfiles, if there are folks whose posts raise your blood
pressure) -- shared joy is doubled, shared sorrow halved and
all that (with many thanks to Spider Robinson and his
Callahans Saloon).

-j

jacqui{JB} said:

I don't think that's so. Many newsgroups, bulletin boards,
lists -- most of the groups I read and participate in --
are individual communities, each with their own flavor,
local color, customs, expectations, regulars, etc., rather
than just on-topic dicussion forums.

Right. The traffic in different kinds of groups varies,
and my point was that food groups carry a
disproportionate amount of celebrity death notices. I
have no idea why this is.

Quoted message said:

It's this kind of community that literally saved a
regular's life last year in the BBQ newsgroup,

This completely supports my point. Talk about thanatos...

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LAllin said:

John Gaughan said:

modom said:

I'm going to the liquor store.

Been there, done that. Drinking it now :-)

Who the heck is Spalding Gray? Seriously, I never heard
of the guy.

I think that's really really sad. He was an
actor/performance artist who wrote and spoke about his
personal problems in a way that touched many people. Some
people felt he was whiny and self-absorbed, but I think, for
the most part, most of the people who saw him perform his
pieces were changed by them.

You can rent Swimming to Cambodia, which is his award-
winning piece, and isn't completely about himself.

He has also been in many many films. You can see his
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Catherine Parr are no longer here to suffer through this assault on our
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The Wolf said:

On 03/08/2004 8:56 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Wayne
Boatwright" <[email hidden]> opined:

Quoted message said:

modom <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:ip9q40l3fnts3sompl1usc2ce1q3smqh4u@ 4ax.com:

Quoted message said:

Spalding Gray is dead

So are a lot of othe people.

Who is Spalding Gray? Must be some [censored] because he is front
page news at the NY Times.

I said the same thing until they flashed his pic. on the
news and I said , "oh, I've seen that guy." He's one of
those people that I'm sure you've seen on the screen but
never knew the name. I can't tell you off hand anything that
he's been in though.

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Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

LAllin said:

Who the heck is Spalding Gray? Seriously, I never heard of
the guy.

A writer and performer best known for his monologues in
which he talks about his life. I saw him live twice. His wry
sense of humor and offbeat observations made him popular
with a loyal following and practically unknown to others. He
wasn't a huge star, but those who loved him loved him well.

--Lia

"Reg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Right. The traffic in different kinds of groups varies,
and my point was that food groups carry a
disproportionate amount of celebrity death notices. I
have no idea why this is.

My point -- and my experience -- is that it's not *just* the
food groups.

-j

in article [email hidden], Steve Calvin at
[email hidden] wrote on 3/9/04 7:05 AM:

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He's one of those people that I'm sure you've seen on
the screen but never knew the name. I can't tell you off
hand anything that he's been in though.

He was in "Beaches", as Barbara Hershey's character's OB/GYN
who dated Bette Midler's character.

I actually saw him perform on the stage in 1989 in "Our
Town"....a wonderful actor but tormented soul, apparently.

On 03/09/2004 4:05 AM, in article
[email hidden], "Steve Calvin"
<[email hidden]> opined:

Quoted message said:

The Wolf said:

On 03/08/2004 8:56 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Wayne
Boatwright" <[email hidden]>
opined:

Quoted message said:

modom <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:ip9q40l3fnts3sompl1usc2ce1q3smqh4u@ 4ax.com:

> Spalding Gray is dead

So are a lot of othe people.

Who is Spalding Gray? Must be some [censored] because he is
front page news at the NY Times.

I said the same thing until they flashed his pic. on the
news and I said , "oh, I've seen that guy." He's one of
those people that I'm sure you've seen on the screen but
never knew the name. I can't tell you off hand anything
that he's been in though.

At first glance I thought he was the "Alf" guy.
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modom said:

His body was found in the East River off Greenpoint
Sunday. Dental records confirmed the identity according
to WNBC.com. He reportedly was battling depression ever
since he was badly injured in a car crash in Ireland two
years ago.

Guess he didn't make it to Cambodia.

I'm going to the liquor store.

Never heard of him. But, what the hell, I'm going to the
liquor store, too.

Virginia Tadrzynski said:

"Reg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

modom wrote: snip I find it interesting that these
announements end up in cooking groups. I never see this
in any other type of forum or newsgroup, only ones that
involve food.

Maybe it's some kind of Freudian food/thanatos
thing. Weird.

We had this discussion about a year ago comparing RFC to
the kitchen. The kitchen is the heart of the home, where
meals are made as are plans for the future, looking to
the past. We all come in, pull up a chair and have a
cuppa cawfee (or tea). A lot of times we talk about food,
but sometimes, well sometimes, you just go into the
kitchen to be with friends, whether or not you want to
talk food or not.

When we buried my niece two weeks ago, those who wanted to
be seen, and to see who was there, were out in the
fellowship hall. Those of us who wanted to mourn, well, we
were in the kitchen, making coffee, wiping dishes, and
talking, talking about the good times, the bad times and
times in between.

If Mike wants to let off steam regarding Spalding Gray,
I say let him. He is entitled, we're all family of a
sorts here.

-Ginny

You said a mouthful, Ginny! And yes, it's a big kitchen. We
can discuss, bicker, disagree and still come up with some
wonderful recipes and cooking information. I, for one, find
life completely boring if I just talk about cooking all the
time. There IS more to it than just that.

Jill

Julia Altshuler said:

A writer and performer best known for his monologues in
which he talks about his life. I saw him live twice. His
wry sense of humor and offbeat observations made him
popular with a loyal following and practically unknown to
others. He wasn't a huge star, but those who loved him
loved him well.

I saw him in live performances as well, and found him
increasingly tedious as time went on. In the mid '80s, I was
convinced he was brilliant. Fair warning: I thought a lot of
things were brilliant in the '80s. By the time I saw him
last in the late '90s, I was certain that he needed either
to grow up or get his meds adjusted or both -- "Felix Unger"
couldn't hold a whine this long.

His death is no surprise. He couldn't see very far beyond
the end of his nose, which is typical for the suicidal.