somebody help Bob (this one)

Tonya' Ton(nospam)@radz.net said:

Why do you search for things to insult people on? What do you get
out of it?

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no
apparent reason? I had read his posts before today and found them
interesting. Now I am the victim of his insults, so of course I feel
a little
different.

Possible reasons:
1) He's pure evil.
2) A woman named Tonya abused him horribly when he was younger and
you're paying for her crimes.
3) Your statements concerning blood types and diet are silly enough to

provoke someone used to dealing in fact - especially when
you persist in your opinions despite an attempt to correct them.

Question: Why is Bob "interesting" until he calls you to task for
things you've posted?

Curious,
Carmen

"Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Tonya' Ton(nospam)@radz.net said:

Why do you search for things to insult people on? What do you get
out of it?

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no
apparent reason? I had read his posts before today and found them
interesting. Now I am the victim of his insults, so of course I feel
a little
different.

Possible reasons:
1) He's pure evil.

heehee

Quoted message said:

2) A woman named Tonya abused him horribly when he was younger and
you're paying for her crimes.

I can believe this.

Quoted message said:

3) Your statements concerning blood types and diet are silly enough to

provoke someone used to dealing in fact -

fact? Okay

Quoted message said:

especially when you persist in your opinions despite an attempt to correct

them.

I dont see my opinions as being silly. They are just opinions. And I dont
think I was persistant. I felt he was persistant in trying to fight with me.
I admitted I was ignorant in this stuff, just that it made sense to me.

Quoted message said:

Question: Why is Bob "interesting" until he calls you to task for
things you've posted?

He seems very inteligent. Rude, but inteligent. Some of his points are
interresting. "Calling me task" would be catching me in a lie or proving I
am wrong about something, what he did just frlt like he was attacking. You
can make someone realise they are wrong without the insults. He does not
need to claim I am not smart, he does not need to make fun of me. It's like
he is still in elementary school. There is no need for that, at that point,
I admitted I was wrong. Why continue to insult and make fun?

I really thought the people on this board were nice. But I see the majority
just poke and prod at people.

Thanks for the reply.
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

Perhaps he enjoys tilting at the windmills of believing that idiots can
comprehend a coherent argument, and can learn to respond in kind.

I don't know why he bothers.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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"Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Tonya' Ton(nospam)@radz.net said:

Why do you search for things to insult people on? What do you get
out of it?

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no
apparent reason? I had read his posts before today and found them
interesting. Now I am the victim of his insults, so of course I feel
a little
different.

Possible reasons:
1) He's pure evil.

heehee

Quoted message said:

2) A woman named Tonya abused him horribly when he was younger and
you're paying for her crimes.

I can believe this.

Quoted message said:

3) Your statements concerning blood types and diet are silly enough to

provoke someone used to dealing in fact -

fact? Okay

Quoted message said:

especially when you persist in your opinions despite an attempt to correct

them.

I dont see my opinions as being silly. They are just opinions. And I dont
think I was persistant. I felt he was persistant in trying to fight with
me.
I admitted I was ignorant in this stuff, just that it made sense to me.

Quoted message said:

Question: Why is Bob "interesting" until he calls you to task for
things you've posted?

He seems very inteligent. Rude, but inteligent. Some of his points are
interresting. "Calling me task" would be catching me in a lie or proving I
am wrong about something, what he did just frlt like he was attacking. You
can make someone realise they are wrong without the insults. He does not
need to claim I am not smart, he does not need to make fun of me. It's
like
he is still in elementary school. There is no need for that, at that
point,
I admitted I was wrong. Why continue to insult and make fun?

I really thought the people on this board were nice. But I see the
majority
just poke and prod at people.

Thanks for the reply.
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

Tonya' Ton(nospam)@radz.net said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for
no apparent reason? I had read his posts before today and found
them interesting. Now I am the victim of his insults, so of
course I
feel a little
different.

Possible reasons:
1) He's pure evil.

heehee

Quoted message said:

2) A woman named Tonya abused him horribly when he was younger and
you're paying for her crimes.

I can believe this.

Quoted message said:

3) Your statements concerning blood types and diet are silly
enough to provoke someone used to dealing in fact -

fact? Okay

Quoted message said:

especially when you persist in your opinions despite an attempt to
correct them.

I dont see my opinions as being silly. They are just opinions. And I
dont think I was persistant. I felt he was persistant in trying to
fight
with me.
I admitted I was ignorant in this stuff, just that it made sense to
me.

