Some questions

"Zap" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How far a long in Atkins should one be to drink diet soda leaving out
coke? Im bored with water allready and the alternatives (broth - ugh)
is not my cup of tea. Speaking of wich - why is tea not allowed?

you can have diet soda from the beginning if it doesn't give you cravings.
Try soda with splenda insstead of aspertame. Pretty sure you can have tea, i
don't drink it so I didn't pay attention to that - but it's probably to do
w/caffiene. Drink seltzer, either flavored, plain or with a slice of lemon
or lime.

Did you read the book?

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What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

cheese, beef jerky, celery, cream cheese w/smoked salmon, sugar free jello,
hard boiled eggs, nuts, anything leftover in the fridge, make stuff ahead of
time - like spinach & cheese mini-quiche (crust-less) I like an occasional
atkins bar myself

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How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Tomato sauce? what kind of sauce? you won't be having tomato sauce anyway
and I'll make believe I didn't read that you use flour in it!!! I know
there is soy flours but i don't use them

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Thanks
Zap

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:39:38 +0200, Zap <[email hidden]> wrote:

Have you read the book? You don't need to buy it - you can get it at
the library. Also, read the FAQ for this group, and check into the
Atkins website if that's the plan you choose to follow. If you're
going to do this - you need to inform yourself - don't expect others
to do your research for you.

Lybbe
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 233.2
Goal - 150

Quoted message said:

How far a long in Atkins should one be to drink diet soda leaving out
coke? Im bored with water allready and the alternatives (broth - ugh)
is not my cup of tea. Speaking of wich - why is tea not allowed?

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Thanks
Zap

Zap said:

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Guar gum or xanthan gum - in tiny amounts - can thicken a sauce.

Hi,

Quoted message said:

you can have diet soda from the beginning if it doesn't give you cravings.
Try soda with splenda insstead of aspertame. Pretty sure you can have tea,

i

Quoted message said:

don't drink it so I didn't pay attention to that - but it's probably to do
w/caffiene. Drink seltzer, either flavored, plain or with a slice of lemon
or lime.

Did you read the book?

I read the book and the anti-aspartame sentiments throughout were kind of
confusing. He has try not to have anything with aspartame in it because
some studies have shown it to be bad for you, and that splenda is based on
real sugar and had a 100 trials done before the FDA allowed it. This isn't
really all that convincing to me. While I thought Atikins' book (in
particular the "New Diet Revolution" one) was really well written, and cited
some strong evidence for LCing, his evidence condeming aspartame was non
existent.

Anyways, I was going to start this little rant suggesting that you would be
hard pressed to find a splenda soft drink out there in the main stream, but
[http://www.pbs.org/wsw/news/fortunearticle_20031229_04.html] lists a couple
if you are interested:

Diet RC cola, Starbucks Lite Frappuccino, a light version of Coca-Cola's
Powerade, Ocean Spray Light, Diet V8 Splash, Light Hawaiian Punch, Blue
Bunny ice cream, and Swiss Miss hot cocoa mix.

And supposedly diet coke in Japan. I have a feeling that most of the above
are "low carb" though, and not zero carb like diet coke etc. I personally
found that diet coke and crystal light were both nice.

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cheese, beef jerky, celery, cream cheese w/smoked salmon, sugar free

jello,

The jello is great, but don't go crazy the first couple of weeks because you
won't want to ever eat it again then. Cream cheese spreads with cauliflower
and celery/bok choy work well too.

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hard boiled eggs, nuts, anything leftover in the fridge, make stuff ahead

of

Always keeping a few boiled eggs in the fridge was a trick I found handy --
same advice as the jello though 🙂

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time - like spinach & cheese mini-quiche (crust-less) I like an occasional
atkins bar myself

I highly recommend them as well. The Atkin Advantage bar (esp peanut
butter) is great. At 2 net carbs it fits well, and it is dry enough that
you'll be kicking down some fluids at the same time adding to filling you
up. Watch the Atikins endulge bars though, they are a nice change (taste
like a kit kat) but 4 carbs and smaller than the advntage bar...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

I assume this is a gravy sause you are looking for. Here is a thread that
might help: http://www.lowcarbeating.com/bb/archive/index.php/t-10043

phan

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Hi,

Quoted message said:

you can have diet soda from the beginning if it doesn't give you

cravings.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Try soda with splenda insstead of aspertame. Pretty sure you can have

tea,

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

don't drink it so I didn't pay attention to that - but it's probably to

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

w/caffiene. Drink seltzer, either flavored, plain or with a slice of

lemon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

or lime.

Did you read the book?

