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  1. Speed is relative. I'm not convinced everything else is. But
    speed is. The slowest Trabant is faster than me on a a
    really good day.

    However, within the constraints of the system, age,
    physics, and all that, I find that I am still somewhat
    drawn to the call of speed. I'm not in my 20's any more,
    and I'd like to think I have the larger part of my ego
    under control. I don't mind riding at whatever pace the
    group I'm with chooses.

    So what is it.

    First there is the challenge. Like the old joke about how if
    it had been intended that man should fly, he'd have been
    given the brains to invent the airplane, I want to see how
    "clean" I can make my bike. I want to see how much power I
    can get out of my engine, and I want to see how efficiently
    I can use that power. I want to see; I want to try.

    Note to the novice: power is not technique is not knowledge.
    It is the challenge of applying skill - and brains - that
    appeals to me.

    Second, there is the world, my world. My time for riding is
    squeezed between other more important things. I don't mind
    this, but every mile per hour I gain, expands my world by a
    couple miles in the morning before work. Too slow and I am
    limited to one road. All the time. This is dull and
    unrewarding.

    Not many think of touring as a race, but it is. The day will
    end, and 3mph might be the difference between a sleeping bag
    in a corn field eating backup rations and a hot shower with
    a phone call home. Climb a pass in the Rockies during
    monsoon season, and the loss of 1-2mph might have
    significant consequences. Do you really want to be on the
    top of Loveland Pass when the afternoon T-storm shows up? Me
    neither, not again. Even on my commute, 1-2mph allows me to
    take an alternate route, maybe with less traffic, maybe
    along the river in the park, or maybe it makes running
    errands on the other side of town a real possibility instead
    of merely a theoretical one.

    For some of us non-racers there is a legitimacy to the quest
    for speed. It changes my view of the world; it allows me to
    more fully enjoy my stolen moments outdoors. It feeds my
    curiosity, it drives me to eat better, to exercise smarter,
    to treat my "engine" more kindly. Can these be bad things?

  2. "Howard" <bishop(1199bitshiftleft1)@yazhooz.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Speed is relative. I'm not convinced everything else is.
    But speed is. The slowest Trabant is faster than me on a a
    really good day.

    You are right that speed is relative. A turtle is quite fast
    compared to a slug or a snail. However, other things are
    also relative. When it comes to human behavior, the biggest
    relativity issue is age. Age has to do with the number of
    years you have spent on this planet above ground.

    Quoted message said:

    However, within the constraints of the system, age,
    physics, and all that, I find that I am still somewhat
    drawn to the call of speed. I'm not in my 20's any more,
    and I'd like to think I have the larger part of my ego
    under control. I don't mind riding at whatever pace the
    group I'm with chooses.

    When you are in your 60's and 70's you will realize that
    speeed is for the young. Instead, you will be thankful if
    you can just get out of bed in the morning and trundle
    yourself over to the breakfast table in order to get a bit
    of nouirishment so that you can do the same thing all over
    the next day. Yea! Life is good - and do not let anyone ever
    tell you otherwise! What the

    Quoted message said:

    So what is it.

    First there is the challenge. Like the old joke about how
    if it had been intended that man should fly, he'd have
    been given the brains to invent the airplane, I want to
    see how "clean" I can make my bike. I want to see how
    much power I can get out of my engine, and I want to see
    how efficiently I can use that power. I want to see; I
    want to try.

    No, all that challenge [censored] is for the young who are still
    trying to find themselves. If and when you ever get to be
    over 40, you will just want to be able to breath in and out
    and move about however slowly. The main thing is to stay out
    of the grave for as long as possible.Because when you are
    dead, you are dead for all eternity. Every fool who has ever
    lived knows this if he does not ever know anything else.

    Quoted message said:

    Note to the novice: power is not technique is not
    knowledge. It is the challenge of applying skill - and
    brains - that appeals to me.

    Screw the challenge! Most people go to the airport and get
    on a jet airplane if they want to experience power. The take-
    offs are especially invigorating.

    Quoted message said:

    Second, there is the world, my world. My time for riding
    is squeezed between other more important things. I don't
    mind this, but every mile per hour I gain, expands my
    world by a couple miles in the morning before work. Too
    slow and I am limited to one road. All the time. This is
    dull and unrewarding.

    Try going slower and slower. You will live longer and see
    some flowers along the way. There is nothing duller and more
    unrewarding in this world than to speed through it and not
    see anything except your own computer telliing you how fast
    you are going. Again, you have got to learn to screw this
    speed thing. It is total insanity.

    Look at all the [censored] on this newsgroup who are into
    speed. They prove

    not have the brains they were born with. What gets said
    here on ARBR with respect to speed should be an object
    lesson to us all.

    Quoted message said:

    Not many think of touring as a race, but it is. The day
    will end, and 3mph might be the difference between a
    sleeping bag in a corn field eating backup rations and a
    hot shower with a phone call home. Climb a pass in the
    Rockies during monsoon season, and the loss of 1-2mph
    might have significant consequences. Do you really want to
    be on the top of Loveland Pass when the afternoon T-storm
    shows up? Me neither, not again. Even on my commute, 1-
    2mph allows me to take an alternate route, maybe with less
    traffic, maybe along the river in the park, or maybe it
    makes running errands on the other side of town a real
    possibility instead of merely a theoretical one.

    Howard, you are completely insane! You know that don't you?
    A tour is never a race. It is the furthest thing from it.
    Howard, you are completely insane! You know that don't you?

