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  1. I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date. I've been away from biking for years and am trying to
    get back into it, so I have some questions about equipment.

    1. The original thumb shifters are toast, so I'd like to go to the
    newer click shifters. Will these work with the original derailleurs,
    or do I have to upgrade those as well?

    2. Can I mount V-brakes in place of the original straddle cable
    brakes? The bike now has a bull-moose integrated stem and bars; I'd
    like to upgrade this as well, so do I need some additional hardware
    (cable hangers, etc.) when I do this?

    3. Is there sufficient dropout spacing to go to a 7-speed rear
    cluster, or do I just ignore the number 7 position?

    4. I have a Schwinn (my wife's, she can no longer ride) with SRAM bar
    end shifters. Could I just swap these (and the derailleurs) straight
    over?

    If this isn't the right group for these questions, could someone point
    me to the correct one?

    Much thanks for any help!

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

  2. On Dec 5, 3:52 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date. I've been away from biking for years and am trying to
    get back into it, so I have some questions about equipment.

    1. The original thumb shifters are toast, so I'd like to go to the
    newer click shifters. Will these work with the original derailleurs,
    or do I have to upgrade those as well?

    2. Can I mount V-brakes in place of the original straddle cable
    brakes? The bike now has a bull-moose integrated stem and bars; I'd
    like to upgrade this as well, so do I need some additional hardware
    (cable hangers, etc.) when I do this?

    3. Is there sufficient dropout spacing to go to a 7-speed rear
    cluster, or do I just ignore the number 7 position?

    4. I have a Schwinn (my wife's, she can no longer ride) with SRAM bar
    end shifters. Could I just swap these (and the derailleurs) straight
    over?

    If this isn't the right group for these questions, could someone point
    me to the correct one?

    Much thanks for any help!

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

    Hi Bob,

    Welcome back. An old stumpjumper should be a decent ride for what you
    want to do. I'm no expert, but I ride and tinker a bit so I'll offer
    a little input, and a recommendation.

    1) By "click" shifters do you mean indexed shifting? If so, is that
    implying that you had thumb shifters that were friction? I've never
    seen or heard of such a thing, not to say it doesn't exist. Anyway,
    assuming the derailers are indexed, newer indexed thumb shifters
    should work just fine. If you meant grip shift, the answer stays the
    same, but I should mention that thumb shifters are still extremely
    common and from what I see more popular than grip shifters. That
    said, I love my grip shift.

    2) I assume by "straddle cable" you mean cantilever. If I'm correct,
    you'll need new levers or some sort of gizmo intended to alter the
    cable pull to make canti levers work with V brakes. I'd just get a
    cheap set of V brake levers. You may run into other issues as well,
    I'm not sure.

    3) Assuming the bike is a 6 speed now, a 7 speed freewheel should fit
    though you may need a washer. See http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html

    4) Bar-end, as in road bike? I'll let someone else handle this one, I
    don't know.

    5) While this group is just fine, rec.bicycles.tech would likely be a
    better bet. There is way more traffic, it's based on stuff like this,
    and you'll likely get all the info you need and more in the fraction
    of the time it'll take to get anywhere here.

    So, what's international pipe raising day?

    Dan

  3. On Dec 5, 12:52 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date.

    Well, you probably need to put 29" wheels on it and a little bit of
    every other hype that's come down the pike in the last 20 years or
    so. Either that, or you could turn it into a singlespeed for cheap
    and just have fun riding a bike instead of a hypecycle.

    JD

  4. email hidden said:

    On Dec 5, 3:52 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date. I've been away from biking for years and am trying to
    get back into it, so I have some questions about equipment.

    1. The original thumb shifters are toast, so I'd like to go to the
    newer click shifters. Will these work with the original derailleurs,
    or do I have to upgrade those as well?

    2. Can I mount V-brakes in place of the original straddle cable
    brakes? The bike now has a bull-moose integrated stem and bars; I'd
    like to upgrade this as well, so do I need some additional hardware
    (cable hangers, etc.) when I do this?