Your opinion involved the defense of a particular book, and the theory
behind it.
The book was ostensibly scientific in approach, not philosophical. In
such a
venue opinion has no place. Facts rule the roost. Bob tried to point
you
towards material that you could look up for yourself that would have
lead
you to discover the "why this is wrong" for yourself. D'Adamo got
some very
basic things wrong - upon which he then proceeds to construct his
house of cards.
Heck, even his version of human history would garner him a rotten
grade in most
freshman courses.

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Quoted message said:

Question: Why is Bob "interesting" until he calls you to task for
things you've posted?

He seems very inteligent. Rude, but inteligent. Some of his points
are interresting. "Calling me task" would be catching me in a lie or
proving I am wrong about something, what he did just frlt like he
was
attacking. You can make someone realise they are wrong without the
insults. He does
not need to claim I am not smart, he does not need to make fun of
me.
It's like he is still in elementary school. There is no need for
that, at that
point, I admitted I was wrong. Why continue to insult and make fun?

Bob started out calmly telling you that D'Adamo was wrong. The
insults started
only after you persisted in championing your "opinion". Look back at
the thread in
question. You never admitted you were wrong. You claimed it was your
"opinion"
and said that in general people decide who to listen to when
considering an issue
with conflicting viewpoints.

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I really thought the people on this board were nice. But I see the
majority just poke and prod at people.

That's not the way things are, Tonya. People who challenge incorrect
information
aren't just being mean. If you want nothing but unchallenged (and
unchallenging usually)
conversation there are plenty of venues for that all over the 'net.
Usenet isn't one of them.
If you want to learn and are ready to risk having some of your
misconceptions
about low carb smashed then this is a good place to do it. Support
isn't always
fuzzy slippers, kittens and rainbows.

take care,
Carmen

Tonya said:

I dont see my opinions as being silly. They are just opinions. And I dont
think I was persistant. I felt he was persistant in trying to fight with me.
I admitted I was ignorant in this stuff, just that it made sense to me.

Opinions that "make sense" to ignorant people keep quacks like those
who sell colon "cleansers" and toxin "flushes" in business.

--
jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Tonya wrote:
|| "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
|||
||| On 1-Sep-2004, "Tonya" <Ton(nospam)@radz.net> wrote:
|||
|||| Why do you search for things to insult people on? What do you get
|||| out of it?
||||
|||| Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no
|||| apparent reason? I had read his posts before today and found them
|||| interesting. Now I am the victim of his insults, so of course I
|||| feel
|||| a little
|||| different.
|||
||| Possible reasons:
||| 1) He's pure evil.
||
|| heehee
||
||| 2) A woman named Tonya abused him horribly when he was younger and
||| you're paying for her crimes.
||
|| I can believe this.
||
||| 3) Your statements concerning blood types and diet are silly enough
||| to
|||
||| provoke someone used to dealing in fact -
||
|| fact? Okay
||
||| especially when you persist in your opinions despite an attempt to
||| correct them.
||
|| I dont see my opinions as being silly. They are just opinions. And I
|| dont think I was persistant. I felt he was persistant in trying to
|| fight with me. I admitted I was ignorant in this stuff, just that it
|| made sense to me.
|||
||| Question: Why is Bob "interesting" until he calls you to task for
||| things you've posted?
||
|| He seems very inteligent. Rude, but inteligent. Some of his points
|| are interresting. "Calling me task" would be catching me in a lie or
|| proving I am wrong about something, what he did just frlt like he
|| was attacking. You can make someone realise they are wrong without
|| the insults. He does not need to claim I am not smart, he does not
|| need to make fun of me. It's like he is still in elementary school.
|| There is no need for that, at that point, I admitted I was wrong.
|| Why continue to insult and make fun?
||
|| I really thought the people on this board were nice. But I see the
|| majority just poke and prod at people.

people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

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From: "Roger Zoul"
people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

Honestly. I think I did at first. Everyone is not nice. Everyone is not going
to like you. That's OK though. Its how it is. Reality.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Atkins since 1/17/04
CCLL 40
267/185/135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As you free yourself from the past, your energy becomes available for the
present.

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

From: "Roger Zoul"
people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

Honestly. I think I did at first. Everyone is not nice. Everyone is not
going
to like you. That's OK though. Its how it is. Reality.

Yeah, but it's a lot worse on usenet because most people won't tell you
stuff to your face that they'll write down when they don't know where you
are or who you are.

