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  1. nj.comindex.ssf ***********************
    exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics during the past half-century has
    allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to increasingly virulent and pathogenic
    bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Overuse of welfare during the past half-century has allowed mutant HUMNANz to survive and thrive,
    giving rise to increasingly criminal and pathological LOOZerz that no longer respond to traditional
    behavior therapy....

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    nj.comindex.ssf ***********************
    exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics during the past half-century
    has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to increasingly virulent and
    pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but it's a
    complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-resistant
    bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are intrinsically weaker,
    since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic defense, which non-
    resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all natural antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to square
    one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or maybe it would
    be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that antibiotics create stronger
    or nastier bugs is nonsense.

    SBH

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    nj.comindex.ssf ***********************
    exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics during the past half-century
    has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to increasingly virulent and
    pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Overuse of welfare during the past half-century has allowed mutant HUMNANz to survive and thrive,
    giving rise to increasingly criminal and pathological LOOZerz that no longer respond to
    traditional behavior therapy....

    MMD, if you'd devote even a fourth as much time & energy actually *learning* about things like MRSA
    as you do casting about for items you think support your preconceived theories, you could be a
    really truly educated guy, you know that? <eg>

    B

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    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but it's
    a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all natural
    antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or maybe
    it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that antibiotics
    create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.


    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between the
    phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited somehow
    proves this.

    --
    "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary numbers and those
    who don't."
    -----------------------------
    Byron "Barn" Canfield

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    nj.comindex.ssf
    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but it's
    a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all natural
    antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or maybe
    it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that antibiotics
    create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.

    Absolutely correct. The only advantage bugs like MRSA have over their predecessors is enhanced
    resistance.

    B

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    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Overuse of welfare during the past half-century has allowed mutant HUMNANz to survive and
    thrive, giving rise to increasingly criminal and pathological LOOZerz that no longer respond to
    traditional behavior therapy....

    MMD, if you'd devote even a fourth as much time & energy actually *learning* about things like
    MRSA as you do casting about for items you think support your preconceived theories, you could be
    a really truly educated guy, you know that? <eg>

    B

    Now where's the sport in THAT?

    Besides, his major platform is that intelligence is derived strictly by racial genetics, so any
    attempt he made to educate himself would be in vain.

    And though there is no foundation for the premise, the latter does seem to be true (the conclusion,
    of course, not making the premise true).

    --
    "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary numbers and those
    who don't."
    -----------------------------
    Byron "Barn" Canfield

  7. Steve Harris said:

    The idea that antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.

    What about the idea that antibiotics remove healthful bacteria from your gut, making it more likely
    to be recolonized by nasty bacteria?

    A friend of mine who was recently prescribed antibiotics for the flu was also told by his doctor to
    take live-culture yogurt after finishing the antibiotics, to recolonize his gut with healthful
    bacteria before the bad guys had a chance to set up shop.

    I'm skeptical, in part because since when have antibiotics been appropriate for the flu?

    Just in case, I do avoid using any antibacterial products. I've never caught anything from my
    countertop, sink, or toilet seat, and I'd just as soon leave well enough alone.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - [email hidden] - keithlynch.netkeithlynch.net I always welcome replies to my e-mail,
    postings, and web pages, but unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) is not acceptable. Please do not send me
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    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but
    it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all natural
    antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or maybe
    it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that antibiotics
    create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.


    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between the
    phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited somehow
    proves this.

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to makemyday.

    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

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    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Overuse of welfare during the past half-century has allowed mutant HUMNANz to survive and
    thrive, giving rise to increasingly criminal and pathological LOOZerz that no longer respond to
    traditional behavior therapy....

    MMD, if you'd devote even a fourth as much time & energy actually *learning* about things like
    MRSA as you do casting about for items you think support your preconceived theories, you could be
    a really truly educated guy, you know that? <eg>

    B

    Now where's the sport in THAT?

    Besides, his major platform is that intelligence is derived strictly by racial genetics, so any
    attempt he made to educate himself would be in vain.

    And though there is no foundation for the premise, the latter does seem to be true (the
    conclusion, of course, not making the premise true).