    3. Is there sufficient dropout spacing to go to a 7-speed rear
    cluster, or do I just ignore the number 7 position?

    4. I have a Schwinn (my wife's, she can no longer ride) with SRAM bar
    end shifters. Could I just swap these (and the derailleurs) straight
    over?

    If this isn't the right group for these questions, could someone point
    me to the correct one?

    Much thanks for any help!

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

    Hi Bob,

    Welcome back. An old stumpjumper should be a decent ride for what you
    want to do. I'm no expert, but I ride and tinker a bit so I'll offer
    a little input, and a recommendation.

    1) By "click" shifters do you mean indexed shifting? If so, is that
    implying that you had thumb shifters that were friction? I've never
    seen or heard of such a thing, not to say it doesn't exist. Anyway,
    assuming the derailers are indexed, newer indexed thumb shifters
    should work just fine. If you meant grip shift, the answer stays the
    same, but I should mention that thumb shifters are still extremely
    common and from what I see more popular than grip shifters. That
    said, I love my grip shift.

    2) I assume by "straddle cable" you mean cantilever. If I'm correct,
    you'll need new levers or some sort of gizmo intended to alter the
    cable pull to make canti levers work with V brakes. I'd just get a
    cheap set of V brake levers. You may run into other issues as well,
    I'm not sure.

    3) Assuming the bike is a 6 speed now, a 7 speed freewheel should fit
    though you may need a washer. See http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html

    4) Bar-end, as in road bike? I'll let someone else handle this one, I
    don't know.

    5) While this group is just fine, rec.bicycles.tech would likely be a
    better bet. There is way more traffic, it's based on stuff like this,
    and you'll likely get all the info you need and more in the fraction
    of the time it'll take to get anywhere here.

    So, what's international pipe raising day?

    Dan

    Thanks for the help Dan! International Pipe Raising Day is when pipe
    smokers around the world pledge to bring pipe-smoking back into
    general awareness by flaunting our briars, meerschaums, clays, etc. 😉

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

  5. On Dec 5, 5:53 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:21:04 -0800 (PST), "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    On Dec 5, 3:52 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date. I've been away from biking for years and am trying to
    get back into it, so I have some questions about equipment.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1. The original thumb shifters are toast, so I'd like to go to the
    newer click shifters. Will these work with the original derailleurs,
    or do I have to upgrade those as well?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2. Can I mount V-brakes in place of the original straddle cable
    brakes? The bike now has a bull-moose integrated stem and bars; I'd
    like to upgrade this as well, so do I need some additional hardware
    (cable hangers, etc.) when I do this?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3. Is there sufficient dropout spacing to go to a 7-speed rear
    cluster, or do I just ignore the number 7 position?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. I have a Schwinn (my wife's, she can no longer ride) with SRAM bar
    end shifters. Could I just swap these (and the derailleurs) straight
    over?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If this isn't the right group for these questions, could someone point
    me to the correct one?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Much thanks for any help!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Bob,

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome back. An old stumpjumper should be a decent ride for what you
    want to do. I'm no expert, but I ride and tinker a bit so I'll offer
    a little input, and a recommendation.

    Quoted message said:

    1) By "click" shifters do you mean indexed shifting? If so, is that
    implying that you had thumb shifters that were friction? I've never
    seen or heard of such a thing, not to say it doesn't exist. Anyway,
    assuming the derailers are indexed, newer indexed thumb shifters
    should work just fine. If you meant grip shift, the answer stays the
    same, but I should mention that thumb shifters are still extremely
    common and from what I see more popular than grip shifters. That
    said, I love my grip shift.

    Quoted message said:

    2) I assume by "straddle cable" you mean cantilever. If I'm correct,
    you'll need new levers or some sort of gizmo intended to alter the
    cable pull to make canti levers work with V brakes. I'd just get a
    cheap set of V brake levers. You may run into other issues as well,
    I'm not sure.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Assuming the bike is a 6 speed now, a 7 speed freewheel should fit
    though you may need a washer. Seehttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html

    Quoted message said:

    4) Bar-end, as in road bike? I'll let someone else handle this one, I
    don't know.