--
Bob in CT
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Yes, but at least when they insult you on Usenet, they're not sitting
next to you drinking your good wine and things like that while doing it.
:-)

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Bob in CT wrote in message ...

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Yeah, but it's a lot worse on usenet because most people won't tell you
stuff to your face that they'll write down when they don't know where

you

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are or who you are.

--
Bob in CT
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:37:08 -0700, Cheri <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Yes, but at least when they insult you on Usenet, they're not sitting
next to you drinking your good wine and things like that while doing it.
:-)

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

That's true!

--
Bob in CT
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Tonya said:

Bob,

Why do you search for things to insult people on?

No searching needed, Tonya. People bring stupid stuff to me on silver
trays. Like your "blood type diet" that you think makes sense.

Quoted message said:

What do you get out of it?

The same kind of pleasure a child gets seeing a clown explode. <did I
say that out loud...?>

Quoted message said:

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no apparent
reason? I had read his posts before today and found them interesting. Now I
am the victim of his insults, so of course I feel a little different.

You persist in believing that your opinion without support has
validity in a discourse that you say has a scientific background.
You're wrong.

The countering information to that ridiculous diet you're championing
is freely available to anyone who actually wants to know the real
science. You have steadfastly refused to consider it, all the while
whining about how you're being put upon. Both are tiresome.

Quoted message said:

I am sure he will have an insulting comment on this matter too. So far I
haven't seen him to be supportive. I just want to know the purpose.

The purpose of my notes to you have been to make sure that no one else
buys the [censored] flowing out of that book and your head. You're wrong and
you're a whiny lightweight.

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Thanks for your support.

I used to wear an athletic supporter. I thanked it on several occasions.

Go find out why the "blood type diet" is simply wrong and we'll talk
with more civility. And quit whining.

Pastorio

Quoted message said:

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

From: "Roger Zoul"
people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

Honestly. I think I did at first. Everyone is not nice. Everyone is not
going
to like you. That's OK though. Its how it is. Reality.

Yeah, but it's a lot worse on usenet because most people won't tell you
stuff to your face that they'll write down when they don't know where you
are or who you are.

--
Bob in CT
Remove ".x" to reply

Yeah true. I can usually handle the good and the bad. Sometimes I need a wake
up call. I don't think you ever been mean to me.

Quoted message said:

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

From: "Roger Zoul"
people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

Honestly. I think I did at first. Everyone is not nice. Everyone is not
going
to like you. That's OK though. Its how it is. Reality.

Yeah, but it's a lot worse on usenet because most people won't tell you
stuff to your face that they'll write down when they don't know where you
are or who you are.

--
Bob in CT
Remove ".x" to reply

Yeah true. I can usually handle the good and the bad. Sometimes I need a wake
up call. I don't think you ever been mean to me.

Bob in CT said:

On 02 Sep 2004 14:45:59 GMT, Sunshyne <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From: "Roger Zoul"
people in here come from all of the world....surely you don't expect
everyone to be "nice" do you? If so, you won't be happy on usenet.

Honestly. I think I did at first. Everyone is not nice. Everyone is not
going
to like you. That's OK though. Its how it is. Reality.

Quoted message said:

Yeah, but it's a lot worse on usenet because most people won't tell you
stuff to your face that they'll write down when they don't know where you
are or who you are.

Or, perhaps more to the point, when YOU don't know who they are or where
they are. Online forums confer relative anonymity (although far less than
people like to imagine). Anonymity is like too much beer, it can bring
out a side of a person that is sometimes better left hidden.

Dan (whose hidden side isn't nearly as brilliantly funny as he thinks it
is at the time)

325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

have just realized that you may have missed my first post replying to
someone else about the blood type diet. First of all, I am not on that diet,
I am on Atkins. Second, I believe you about there not being any scientific
background. I did not say there was. In fact, after your very first post
before this got out of hand I looked for anything else on this diet and
could find none. I AGREEEEE WITH YOU!!!!!! 🙂 The only point I really made
is it makes sense to me. But who cares if it makes sense to me? I am on
Atkins, it really doesn't matter.

oh, and your comments on my forum were a little out of line and completely
off subject. It's a very nice forum that has just been started. It needs
time to grow. The sex thing is a default if members do not enter their sex.

I am not an argumentative person. Truthfully, as you have witnessed, I don't
know how to argue. My apologies.