I read the book and the anti-aspartame sentiments throughout were kind of
confusing. He has try not to have anything with aspartame in it because
some studies have shown it to be bad for you, and that splenda is based on
real sugar and had a 100 trials done before the FDA allowed it. This

isn't

Quoted message said:

really all that convincing to me. While I thought Atikins' book (in
particular the "New Diet Revolution" one) was really well written, and

cited

Quoted message said:

some strong evidence for LCing, his evidence condeming aspartame was non
existent.

so? - do you believe us usenet wierdos instead? do your own research or eat
what you want! I get cravings from aspertame, i didn't used to - I used to
drink caff free diet pepsi all the time. now it's seltzer, water or soda
with splenda.

Quoted message said:

Anyways, I was going to start this little rant suggesting that you would

be

Quoted message said:

hard pressed to find a splenda soft drink out there in the main stream,

but

Quoted message said:

[http://www.pbs.org/wsw/news/fortunearticle_20031229_04.html] lists a

couple

Quoted message said:

if you are interested:

I buy them all the time, Fairway stocks several brands and the "regular"
local supermarkets have Diet Rite and Waist Watchers. I didn't look at your
link. i think Diet Jones may use Splenda as well - don't remember.

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Diet RC cola, Starbucks Lite Frappuccino, a light version of Coca-Cola's
Powerade, Ocean Spray Light, Diet V8 Splash, Light Hawaiian Punch, Blue
Bunny ice cream, and Swiss Miss hot cocoa mix.

Quoted message said:

And supposedly diet coke in Japan. I have a feeling that most of the

above

Quoted message said:

are "low carb" though, and not zero carb like diet coke etc. I personally
found that diet coke and crystal light were both nice.

Quoted message said:

cheese, beef jerky, celery, cream cheese w/smoked salmon, sugar free

jello,

The jello is great, but don't go crazy the first couple of weeks because

you

Quoted message said:

won't want to ever eat it again then. Cream cheese spreads with

cauliflower

Quoted message said:

and celery/bok choy work well too.

Quoted message said:

hard boiled eggs, nuts, anything leftover in the fridge, make stuff

ahead

Quoted message said:

of

Always keeping a few boiled eggs in the fridge was a trick I found

handy --

Quoted message said:

same advice as the jello though 🙂

Quoted message said:

time - like spinach & cheese mini-quiche (crust-less) I like an

occasional

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

atkins bar myself

I highly recommend them as well. The Atkin Advantage bar (esp peanut
butter) is great. At 2 net carbs it fits well, and it is dry enough that
you'll be kicking down some fluids at the same time adding to filling you
up. Watch the Atikins endulge bars though, they are a nice change (taste
like a kit kat) but 4 carbs and smaller than the advntage bar...

I prefer the Choc Peanut Butter ones too - but Big Lots had the bars for 59
cents each and only in Choc Almond Brownie & Choc Decadence so in the
interest of saving money I bought them and I find them "acceptable" but
nothing to look forward to.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

I assume this is a gravy sause you are looking for. Here is a thread that
might help: http://www.lowcarbeating.com/bb/archive/index.php/t-10043

phan

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I am on day 8 by now and i have read the book -
or most of it but decided to start before i had i chance to finish it
- much like at lot of others here i just felt inspired. But with a
busy schoolday - which in itself requires a lot of reading - im not
quite done yet.

Im glad about the soda. The book says no. By my question i ment if
something had changed. The book is "old". New sweeteners out there.
Perhaps a new product was made.

Tea, i know its bad cuz of the caffeine but why is it that caffeine is
bad? I love coffee and tea and coffee i can get decaf so thats ok but
i miss my tea. Drinks with a flavor *sigh*

Thanks for the tips on snacks. I was kind of looking for something i
could bring with me that wouldnt go bad - im sorry i didnt state that
but the suggestions were nice. I have primarely used pork-rind as a
"bring along" snack but variety would be nice :o) Also they are very
salty and so is the bacon i eat for breakfast so i kind of get
"enough" at some point.

The sauce, yes i meant a gravy style sauce. And thanks for the links.

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

Zap.

Quoted message said:

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Thanks
Zap

Hi! Zap, and welcome,,,,,,,you can ask all the questions you want,,,,,,there
is no 'stupid' questions. I have asked questions myself,,,,and gotten a lot
of help from this group. I have read the book, but not memorized it,,,,so
it's better to ask questions and read the posts every day. Good luck to
you,,,,and keep posting.

--
Started LC Sept 26/04
189/178/125
"Zap" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I am on day 8 by now and i have read the book -
or most of it but decided to start before i had i chance to finish it
- much like at lot of others here i just felt inspired. But with a
busy schoolday - which in itself requires a lot of reading - im not
quite done yet.

Im glad about the soda. The book says no. By my question i ment if
something had changed. The book is "old". New sweeteners out there.
Perhaps a new product was made.