    Go ahead, ignore the facts, byronc. Too bad you are too cowardly and stupid to argue with us. Well,
    I suppose it wouldn't be a fair fight, what with us intellectual giants matched against a mental
    midget like yourself.

    Hey, Byronc, if intelligence isn't genetic, then how do you explain that poor black academic
    performance can be found in every country in which they reside?

    Take a look at England:

    dfes.gov.ukpupil progress final.pdf

    Page 23:

    "Black Caribbean and black other pupils make the lowest progress at all Key Stages."

    "Black Caribbean and Black other pupils seem to be the lowest progressing groups overall."

    "Black Africans make average progress in English but below average progress in mathematics
    and science."

    "Black Caribbean and Black other pupils make the lowest progress out of all the ethnic groups."

    Well, byronc, how do YOU explain that?

    You know, even introductory psychology courses discuss the fact that behavior has genetic components
    as well. Yet, you'll deny this, too. Why?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

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    *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional antibiotic
    therapy.
    *******************************************************************

    Overuse of welfare during the past half-century has allowed mutant HUMNANz to survive and
    thrive, giving rise to increasingly criminal and pathological LOOZerz that no longer respond
    to traditional behavior therapy....

    MMD, if you'd devote even a fourth as much time & energy actually *learning* about things like
    MRSA as you do casting about for items you think support your preconceived theories, you could
    be a really truly educated guy, you know that? <eg>

    B

    Now where's the sport in THAT?

    Besides, his major platform is that intelligence is derived strictly by racial genetics, so any
    attempt he made to educate himself would be in vain.

    LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL <GASP GASP WHEEZE WHEEZE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE> Don't DO that to
    me!! hehehehehehehe

    B

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    > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    > increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    > antibiotic therapy.
    > *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but
    it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all
    natural antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or
    maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.


    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    somehow proves this.

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to makemyday.

    And you are mistaken (what's new). I've had makemyday killfiled for longer than you've been around
    this newsgroup. I converse only with those who are likewise amused at his (and your) antics.

    Quoted message said:


    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any value
    whatsoever\

    You latest silly sockpuppet killfiled, too: <plonk>

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    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

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    > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    > increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    > antibiotic therapy.
    > *******************************************************************

    Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but
    it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all
    natural antibiotics already.

    The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or
    maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.


    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    somehow proves this.

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to makemyday.

    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

    Well, you apparently were afraid to do so with me, so.... <eg>

    B

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    > > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    > > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    > > increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    > > antibiotic therapy.
    > > *****************************************************************
    > > **
    >
    >
    >
    > Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but
    > it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    > resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    > intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    > defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all
    > natural antibiotics already.
    >
    > The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    > square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or
    > maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    > antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    >
    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    somehow proves this.

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to makemyday.

    And you are mistaken (what's new). I've had makemyday killfiled for longer than you've been around
    this newsgroup.

    Oh, is that why you still read and reply to his articles. Hey, if that's how your killfile works,
    you need a new reader.

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    I converse only with those who are likewise amused at his (and your) antics.

    You mean fools like yourself who pretend to be embracing of other races yet isolate yourselves in
    your all-white communities.

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    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any
    value whatsoever\

    Nothing, eh? How about this:

    info.med.yale.edu99jungen.htm

    Intelligence runs in families.

    *The correlation coefficient between parent and child intelligence is .43 (0 is no correlation, 1 is
    a perfect correlation, 0.50 is moderate).

    *The correlation coefficient for intelligence between siblings is 0.47 (moderate correlation).

    *The correlation for genetically IDENTICAL twins is *0.85* (strong correlation).

    *Intelligence for identical twins who have been adopted and raised by separate families is still
    HIGHLY correlated, about 0.85.

    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is 0.

    The correlation of intelligence between randomly drawn people is 0.

    That seems quite valuable as it proves negro stupidity has a genetic basis, not a social one like
    you like to argue.

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    You latest silly sockpuppet killfiled, too: <plonk>

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    Yeah, well, maybe one day you'll come out of ivory tower and cease barricading yourself away from
    blacks in your all-white neighborhood.

    Hell, there's more blacks living in my neighborhood than yours, and I don't pretend to love them
    like you do. It must mean that I'm a better person. I'm not a hardcore racist like you, byronc.