    Quoted message said:

    5) While this group is just fine, rec.bicycles.tech would likely be a
    better bet. There is way more traffic, it's based on stuff like this,
    and you'll likely get all the info you need and more in the fraction
    of the time it'll take to get anywhere here.

    Quoted message said:

    So, what's international pipe raising day?

    Quoted message said:

    Dan

    Thanks for the help Dan! International Pipe Raising Day is when pipe
    smokers around the world pledge to bring pipe-smoking back into
    general awareness by flaunting our briars, meerschaums, clays, etc. 😉

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Get a set of Sram 5.0 grip shifters cheap. Now tune them in and ride
    its that easy.

  6. "Bob Landry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the help Dan! International Pipe Raising Day is when pipe
    smokers around the world pledge to bring pipe-smoking back into
    general awareness by flaunting our briars, meerschaums, clays, etc. 😉

    Nice. My Dad has a nice collection of meerschaums. I'll have to mention
    this to him.

    Greg
    --
    Coming soon to a desert near you:
    http://lodesertprotosites.org/pokerrun/pokerrun.html

  7. On Dec 5, 5:53 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:21:04 -0800 (PST), "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    On Dec 5, 3:52 pm, Bob Landry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of the first generation Stumpjumpers. I am trying to bring
    it up to date. I've been away from biking for years and am trying to
    get back into it, so I have some questions about equipment.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1. The original thumb shifters are toast, so I'd like to go to the
    newer click shifters. Will these work with the original derailleurs,
    or do I have to upgrade those as well?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2. Can I mount V-brakes in place of the original straddle cable
    brakes? The bike now has a bull-moose integrated stem and bars; I'd
    like to upgrade this as well, so do I need some additional hardware
    (cable hangers, etc.) when I do this?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3. Is there sufficient dropout spacing to go to a 7-speed rear
    cluster, or do I just ignore the number 7 position?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. I have a Schwinn (my wife's, she can no longer ride) with SRAM bar
    end shifters. Could I just swap these (and the derailleurs) straight
    over?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If this isn't the right group for these questions, could someone point
    me to the correct one?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Much thanks for any help!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Bob,

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome back. An old stumpjumper should be a decent ride for what you
    want to do. I'm no expert, but I ride and tinker a bit so I'll offer
    a little input, and a recommendation.

    Quoted message said:

    1) By "click" shifters do you mean indexed shifting? If so, is that
    implying that you had thumb shifters that were friction? I've never
    seen or heard of such a thing, not to say it doesn't exist. Anyway,
    assuming the derailers are indexed, newer indexed thumb shifters
    should work just fine. If you meant grip shift, the answer stays the
    same, but I should mention that thumb shifters are still extremely
    common and from what I see more popular than grip shifters. That
    said, I love my grip shift.

    Quoted message said:

    2) I assume by "straddle cable" you mean cantilever. If I'm correct,
    you'll need new levers or some sort of gizmo intended to alter the
    cable pull to make canti levers work with V brakes. I'd just get a
    cheap set of V brake levers. You may run into other issues as well,
    I'm not sure.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Assuming the bike is a 6 speed now, a 7 speed freewheel should fit
    though you may need a washer. Seehttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html

    Quoted message said:

    4) Bar-end, as in road bike? I'll let someone else handle this one, I
    don't know.

    Quoted message said:

    5) While this group is just fine, rec.bicycles.tech would likely be a
    better bet. There is way more traffic, it's based on stuff like this,
    and you'll likely get all the info you need and more in the fraction
    of the time it'll take to get anywhere here.

    Quoted message said:

    So, what's international pipe raising day?

    Quoted message said:

    Dan

    Thanks for the help Dan! International Pipe Raising Day is when pipe
    smokers around the world pledge to bring pipe-smoking back into
    general awareness by flaunting our briars, meerschaums, clays, etc. 😉

    Bob
    Just another nice basic flake.
    (and old fart in training)

    International Pipe-raising Day, Feb. 20th- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    No problem. Thanks for the reply on the 20th, that's pretty nifty.
    If I remember maybe I'll raise a pipe at some point that day.

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