I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA! -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
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I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
How? I don't see it increasing or decreasing performance myself. But the general rule is to get as tight as you can for big lifts. I could see teeth clenching being bad in athletics (eg 100m sprint), but not weightlifting. I really don't see it having much affect at all. What mechanism could it really affect? I've seen great lifters who clench and great lifters that don't.
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories... I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
wait...I think it was teeth clenching reduced performance but the mouth gaurd to bite down on ameliorated the problem...
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I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
No, no grinding... Just sore jaw muscles from a hard "workout" <lol> About the same way my legs feel the day after a good leg trashing.....
Time will tell! Jack told me he cracked a couple of teeth, hence his mouth insert.
But, he was a competitive powerlifter at one time. I just lift for personal satisfaction, not competition. I'm too old for that.
Thanks! -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
Ah. Time to hit google. ;-)
I was more concious of what I did yesterday and noted that I only clench my teeth on incline presses and, apparently, deadlifts. I guess when you are really concentrating on lifting that damned heavy barbell and keeping the balance etc., you don't notice much else!
Not even the rap music that comes on the gym radio once in awhile. ;-P
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In article <[email hidden]>, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and >Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and >arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. >;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on >weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories... > >I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >mandible muscles on my jaws. > >I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. > >They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to >the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to >invest in a rubber mouth insert? > >TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
How? I don't see it increasing or decreasing performance myself. But the general rule is to get as tight as you can for big lifts. I could see teeth clenching being bad in athletics (eg 100m sprint), but not weightlifting. I really don't see it having much affect at all. What mechanism could it really affect? I've seen great lifters who clench and great lifters that don't.
I think it's a personal thing. Without a doubt, clenching my teeth (and I use a mouthpiece) helps my deadlift, and back when I did calf raises, it helped with those too. But it screws up my breathing too much to wear a mouthpiece when squatting or benching.
For the OP, if you choose to wear a mouthpiece don't forget that you can trim it down to make it more comfortable, since you aren't counting on it to protect you should you take a blow to the head. I've trimmed mine to where it only covers about 6 teeth.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:27:01 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
Quoted message said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Hobbes said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
No, no grinding... Just sore jaw muscles from a hard "workout" <lol> About the same way my legs feel the day after a good leg trashing.....
Time will tell! Jack told me he cracked a couple of teeth, hence his mouth insert.
But, he was a competitive powerlifter at one time. I just lift for personal satisfaction, not competition. I'm too old for that.
Thanks!
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. You are never too old to compete at powerlifting as long as you can break parallel in the squat and come back up with 55 pounds or more on your back.
In article <[email hidden]>, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and >Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and >arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. >;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on >weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories... > >I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >mandible muscles on my jaws. > >I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. > >They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to >the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to >invest in a rubber mouth insert? > >TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
How? I don't see it increasing or decreasing performance myself. But the general rule is to get as tight as you can for big lifts. I could see teeth clenching being bad in athletics (eg 100m sprint), but not weightlifting. I really don't see it having much affect at all. What mechanism could it really affect? I've seen great lifters who clench and great lifters that don't.
My greatest concern was the possibility of damage to the teeth over time. If that's not an issue, then I won't worry about it. ;-) -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
Hobbes wrote: > In article <[email hidden]>, > OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and >>Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and >>arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier >>lately. >>;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on >>weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories... >> >>I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >>and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >>mandible muscles on my jaws. >> >>I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >>mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. >> >>They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to >>the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to >>invest in a rubber mouth insert? >> >>TIA! > > > There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I > think > it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As > long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay. >
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
How? I don't see it increasing or decreasing performance myself. But the general rule is to get as tight as you can for big lifts. I could see teeth clenching being bad in athletics (eg 100m sprint), but not weightlifting. I really don't see it having much affect at all. What mechanism could it really affect? I've seen great lifters who clench and great lifters that don't.
I think it's a personal thing. Without a doubt, clenching my teeth (and I use a mouthpiece) helps my deadlift, and back when I did calf raises, it helped with those too. But it screws up my breathing too much to wear a mouthpiece when squatting or benching.
For the OP, if you choose to wear a mouthpiece don't forget that you can trim it down to make it more comfortable, since you aren't counting on it to protect you should you take a blow to the head. I've trimmed mine to where it only covers about 6 teeth.