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

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    > > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    > > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise to
    > > increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    > > antibiotic therapy.
    > > *****************************************************************
    > > **
    >
    >
    >
    > Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough, but
    > it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than the non-
    > resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they are
    > intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with antibiotic
    > defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant to all
    > natural antibiotics already.
    >
    > The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back to
    > square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented. Or
    > maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    > antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    >
    But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    somehow proves this.

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to makemyday.

    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

    Well, you apparently were afraid to do so with me, so.... <eg>

    B

    Actually, no I'm not. Perhaps I missed your article. I'll have to review the thread tomorrow.

    Until then.

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

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    >> > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    >> > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise
    >> > to increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    >> > antibiotic therapy.
    >> > *****************************************************************
    >> > **
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough,
    >> but it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than
    >> the non-resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they
    >> are intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with
    >> antibiotic defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant
    >> to all natural antibiotics already.
    >>
    >> The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back
    >> to square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented.
    >> Or maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    >> antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    >>
    > But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    > the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    > somehow proves this.
    >
    >

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to
    makemyday.

    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

    Well, you apparently were afraid to do so with me, so.... <eg>

    B

    Actually, no I'm not. Perhaps I missed your article. I'll have to review the thread tomorrow.

    OK, fair enough. 🙂 If it doesn't turn up for you, use google to check for a message from me to
    "Musty" with text on the cannibal of Rotenburg.

    B

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    >> > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    >> > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise
    >> > to increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    >> > antibiotic therapy.
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    >> > **
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough,
    >> but it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than
    >> the non-resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they
    >> are intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with
    >> antibiotic defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant
    >> to all natural antibiotics already.
    >>
    >> The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back
    >> to square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented.
    >> Or maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    >> antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    >>
    > But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    > the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    > somehow proves this.
    >
    >

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to
    makemyday.

    And you are mistaken (what's new). I've had makemyday killfiled for longer than you've been
    around this newsgroup.

    Oh, is that why you still read and reply to his articles. Hey, if that's how your killfile works,
    you need a new reader.

    Your ignorance of newsreades and killfiles apparently knows no bounds.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I converse only with those who are likewise amused at his (and your) antics.

    You mean fools like yourself who pretend to be embracing of other races yet isolate yourselves in
    your all-white communities.

    It also is rather amusing that you seem completely oblivious to the fact that YOU are in the
    minority with your bigotry and hatred.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any
    value whatsoever\

    Nothing, eh? How about this:

    info.med.yale.edu99jungen.htm

    Intelligence runs in families.

    *The correlation coefficient between parent and child intelligence is .43 (0 is no correlation, 1
    is a perfect correlation, 0.50 is moderate).

    *The correlation coefficient for intelligence between siblings is 0.47 (moderate correlation).

    Quoted message said:


    *The correlation for genetically IDENTICAL twins is *0.85* (strong correlation).

    *Intelligence for identical twins who have been adopted and raised by separate families is still
    HIGHLY correlated, about 0.85.

    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is 0.

    The correlation of intelligence between randomly drawn people is 0.

    That seems quite valuable as it proves negro stupidity has a genetic basis, not a social one like
    you like to argue.

    That article does not attribute any of the genetic propensity for intelligence to race -- none
    whatsoever. You talking out your ass, as usual.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    You latest silly sockpuppet killfiled, too: <plonk>

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, well, maybe one day you'll come out of ivory tower and cease barricading yourself away from
    blacks in your all-white neighborhood.

    You speak of things of which you know nothing -- again, as usual.

    Quoted message said:


    Hell, there's more blacks living in my neighborhood than yours, and I don't pretend to love them
    like you do. It must mean that I'm a better person. I'm not a hardcore racist like you, byronc.

    Here's hoping your neighbors take some action.