Now can we go back to the beginning and start over?
Hi, I'm Tonya. Nice to meet you.

hugs,
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tonya said:

Bob,

Why do you search for things to insult people on?

No searching needed, Tonya. People bring stupid stuff to me on silver
trays. Like your "blood type diet" that you think makes sense.

Quoted message said:

What do you get out of it?

The same kind of pleasure a child gets seeing a clown explode. <did I say
that out loud...?>

Quoted message said:

Will someone else share with me why this guy must insult me for no
apparent
reason? I had read his posts before today and found them interesting. Now
I
am the victim of his insults, so of course I feel a little different.

You persist in believing that your opinion without support has validity in
a discourse that you say has a scientific background. You're wrong.

The countering information to that ridiculous diet you're championing is
freely available to anyone who actually wants to know the real science.
You have steadfastly refused to consider it, all the while whining about
how you're being put upon. Both are tiresome.

Quoted message said:

I am sure he will have an insulting comment on this matter too. So far I
haven't seen him to be supportive. I just want to know the purpose.

The purpose of my notes to you have been to make sure that no one else
buys the [censored] flowing out of that book and your head. You're wrong and
you're a whiny lightweight.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for your support.

I used to wear an athletic supporter. I thanked it on several occasions.

Go find out why the "blood type diet" is simply wrong and we'll talk with
more civility. And quit whining.

Pastorio

"Tonya" <Ton(nospam)@radz.net> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

have just realized that you may have missed my first post replying to
someone else about the blood type diet. First of all, I am not on that

diet,

Quoted message said:

I am on Atkins. Second, I believe you about there not being any scientific
background. I did not say there was. In fact, after your very first post
before this got out of hand I looked for anything else on this diet and
could find none. I AGREEEEE WITH YOU!!!!!! 🙂 The only point I really made
is it makes sense to me. But who cares if it makes sense to me? I am on
Atkins, it really doesn't matter.

oh, and your comments on my forum were a little out of line and completely
off subject. It's a very nice forum that has just been started. It needs
time to grow. The sex thing is a default if members do not enter their

sex.

Quoted message said:

I am not an argumentative person. Truthfully, as you have witnessed, I

don't

Quoted message said:

know how to argue. My apologies.

Now can we go back to the beginning and start over?
Hi, I'm Tonya. Nice to meet you.

hugs,
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

DOn't you people understand that you are arguing about trivial [censored]?

"Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Tonya" <Ton(nospam)@radz.net> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

have just realized that you may have missed my first post replying to
someone else about the blood type diet. First of all, I am not on that

diet,

Quoted message said:

I am on Atkins. Second, I believe you about there not being any
scientific
background. I did not say there was. In fact, after your very first post
before this got out of hand I looked for anything else on this diet and
could find none. I AGREEEEE WITH YOU!!!!!! 🙂 The only point I really
made
is it makes sense to me. But who cares if it makes sense to me? I am on
Atkins, it really doesn't matter.

oh, and your comments on my forum were a little out of line and
completely
off subject. It's a very nice forum that has just been started. It needs
time to grow. The sex thing is a default if members do not enter their

sex.

Quoted message said:

I am not an argumentative person. Truthfully, as you have witnessed, I

don't

Quoted message said:

know how to argue. My apologies.

Now can we go back to the beginning and start over?
Hi, I'm Tonya. Nice to meet you.

hugs,
Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

DOn't you people understand that you are arguing about trivial [censored]?

well said, 😉 Thank you.

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"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Tonya said:

"Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Tonya" <Ton(nospam)@radz.net> wrote in message
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> have just realized that you may have missed my first post
> replying to someone else about the blood type diet. First of
> all, I am not on that diet,

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Quoted message said:

> I am on Atkins. Second, I believe you about there not being any
> scientific background. I did not say there was. In fact, after
> your very first post before this got out of hand I looked for
> anything else on this diet and could find none. I AGREEEEE
> WITH YOU!!!!!! 🙂 The only point I really made is it makes
> sense to me.

<LOL> It's utterly invalid but it makes sense. Good thinking.

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Quoted message said:

> But who cares if it makes sense to me? I am on Atkins, it
> really doesn't matter.
>
> oh, and your comments on my forum were a little out of line and
> completely off subject.

Free speech is a wonderful thing. It lets us meet online and exchange
views. What a wonderful technology.

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Quoted message said:

> It's a very nice forum that has just been started.