Tea, i know its bad cuz of the caffeine but why is it that caffeine is
bad? I love coffee and tea and coffee i can get decaf so thats ok but
i miss my tea. Drinks with a flavor *sigh*

Thanks for the tips on snacks. I was kind of looking for something i
could bring with me that wouldnt go bad - im sorry i didnt state that
but the suggestions were nice. I have primarely used pork-rind as a
"bring along" snack but variety would be nice :o) Also they are very
salty and so is the bacon i eat for breakfast so i kind of get
"enough" at some point.

The sauce, yes i meant a gravy style sauce. And thanks for the links.

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

Zap.

Quoted message said:

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Thanks
Zap

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

How far a long in Atkins should one be to drink diet soda leaving out
coke? Im bored with water allready and the alternatives (broth - ugh)
is not my cup of tea. Speaking of wich - why is tea not allowed?

Diet Rite and Hanson Diet sodas are Splenda-sweetened. Since they use liquid
Splenda (as opposed to the granulated), there are no carbs associated with the
sweetening

Quoted message said:

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

You'll get a multitude of answers on that one. I like Readi-Crisp bacon, cheese,
ham & cheese rollups, etc.

Quoted message said:

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

I use Thicken Thin/NotStarch, which is a blend of guar gum, xanthan gum and
something else. You can get guar gum or xanthan gum at most health food stores
and even some regular grocery stores. I got the NotStarch from Netrition.com.

--
Saffire
205/147/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

I don't like plain water either so I drink a lot of unsweetened Kool-Aid
mixed with Splenda instead of sugar. Lots of flavour varieties. I don't
drink carbonated beverages (never have) so I can't recommend any.
Caffeine has recently been proven to spike blood glucose when taken with or
shortly after food. The main focus of LC is to keep blood glucose levels
fairly stable so sudden spikes can produce weight-loss stalls in some
people. It also inhibits the absorption of some vitamins and minerals. I
have completely switched to decaf coffee. You can get decaf teas too
(regular teas, not just herbal).
And you go right ahead and ask any and all questions you want. There are
some a**holes in the group. You'll start to recognize them after a while
and can create killfiles so they won't bother you. :-)

Zap said:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I am on day 8 by now and i have read the book -
or most of it but decided to start before i had i chance to finish it
- much like at lot of others here i just felt inspired. But with a
busy schoolday - which in itself requires a lot of reading - im not
quite done yet.

Im glad about the soda. The book says no. By my question i ment if
something had changed. The book is "old". New sweeteners out there.
Perhaps a new product was made.

Tea, i know its bad cuz of the caffeine but why is it that caffeine is
bad? I love coffee and tea and coffee i can get decaf so thats ok but
i miss my tea. Drinks with a flavor *sigh*

Thanks for the tips on snacks. I was kind of looking for something i
could bring with me that wouldnt go bad - im sorry i didnt state that
but the suggestions were nice. I have primarely used pork-rind as a
"bring along" snack but variety would be nice :o) Also they are very
salty and so is the bacon i eat for breakfast so i kind of get
"enough" at some point.

The sauce, yes i meant a gravy style sauce. And thanks for the links.

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

-----
Bev

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

How far a long in Atkins should one be to drink diet soda leaving out
coke? Im bored with water allready and the alternatives (broth - ugh)
is not my cup of tea. Speaking of wich - why is tea not allowed?

Forgot to mention -- tea IS allowed, as long as it's decaf. There is a HUGE
selection of flavored herbal teas available. I usually count about half a carb
per tea bag. Check the nutrition label if it has one, though -- I discovered
that ONE of my teas had a whopping FIVE carbs per bag (at least I THINK that's
what it was), but it WAS a speciality tea.

--
Saffire
205/147/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

"Zap" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I am on day 8 by now and i have read the book -
or most of it but decided to start before i had i chance to finish it
- much like at lot of others here i just felt inspired. But with a
busy schoolday - which in itself requires a lot of reading - im not
quite done yet.

Im glad about the soda. The book says no. By my question i ment if
something had changed. The book is "old". New sweeteners out there.
Perhaps a new product was made.

Tea, i know its bad cuz of the caffeine but why is it that caffeine is
bad? I love coffee and tea and coffee i can get decaf so thats ok but
i miss my tea. Drinks with a flavor *sigh*

Oh - i forgot to mention Herbal tea, I drink it mostly in the cold months,
lots of it. The regular old Lipton or Celestial Seasons type, I like Apple
Cinnamon the best but some others are good too. In the summer I used to make
a cup of herbal tea then pour it over ice. There are definitely more options
for beverages with flavor - you just have to be creative! And keep an eye
out for new stuff!!

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the tips on snacks. I was kind of looking for something i
could bring with me that wouldnt go bad - im sorry i didnt state that
but the suggestions were nice. I have primarely used pork-rind as a
"bring along" snack but variety would be nice :o) Also they are very
salty and so is the bacon i eat for breakfast so i kind of get
"enough" at some point.