    Quoted message said:


    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA


    Killfiling latest silly sockpuppet. <plonk>

    --
    "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary numbers and those
    who don't."
    -----------------------------
    Byron "Barn" Canfield

  17. "Warren A. Petters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Byron Canfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ekaCb.368771$ao4.1237258@attbi_s51:

    Quoted message said:

    "Mech-A-Nex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Byron Canfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:oC0Cb.85571$_M.450843@attbi_s54:

    > "Steve Harris [email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > "]news:[email hidden]...
    >> [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
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    >> >
    > nj.comindex.ssf .x ml
    >> > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of antibiotics
    >> > during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive, giving rise
    >> > to increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to traditional
    >> > antibiotic therapy.
    >> > *****************************************************************
    >> > **
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough,
    >> but it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than
    >> the non-resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they
    >> are intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with
    >> antibiotic defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't resistant
    >> to all natural antibiotics already.
    >>
    >> The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back
    >> to square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented.
    >> Or maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    >> antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    >>
    > But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation between
    > the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article cited
    > somehow proves this.
    >
    >

    You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to
    makemyday.

    And you are mistaken (what's new). I've had makemyday killfiled for longer than you've been
    around this newsgroup.

    Oh, is that why you still read and reply to his articles. Hey, if that's how your killfile works,
    you need a new reader.

    Quoted message said:

    I converse only with those who are likewise amused at his (and your) antics.

    You mean fools like yourself who pretend to be embracing of other races yet isolate yourselves in
    your all-white communities.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any
    value whatsoever\

    Nothing, eh? How about this:

    info.med.yale.edu99jungen.htm

    Intelligence runs in families.

    *The correlation coefficient between parent and child intelligence is .43 (0 is no correlation, 1
    is a perfect correlation, 0.50 is moderate).

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is 0.

    The correlation of intelligence between randomly drawn people is 0.

    That seems quite valuable as it proves negro stupidity has a genetic basis, not a social one like
    you like to argue.

    Uh, bit of a Bad Mistake there, ace. <eg> You see, I'm familiar with that particular article, & it
    doesn't address race at all, not even once. It speaks *only* to general cognitive ability running in
    *families*; race isn't mentioned at all, period. Plomin even makes a specific point of the fact that
    he is only addressing that one aspect of intelligence & that genetic research results must be
    considered with the knowledge that they involve complex traits influenced by both multiple genetic
    *&* multiple environmental factors.

    This is why one of my favorite taglines back in the old BBS days was "Never argue with the man who
    does something for a living." 🙂

    B

  18. "Byron Canfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    You mean fools like yourself who pretend to be embracing of other

    Quoted message said:

    races yet isolate yourselves in your all-white communities.

    It also is rather amusing that you seem completely oblivious to the fact that YOU are in the
    minority with your bigotry and hatred.

    Wrong. White flight is real. Most whites cannot stand to be around blacks. That's why we, and YOU,
    move so very far away from them.

    I know the demographics of your community, byronc. You live in an area that is only 1.6% black.

    Why do you want to isolate yourself from blacks?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any
    value whatsoever\

    Nothing, eh? How about this:

    info.med.yale.edu99jungen.htm

    Intelligence runs in families.

    *The correlation coefficient between parent and child intelligence is .43 (0 is no correlation, 1
    is a perfect correlation, 0.50 is moderate).

    *The correlation coefficient for intelligence between siblings is .47 (moderate correlation).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    *The correlation for genetically IDENTICAL twins is *0.85* (strong correlation).

    *Intelligence for identical twins who have been adopted and raised by separate families is still
    HIGHLY correlated, about 0.85.

    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is 0.

    The correlation of intelligence between randomly drawn people is 0.

    That seems quite valuable as it proves negro stupidity has a genetic basis, not a social one like
    you like to argue.

    That article does not attribute any of the genetic propensity for intelligence to race -- none
    whatsoever. You talking out your ass, as usual.

    It doesn't have to. What it says is that intelligence is genetic. Therefore, if it is genetic,
    intelligence is going to run along racial lines, as race, skin color, eye color, hair color, etc,
    are ALL GENETIC and shared by members within a race!!! Therefore, other genetic characteristics,
    like intelligence, are going to run along racial/familial lines.

    Of course, expecting a dimwit like you to make simple infereneces is probably a mistake on my part.
    You could be the second stupidest white guy I've ever run across on Usenet. Well, you, Karl, Bob
    LaChumpaliar, I guess you do have good company among the moron set.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    You latest silly sockpuppet killfiled, too: <plonk>
    >

    Yeah, well, maybe one day you'll come out of ivory tower and cease barricading yourself away from
    blacks in your all-white neighborhood.

