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  1. At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Tony ;-)

  2. Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Tony ;-)

    I love it!

    Cheers, helen s

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  3. Tony Raven [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    What a fantastic idea. I bet that one's going down a bomb with the other
    50%!

    Jon

  4. Jon Senior said:

    Tony Raven [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    What a fantastic idea. I bet that one's going down a bomb with the other
    50%!

    Apparently not. They can only muster one photo and can't get their
    domain set up!

    http://www.howdoyoulikemyface.com/kmaa/index.html

    Tony

  5. Tony Raven [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Apparently not. They can only muster one photo and can't get their
    domain set up!

    http://www.howdoyoulikemyface.com/kmaa/index.html

    Linked to from their site is:

    http://www.swornenemy.org/

    While reading the top entry I couldn't help but wonder if it was a
    satire. Sadly I suspect not.

    Jon

  6. On 21 Nov 2004 09:34:16 GMT someone who may be
    [email hidden] (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote
    this:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/


    I love it!

    The gallery is rather sad to look through though.

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  7. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    Tony Raven [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    What a fantastic idea. I bet that one's going down a bomb with the other
    50%!

    Apparently not. They can only muster one photo and can't get their domain
    set up!

    http://www.howdoyoulikemyface.com/kmaa/index.html

    Tony

    No Bush suporter but you missed the obvious www.werenotsorry.com

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    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  8. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Tony ;-)

    I am afraid that there is an alternative site

    http://www.werenotsorry.com
    or
    http://yourewelcomeverybody.com/

    not everyone agrees.

    Gavin

  9. On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:58:27 +0000 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Unfortunately they have chosen to host the site on a company that is
    a perfect illustration of US imperial arrogance, Rackspace.

    Those who do not know what I am talking about should start at
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/11/300886.html and follow the
    links if they wish.

    An own goal I think.

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  10. David Hansen said:

    On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:58:27 +0000 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Unfortunately they have chosen to host the site on a company that is
    a perfect illustration of US imperial arrogance, Rackspace.

    From the page given below it seems that Rackspace were complying with US law
    enforcement edicts and not acting off their own back. The article even says
    that boycotting the company rather misses the point so they obviously think
    that Rackspace were pressured into complying with an unjust law.

    Quoted message said:

    Those who do not know what I am talking about should start at
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/11/300886.html and follow the
    links if they wish.

    An own goal I think.

    --
    Chris

  11. On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:56:01 +0000 someone who may be Monkey Hanger
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    From the page given below it seems that Rackspace were complying with US law
    enforcement edicts and not acting off their own back.

    Perhaps you could point out where I claimed otherwise? If you cannot
    do so you might like to burn your straw man.

    Quoted message said:

    The article even says
    that boycotting the company rather misses the point

    I disagree. Making them aware of their responsibilities will
    encourage them and others to do the right thing in future.

    Quoted message said:

    so they obviously think
    that Rackspace were pressured into complying with an unjust law.

    Ah, another mind reader.

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  12. David Hansen [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps you could point out where I claimed otherwise? If you cannot
    do so you might like to burn your straw man.

    "Unfortunately they have chosen to host the site on a company that is
    a perfect illustration of US imperial arrogance, Rackspace.

    Those who do not know what I am talking about should start at
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/11/300886.html and follow the
    links if they wish."

    The above sort of suggests that you did in fact think that Rackspace
    were doing something above and beyond what they had to. When facing the
    might of the American legal system, most companies would comply. A
    honourable company that didn't would vanish overnight, so not really an
    issue.

    Quoted message said:

    I disagree. Making them aware of their responsibilities will
    encourage them and others to do the right thing in future.

    Yes, withholding money from them will definately encourage them to fight
    the law in future cases.

    Jon

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Monkey Hanger

    (') said:
    David Hansen said:

    On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:58:27 +0000 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    At least some of them are sorry.

    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

    Unfortunately they have chosen to host the site on a company that is
    a perfect illustration of US imperial arrogance, Rackspace.

    From the page given below it seems that Rackspace were complying with
    US law enforcement edicts and not acting off their own back.

    It's much, much more complex than that.

    The US court did not have jurisdiction over London. The Rackspace colo
    in London is a wholly-owned subsidiary, but it is nevertheless legally
    a separate entity which was not ordered by the US court to do anything
    (and nor could it have been). The FBI agents who picked up the servers
    are not, by US law, permitted to operate outside the continental United
    States. So not only was Rackspace not required to hand over the
    servers, it was illegal (under US as well as UK law) for the FBI to
    require them to hand them over.

    There are more questions about this than answers.

    My take on this story is here:
    <URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk/dogfood/story/article_18.html>

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