Sore muscles - after every workout?

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I have read conflicting information about sore muscles. Some say you
should only have sore muscles as a beginner, others say substantial
muscle growth can only be achieved when you experience sore muscles.

I am a beginner and am primarily interested in gaining strength - not
neccessarily size (if it is valid to make that distinction).

How do you exercise?

soreness plays no part in assessment of my training. Being able to
maintain proper form, making the required reps for all the sets in a
given workout, and being able to slowly increase the weight over time
are the main parameters I use to create effective routines (which I
alter every so often, either after 12 or 18 weeks).

Ari

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Quoted message said:

I have read conflicting information about sore muscles. Some say you
should only have sore muscles as a beginner ...

Only partially true.

Quoted message said:

... others say substantial
muscle growth can only be achieved when you experience sore muscles.

Total [censored].

Quoted message said:

I am a beginner and am primarily interested in gaining strength - not
neccessarily size (if it is valid to make that distinction).

Only partially valid. There needs to be some muscle fiber growth to
increase capacity for strength, but a large part of strength gain is
neuromuscular adaptation. That comes with practicing the particular
movement.

DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is *not* necessary, or even
optimal, for strength gain. Beginners will get DOMS pretty regularly.
Experienced lifters will get DOMS sometimes, often after a lay-off, or
when performing a movement which they haven't done in a while, or when
changing exercise intensity.

It's not a bad thing, except that it may extend recovery time, but
it's not necessary for muscle growth.

Quoted message said:

How do you exercise?

Lift weights?

JMW said:

Quoted message said:

How do you exercise?

He plays with his "wee one".

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Quoted message said:

I have read conflicting information about sore muscles. Some say you
should only have sore muscles as a beginner, others say substantial
muscle growth can only be achieved when you experience sore muscles.

I am a beginner and am primarily interested in gaining strength - not
neccessarily size (if it is valid to make that distinction).

How do you exercise?

As hard as I can, and I don't worry about it. ;-)

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I am more of a veteran lifter and unless im trying a new excersise
where i might be hitting just the slightest different area of muscle
for the first time,i hardly ever get sore.

I try to get the pump basicaly.When i eat cereal after a curling work
out my arm will shake,im happy there.

If youre just starting i wouldent worry to much about soreness,prob try
to avoid it i.e....up body hurts then do legs,if not,and its not that
bad work through it,just listen to your body,if its telling u hey STOP
,prob a good idea to close down .

My friend just lost 50 pounds and is now picking up weights for the
first time,he is sore everyday,his body is just being introduced to
this kind of torture.

After my workouts I am aware that I worked out for several days later.
I don't get really sore like when starting back after a layoff. In my
experience I get better gains when I at least workout hard enough to
feel like I worked out the next day and sometimes the day after, I
wouldn't call it soreness just realization that I worked out my muscles
well. As a beginner you will get gains if you lift and will sometimes
be sore in the beginning. Just don't get discouraged, be careful to
avoid injury; we've all had days where we felt beat up after a workout.

Good Luck,
James