I bought a dehydrator so I could make my own sugar free beef jerky - it is
awesome!!! The dehydrator was only 40 bux and the jerky is a great
take-along snack! I like to scoop cream cheese with prok rinds - yumm, but
that's not so portable :oP

Quoted message said:

The sauce, yes i meant a gravy style sauce. And thanks for the links.

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

Zap.

hope you don't mean me! I wasn't sure if you were a troll or not at first
but I think your questions are fine. Alot of people don't read the plans
then come here and say - "So how does this LC thing work, what should I eat?
Can I have ice cream once a week?" etc!!

good luck

JoAnna
176/146/120

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Quoted message said:

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Thanks
Zap

In article <[email hidden]>,
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"Zap" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Tomato sauce? what kind of sauce? you won't be having tomato sauce anyway
and I'll make believe I didn't read that you use flour in it!!! I know
there is soy flours but i don't use them

Why not tomato sauce? Tomatoes are carby and you have to be cautious with them,
but they are certainly ALLOWED. Just today I made a pot of spaghetti sauce using
29 oz of tomato sauce and 28 oz of diced, peeled tomatoes (both Safeway store
brand -- they don't add sugar). Along with mushrooms, onion, etc., the entire
pot contains 134.8 carbs, but a 1-cup serving (out of 14 cups) only contains
9.629 carbs (and 116.3 cals), which is perfectly doable as long as they are
budgeted into the day's total. It WOULD be a lot for induction, comprising
almost half of the day's allotment (but a 1/2-cup serving wouldn't be). I plan
to eat it with shirataki noodles and parmesan cheese -- YUM! Later I'll probably
have have it with veggies.

P.S. I wrote most of this, then had some spaghetti for dinner as planned -- I
could only eat about 1/2 of it at once (5 oz shiritaki noodles and 1 cup of sauce
with 3 tbl parmesan), so I'll finish it later. Based on that, 1/2 cup sauce
would probably be fine, depending on what you are doing with it and how much you
can eat at a time. I was just eating the spaghetti, not extra veggies/salad,
etc.

--
Saffire
205/147/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Quoted message said:

Anyways, I was going to start this little rant suggesting that you would be
hard pressed to find a splenda soft drink out there in the main stream, but
[http://www.pbs.org/wsw/news/fortunearticle_20031229_04.html] lists a couple
if you are interested:

Diet RC cola, Starbucks Lite Frappuccino, a light version of Coca-Cola's
Powerade, Ocean Spray Light, Diet V8 Splash, Light Hawaiian Punch, Blue
Bunny ice cream, and Swiss Miss hot cocoa mix.

Plus Diet Rite (several flavors), Diet Big Red, Waist Watchers, all flavors of
Hansen's diet sodas, and a wide assortment of store-brand sodas and
fruit-flavored drinks.
LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/159/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

Zap said:

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

Zap.

Of course it's ok to ask questions and I apologize if you think I was
rude for suggesting that you might what to do your own research.

Rudy posts a link to FAQ EVERY day. Watch for it. When you see it come
by, click on it and read it. Make her feel that you appreciate her
effort. If you still can find the answers you want - post your
questions. Or - just save yourself a lot of work and post the
questions anyway...LOL

Lybbe
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 233.2
Goal - 150

"Zap" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I am on day 8 by now and i have read the book -
or most of it but decided to start before i had i chance to finish it
- much like at lot of others here i just felt inspired. But with a
busy schoolday - which in itself requires a lot of reading - im not
quite done yet.

Im glad about the soda. The book says no. By my question i ment if
something had changed. The book is "old". New sweeteners out there.
Perhaps a new product was made.

Tea, i know its bad cuz of the caffeine but why is it that caffeine is
bad? I love coffee and tea and coffee i can get decaf so thats ok but
i miss my tea. Drinks with a flavor *sigh*

Thanks for the tips on snacks. I was kind of looking for something i
could bring with me that wouldnt go bad - im sorry i didnt state that
but the suggestions were nice. I have primarely used pork-rind as a
"bring along" snack but variety would be nice :o) Also they are very
salty and so is the bacon i eat for breakfast so i kind of get
"enough" at some point.

The sauce, yes i meant a gravy style sauce. And thanks for the links.

I am very new to this group so i was wondering - where can i read the
faq one of you mentions? I got the feeling from that same person that
it was nok ok to ask questions like the ones i did. If thats the case
im sorry.

Zap.

Quoted message said:

What about snacks? I havent been able to find anything quick thats
allowed. Ususally i would eat some crackers, an apple or such but what
does one do now?

How do one make a sauce? I ususally use flour to thicken it but thats
not allowed.

Thanks
Zap

Zap, the FAQ thread is titled "FAQ: A Beginner's Guide to Low Carb Living".
If you can't find it (it was never posted on my old news server), try the
following the link or the backup site that appears below it:

http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~agross/asdlc/

Em (UK)