Cool, thanks! I'll have to at least give it a try. I assume I can get these either at a sporting goods store, or someplace like Walgreens? -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:27:01 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
Quoted message said:
In article <[email hidden]>,
Hobbes said:
In article <[email hidden]>, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and > Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and > arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. > ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on > weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories... > > I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks > and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear > mandible muscles on my jaws. > > I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber > mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. > > They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to > the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to > invest in a rubber mouth insert? > > TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
No, no grinding... Just sore jaw muscles from a hard "workout" <lol> About the same way my legs feel the day after a good leg trashing.....
Time will tell! Jack told me he cracked a couple of teeth, hence his mouth insert.
But, he was a competitive powerlifter at one time. I just lift for personal satisfaction, not competition. I'm too old for that.
Thanks!
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. You are never too old to compete at powerlifting as long as you can break parallel in the squat and come back up with 55 pounds or more on your back.
All in good time....... ;-) -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
I've recently started doing a split routine (lower body on Mon. and Thurs. and upper body on Teus. and Fri, Wed. Cardio only plus abs and arms) so have been able to force myself to start lifting heavier lately. ;-) I was doing variations on full body 5 days per week with a break on weekends only, mainly in the interest of burning lots of calories...
I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear mandible muscles on my jaws.
I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts.
They look awkward and uncomfortable, but how much damage can be done to the teeth from hard clenching during heavy lifts? Would it be wise to invest in a rubber mouth insert?
TIA!
There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
I recall the Mad Russian, or maybe it was one of his disciples, saying that one ought to strive to keep tension below the neck for most lifts most of the time. Personally, I do find clench my jaw on really heavy deads, but not until the going gets pretty heavy, 90-95% 1RM or so. Jaw clenching starts to fall into the "psych yourself" category for me - I want to practice maximizing muscle tension for heavy lifts, but by the same token I want to save the psych for the meet or the 1RM attempt.
In article <[email hidden]>, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> >I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >mandible muscles on my jaws. > >I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. >
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There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay.
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
Ah. Time to hit google. ;-)
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Um, I think they're just screwin' with ya, dude 🙂.
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>> >>I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >>and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >>mandible muscles on my jaws. >> >>I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >>mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. >>
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> > There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think > it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As > long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay. >
The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
Ah. Time to hit google. ;-)
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Um, I think they're just screwin' with ya, dude 🙂.
Probably... ;-) But, it's fun to humour them!
Cheers! -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
>>>I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >>>and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >>>mandible muscles on my jaws. >>> >>>I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >>>mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. >>>
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Quoted message said:
>>There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think >>it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As >>long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay. >> > >The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance.
Ah. Time to hit google. ;-)
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Um, I think they're just screwin' with ya, dude 🙂.
Probably... ;-) But, it's fun to humour them!
Cheers!
I wasn't. I read it years ago, clenching teeth and grimacing reduced performance, with some amelioration coming from the use of mouth gaurds to bite onto. Where I read this I honestly can't say, it was about 15 years ago.
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>>>>I've added 30% more weight to my deadlift over the past couple of weeks >>>>and yesterday, I woke up with a very sore face, right over the rear >>>>mandible muscles on my jaws. >>>> >>>>I've noted a couple of the powerlifting guys at my gym wearing rubber >>>>mouth inserts to protect their teeth during clenching with heavy lifts. >>>>
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>>>There was a report that clenching your teeth made you stronger - I think >>>it was the mad Russian. So this is why the rubber inserts show up. As >>>long as you don't actually grind your teeth I think you'll be okay. >>> >> >>The one I read said that teeth clenching reduced performance. > >Ah. Time to hit google. ;-)
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Um, I think they're just screwin' with ya, dude 🙂.
Probably... ;-) But, it's fun to humour them!
Cheers!
I wasn't. I read it years ago, clenching teeth and grimacing reduced performance, with some amelioration coming from the use of mouth gaurds to bite onto. Where I read this I honestly can't say, it was about 15 years ago.
Thanks for the followup. :-)
The thing is, the teeth clenching was not done deliberately. In fact, I did not even realize I was doing it until I woke up with a sore face! Then I started paying more attention.
I kinda "zone" when I am doing deadlifts. It's my favorite lift and I concentrate pretty hard on the weights, not on what my teeth are doing!
That and Incline press..... -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