"Very nice."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> It needs time to grow. The sex thing is a default if members do
> not enter their sex.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I am not an argumentative person. Truthfully, as you have
> witnessed, I don't know how to argue. My apologies.

No apologies necessary. Your words make it all very clear. It's not so
much that you don't know how to argue, it's that you don't know how to
investigate or research before having opinions. ANd once having the
information handed to you, you don't know how to say ooops.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Now can we go back to the beginning and start over? Hi, I'm
> Tonya. Nice to meet you.
> hugs, Tonya www.lowcarbcrew.com
>
DOn't you people understand that you are arguing about trivial
[censored]?

Chacun a son gout...

Quoted message said:

well said, 😉 Thank you.

Yet you continue long after everyone else stops... <LOL>

"Yep. I found my lost keys. They were in the third from last place I
looked..."

Pastorio

I suppose Tonya should learn to argue like you Bob, where once someone
sites an irrefutable source to prove you incorrect, you then resort to
calling them a [censored], like you did with me another thread. She's
right, you have no manners and a very fragile ego.

Chet Hayes said:

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tonya said:

"Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Tonya" <Ton(nospam)@radz.net> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>
>> have just realized that you may have missed my first post
>> replying to someone else about the blood type diet. First
>> of all, I am not on that diet,

Quoted message said:

>> I am on Atkins. Second, I believe you about there not being
>> any scientific background. I did not say there was. In
>> fact, after your very first post before this got out of
>> hand I looked for anything else on this diet and could find
>> none. I AGREEEEE WITH YOU!!!!!! 🙂 The only point I really
>> made is it makes sense to me.

<LOL> It's utterly invalid but it makes sense. Good thinking.

Quoted message said:

>> But who cares if it makes sense to me? I am on Atkins, it
>> really doesn't matter.
>>
>> oh, and your comments on my forum were a little out of line
>> and completely off subject.

Free speech is a wonderful thing. It lets us meet online and
exchange views. What a wonderful technology.

Quoted message said:

>> It's a very nice forum that has just been started.

"Very nice."

Quoted message said:

>> It needs time to grow. The sex thing is a default if
>> members do not enter their sex.

Quoted message said:

>> I am not an argumentative person. Truthfully, as you have
>> witnessed, I don't know how to argue. My apologies.

No apologies necessary. Your words make it all very clear. It's
not so much that you don't know how to argue, it's that you don't
know how to investigate or research before having opinions. ANd
once having the information handed to you, you don't know how to
say ooops.

Quoted message said:

>> Now can we go back to the beginning and start over? Hi, I'm
>> Tonya. Nice to meet you. hugs, Tonya www.lowcarbcrew.com
>>
> DOn't you people understand that you are arguing about
> trivial [censored]?

Chacun a son gout...

Quoted message said:

well said, 😉 Thank you.

Yet you continue long after everyone else stops... <LOL>

"Yep. I found my lost keys. They were in the third from last
place I looked..."

Pastorio

I suppose Tonya should learn to argue like you Bob,

Actually, it isn't about arguing at all, just as it hasn't been about
that with you in "another thread" you mention. I said to Tonya above:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's not so much that you don't know how to argue, it's that you
don't know how to investigate or research before having opinions.
ANd once having the information handed to you, you don't know how
to say ooops.

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where once
someone sites an irrefutable source to prove you incorrect,

You mean like when I cited *why* the blood type diet made no sense...?

Or are you trying to wiggle out from under need to say Ooops. your
assertion that curdling cheese happened *only* because of bacterial
infusion? Or that all cheeses are made from fermented milk? Your
"irrefutable source" about cheese didn't quite agree with your
pronouncements, and I'm sorry since it's apparently such an urgent
thing that you be *absolutely* correct. I'm desolated at having
thwarted that, however inadvertently.

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you then resort to calling them a [censored], like you did with me
another thread.

<LOL> <trumpet fanfare> Chet Hayes has come to explain the nuances of
etiquette, demonstrate his limited literacy and take another shot.
Poor Chet thinks that when I said that he had asked "a [censored]
question" that somehow it said that he was a [censored]. Well, Chet,
unfortunately, while I didn't call you a [censored], you're certainly
acting like one. I think the committee will be handing down a decision
on that question later today. It doesn't look good for you.

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She's right, you have no manners and a very fragile ego.

<LOL> Not only a cheesy cheesemaker, but a cheesy psychologist, too.

Pastorio