    My best advice to you is just to stay home and do not even
    think about going out on the road. Surely there are things
    you can do in your own home that will not drive you as crazy
    as you have become from cycling. If you must ride your bike,
    maybe a quick turn or two about your neighborhood will
    suffice. More than that and you go nuts!

    Quoted message said:

    For some of us non-racers there is a legitimacy to the
    quest for speed. It changes my view of the world; it
    allows me to more fully enjoy my stolen moments outdoors.
    It feeds my curiosity, it drives me to eat better, to
    exercise smarter, to treat my "engine" more kindly. Can
    these be bad things?

    See my paragraph just above. I can only add that you should
    definitely see a psychiatrist about your obsession with
    speed.on a bicycle.

    The moral of the story here is that cycling is not a
    suitable activity for everyone as it apparently can drive
    you crazy with the lust for speed. Howard is a pitiful case
    indeed and I do feel sorry for him. He knows not what he
    knows not. But worse than that, he is trying to convert us
    sane and sensible folk to his cockeyed view. It is a good
    thing that I am here to set all of you straight.

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  3. "There is more to life than increasing its speed." --
    Mohandas Ghandi

  4. "LioNiNoiL_a t_NetscapE_D 0 T_NeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:xRknc.99281$Jy3.90952@fed1read03...

    Quoted message said:

    "There is more to life than increasing its speed." --
    Mohandas Ghandi

    Mr. Tom is always quoting Ghandi - which more often than
    not I have to take exception to because of the context
    in which Mr. Tom is placing the quotation. But here is
    one quotation from Ghandi in this context that I agree
    with 100%!

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  5. LioNiNoiL_a t_NetscapE_D 0 T_NeT <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:xRknc.99281$Jy3.90952@fed1read03:

    Quoted message said:

    "There is more to life than increasing its speed." --
    Mohandas Ghandi

    No argument. Didn't say it was for everyone.

  6. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Howard
    LioNiNoiL_a t_NetscapE_D 0 T_NeT <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:xRknc.99281$Jy3.90952@fed1read03:

    Quoted message said:

    "There is more to life than increasing its speed." --
    Mohandas Ghandi



    No argument. Didn't say it was for everyone.

    Since you are so easy going here Howard,I would like to throw this out there.I added a couple of electric bikes to my growing fleet.I find that they are a lot of fun and I have used them for commuting. The thing is for me,my knee and hip just won't take the abuse that they use to.Electric bikes just make sense to me,although I wish they were recumbents and not ,well you know, like those other kind.

  7. Howard wrote [mildly reordered for emphasis]:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not in my 20's any more... However, within the
    constraints of the system, age, physics, and all that, I
    find that I am still somewhat drawn to the call of
    speed... So what is it...

    To which the always aridly erudite Edward Dolan rashly
    replied:

    Quoted message said:

    When you are in your 60's and 70's you will realize that
    speeed is for the young... What... does speed have to do
    with anything?

    For one purely personal perspective - perhaps both poetic
    and prosaic - of a pedaler (well past puberty), you might
    enjoy a peek at this piece:

    factorydeluxe.com000116.
    html

    Regards, Wayne Leggett LoGo Trikes USA

  8. LoGo Trikes USA said:

    For one purely personal perspective - perhaps both poetic
    and prosaic - of a pedaler (well past puberty), you might
    enjoy a peek at this piece:

    factorydeluxe.com00011
    6.html

    Or one might consult Mr. M. Burrows who, although his
    sixtieth birthday is history, is still actively racing both
    recumbents and uprights (and, I might add, is a skinny as a
    thin thing after a prolonged period on hunger strike).

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  9. "LoGo Trikes USA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Howard wrote [mildly reordered for emphasis]:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not in my 20's any more... However, within the
    constraints of the system, age, physics, and all that, I
    find that I am still somewhat drawn to the call of
    speed... So what is it...

    To which the always aridly erudite Edward Dolan rashly
    replied:

    Quoted message said:

    When you are in your 60's and 70's you will realize that
    speeed is for the young... What... does speed have to do
    with anything?

    For one purely personal perspective - perhaps both poetic
    and prosaic - of a pedaler (well past puberty), you might
    enjoy a peek at this piece:

    factorydeluxe.com00011
    6.html

    Regards, Wayne Leggett LoGo Trikes USA

    Wayne, that poem was not only about me, but it could have
    been written by
    me. The only discordant note was that bit about wanting to
    compete again if only ever so slightly. No, those days
    are gone forever and I am perfectly content now to just
    poke along and smell the roses.

    Many thanks for the good poem. I am going to save it to My
    Documents and I may use bits and pieces of it on other
    ARBR'ers in the future, you know, the types that like to go
    fast like Howard. It is far better to be wise than to be
    fast. Unfortunately for the human species, wisdom only seems
    to come with age.

    --
    Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  10. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    LoGo Trikes USA said:

    For one purely personal perspective - perhaps both
    poetic and prosaic - of a pedaler (well past puberty),
    you might enjoy a peek at this piece:

    factorydeluxe.com000
    116.html

    Or one might consult Mr. M. Burrows who, although his
    sixtieth birthday is history, is still actively racing
    both recumbents and uprights (and, I might add, is a
    skinny as a thin thing after a prolonged period on hunger
    strike).

    In a previous post I said it is better to be wise than to be
    fast and I further said that unfortunately for the human
    species wisdom only seems to come with age. However, this is
    not inevitable as the example of Mr. Burrows proves. I
    suspect Dave is also going to follow that bad example
    instead of the path of wisdom which I represent. Jeez! Some
    guys just never grow up!

    --
    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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