Something to train for?

Alabaster said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

Thanks,
chris.

Martial arts. You sound like you'd be ok with the discipline and the
competitive element is a great incentive. Plus, once you get a
toe-hold (!), you can go in so many directions as there are so many
disciplines to explore.

BB
--
www.kruse.co.uk/ [email hidden]
The buffalo have gone

Alabaster said:

and my brain

....is totally absent.

Alabaster said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would
serve as a focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me
motivated.
The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's
bad on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional
options.
The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training,

Aim for the 300/400/500 club in 3 years time.

Quoted message said:

fat loss, and

Less than 15% bodyfat this year.

Quoted message said:

aerobic stamina

Run 5k in 30 mins, or row (Concept 2) 2000m in 7 mins, both this year.

Quoted message said:

(in addition to mental
toughness, focus, determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

Thanks,
chris.

--
Bully
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:35:31 -0000, "Bully"

neil_simpson@spam-me-not_btinternet.com said:

Quoted message said:

aerobic stamina

row (Concept 2) 2000m in 7 mins, both this year.

7 mins is pretty high goal for a beginner! That's 1:45/500m! Some
people (particularly those who don't pack a lot of mass) can hardly
supersede that in their best-shape, let alone be a 1 year goal for a
beginner.

I wouldn't recommend setting a specific time limit on a rower machine
now. The time you achieve largely depends on body constitution and
mass and in comparison to others does not accurately represent your
level of fitness. What you should do is test yourself for 2000 or
30mins and then try to improve that time. If you can improve 15 (maybe
20) seconds on your 500m split in a year (that's 1 (1:20) mins in
2000m race), you'd be doing a great job!

Just understand that you can achieve that much of improvement only in
your first year. Later, your progress will be slower cause you'll
already be in shape.

IMHO rowing (much more enjoyable than in-door rower, btw) is one of
the best sports to get in shape in terms strength, stamina/fitness and
mental focus. Concept2 has a great website with lots of info...
(www.concept2.com)

Regards,
Goran Tomas

------------------
"The only stupid question is the one which is never asked. For
enlightenment has been lost."

"Alabaster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would
serve as a focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me
motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's
bad on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for
less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training, fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
toughness, focus, determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional", "big",
"strength", "fat loss", "aerobic stamina" and a few other things, too -
all at once.

For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't get bigger
unless you're really scrawny and you certainly won't get "big" by
anyone's standard, but you'll get strong, lean, mentally +tough, and
have plenty of stamina. It's a sport where you do maximum reps non-stop
for 10 minutes, putting one or two 70 lb. kettlebells overhead by means
of a [censored] or jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan Radovic", a guy who puts
40 lb. dumbbells overhead for seemingly endless reps.

Other strength/endurance hybrids are pretty easy to come up with, too,
e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in the deadlift,
or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same time. These sorts of things are
"less-traditional" and can get you a lot of strength and a lot of
endurance/stamina at the same time.

Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've never done the
50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just heard about it.

Those are my "creative ideas."

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Steve Freides said:

You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional", "big",

Listen to "the tiny ballerina" on the "big" part, he's an expert on
that.

Steve Freides said:

"Alabaster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would
serve as a focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me
motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find running
boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for
less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training, fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
toughness, focus, determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional", "big",
"strength", "fat loss", "aerobic stamina" and a few other things, too
- all at once.

Well, ignoring the "less-traditional" I could provide a 5 day program (3
days weight/2 days aerobic alternated with 2 days weight/3 days aerobic)
which I have used over the last 3-4 years to achieve all of the above.

e.g.
Month one:
Mon: weights [legs/shoulders]
Tue: aerobic fitness on Concept2 [e.g. 10x250m with 2 mins rest]
Wed: weights [chest/triceps]
Thu: weights [back/biceps]
Fri: aerobic fitness on Concept2

Month two:
Mon: aerobic fitness on Concept2
Tue: [legs/chest/triceps]
Wed: aerobic fitness on Concept2
Thu: weights [back/shoulders/biceps]
Fri: aerobic fitness on Concept2

Quoted message said:

For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't get bigger
unless you're really scrawny and you certainly won't get "big" by
anyone's standard, but you'll get strong, lean, mentally +tough, and
have plenty of stamina. It's a sport where you do maximum reps
non-stop for 10 minutes, putting one or two 70 lb. kettlebells
overhead by means of a [censored] or jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan
Radovic", a guy who puts 40 lb. dumbbells overhead for seemingly
endless reps.
Other strength/endurance hybrids are pretty easy to come up with, too,
e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in the
deadlift, or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same time. These sorts
of things are "less-traditional" and can get you a lot of strength
and a lot of endurance/stamina at the same time.

Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've never done the
50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just heard about it.

Those are my "creative ideas."

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
Supps: http://www.myprotein.co.uk - 5% off with my discount code MP4858

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

"Bully" <neil_simpson@spam-me-not_btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Steve Freides said:

"Alabaster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would
serve as a focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me
motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find running
boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for
less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to
win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training, fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
toughness, focus, determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional", "big",
"strength", "fat loss", "aerobic stamina" and a few other things, too
- all at once.

Well, ignoring the "less-traditional" I could provide a 5 day program
(3 days weight/2 days aerobic alternated with 2 days weight/3 days
aerobic) which I have used over the last 3-4 years to achieve all of
the above.

e.g.
Month one:
Mon: weights [legs/shoulders]
Tue: aerobic fitness on Concept2 [e.g. 10x250m with 2 mins rest]
Wed: weights [chest/triceps]
Thu: weights [back/biceps]
Fri: aerobic fitness on Concept2

Month two:
Mon: aerobic fitness on Concept2
Tue: [legs/chest/triceps]
Wed: aerobic fitness on Concept2
Thu: weights [back/shoulders/biceps]
Fri: aerobic fitness on Concept2

Are you, like, following me around lately, dude? I mean, like, it's a
little freaky, you know?

And haven't we had the "you can't build muscle and lose fat at the same
time unless you're a newbie" conversation on this newsgroup many times
before? Right after the "no program works forever" conversation, I
think.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't get bigger
unless you're really scrawny and you certainly won't get "big" by
anyone's standard, but you'll get strong, lean, mentally +tough, and
have plenty of stamina. It's a sport where you do maximum reps
non-stop for 10 minutes, putting one or two 70 lb. kettlebells
overhead by means of a [censored] or jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan
Radovic", a guy who puts 40 lb. dumbbells overhead for seemingly
endless reps.
Other strength/endurance hybrids are pretty easy to come up with,
too,
e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in the
deadlift, or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same time. These sorts
of things are "less-traditional" and can get you a lot of strength
and a lot of endurance/stamina at the same time.

Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've never done
the
50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just heard about it.

Those are my "creative ideas."

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
Supps: http://www.myprotein.co.uk - 5% off with my discount code
MP4858

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Alabaster said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you expect people who
don't know you to set such a personal goal for you? If you're not even
motivated enough to come up with your own idea, I doubt you're going to
have what it takes to achieve much of anything.

"John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alabaster said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional

options.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you expect people who
don't know you to set such a personal goal for you? If you're not even
motivated enough to come up with your own idea, I doubt you're going to
have what it takes to achieve much of anything.

To the original OP: Ignore this [censored]. She's a troll that NEVER posts
anything worth while.

To the original OP - I have a creative idea for you. Try wanking with your
left hand.

"John" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alabaster said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I
would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional

options.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength
training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you expect people who
don't know you to set such a personal goal for you? If you're not even
motivated enough to come up with your own idea, I doubt you're going to
have what it takes to achieve much of anything.

To the original OP: Ignore this [censored]. She's a troll that NEVER posts
anything worth while.

To the original OP - I have a creative idea for you. Try wanking with your
left hand.

dear frd i have go through u r mail and find u can reduce fat and can
come in shape, its not neccessary to do the some running , and merathon
but u can just fine out u r energy intake and expenditure . means
balance in calory intake and out put wil help u to reduce the fate.

u r
piyush

note;
send u r diet and routine chart
Alabaster wrote

Quoted message said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

Thanks,
chris.

dear frd i have go through u r mail and find u can reduce fat and can
come in shape, its not neccessary to do the some running , and merathon
but u can just fine out u r energy intake and expenditure . means
balance in calory intake and out put wil help u to reduce the fate.

u r
piyush

note;
send u r diet and routine chart
Alabaster wrote

Quoted message said:

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to set a
specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps spiritual feat I would
like to achieve after about 1 year of training. This would serve as a
focus for my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon,"
but I really have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a mountain."
Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably too much for me to
accomplish in one year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for myself? I'd
like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able to lift this many
pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this outfit" or "I'd like to win
this competition." I am looking for a combination of strength training,
fat loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

Thanks,
chris.