    You speak of things of which you know nothing -- again, as usual.

    I did a who is search of your website, got your address, looked up your city's demographics.

    It clearly said that the black population was 1.6%.

    Would you like me to post a link to your community's demographic info? I think I may still have it.
    I looked it up several months ago, but could find it for you, my racist friend.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Hell, there's more blacks living in my neighborhood than yours, and I don't pretend to love them
    like you do. It must mean that I'm a better person. I'm not a hardcore racist like you, byronc.

    Here's hoping your neighbors take some action.

    Here's hoping that you admit that you don't like living around blacks, which is why you flee to your
    all-white suburb.

    Quoted message said:

    Killfiling latest silly sockpuppet. <plonk>

    You make me laugh, Byronc.

    Hey, if your killfile works so good, then how do you keep seeing makemyday's posts? If you are
    replying to replies of his posts, then why do you bother, idiot?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

  19. [email hidden] (bnichols) wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

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    Quoted message said:

    "Byron Canfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ekaCb.368771$ao4.1237258@attbi_s51:

    Quoted message said:

    "Mech-A-Nex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > "Byron Canfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:oC0Cb.85571$_M.450843@attbi_s54:
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    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    > >> >
    > > nj.comindex.ssf 580 0.x ml
    > >> > *********************** exzerpt *********************************** Overuse of
    > >> > antibiotics during the past half-century has allowed mutant germs to survive and thrive,
    > >> > giving rise to increasingly virulent and pathogenic bacteria that no longer respond to
    > >> > traditional antibiotic therapy.
    > >> > **************************************************************
    > >> > *** **
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Use of antibiotics results in more antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, true enough,
    > >> but it's a complete myth that these are any more intrinsically virulent or pathogenic than
    > >> the non-resistant bacteria, in a non-antibiotic containing environment. If anything, they
    > >> are intrinsically weaker, since they spend time and energy on matters having to do with
    > >> antibiotic defense, which non-resistant bugs don't. That's WHY all bacteria aren't
    > >> resistant to all natural antibiotics already.
    > >>
    > >> The worst that happens if bacteria become resistant to all antibiotics is that you're back
    > >> to square one-- the kind of world which you'd have if antibiotics had never been invented.
    > >> Or maybe it would be a little better than that, for reasons mentioned above. The idea that
    > >> antibiotics create stronger or nastier bugs is nonsense.
    > >>
    > > But more to the point, makemyday would have us believe that there is some correlation
    > > between the phenomenon of mutating bacteria and his racial superiority, and that the article
    > > cited somehow proves this.
    > >
    > >
    >
    > You know, Byronc, I can't help but to notice that you've killfiled me, yet respond to
    > makemyday.

    And you are mistaken (what's new). I've had makemyday killfiled for longer than you've been
    around this newsgroup.

    Oh, is that why you still read and reply to his articles. Hey, if that's how your killfile works,
    you need a new reader.

    Quoted message said:

    I converse only with those who are likewise amused at his (and your) antics.

    You mean fools like yourself who pretend to be embracing of other races yet isolate yourselves in
    your all-white communities.

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Why is that? Are you afraid to argue with me?

    Nope -- have just found you a waste of time, since nothing you have ever said has been of any
    value whatsoever\

    Nothing, eh? How about this:

    info.med.yale.edu99jungen.htm

    Intelligence runs in families.

    *The correlation coefficient between parent and child intelligence is .43 (0 is no correlation, 1
    is a perfect correlation, 0.50 is moderate).

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is 0.

    The correlation of intelligence between randomly drawn people is 0.

    That seems quite valuable as it proves negro stupidity has a genetic basis, not a social one like
    you like to argue.

    Uh, bit of a Bad Mistake there, ace. <eg> You see, I'm familiar with that particular article, & it
    doesn't address race at all, not even once.

    It doesn't have to. I can be gleaned from the info provided.

    Quoted message said:

    It speaks *only* to general cognitive ability running in *families*; race isn't mentioned at
    all, period.

    No, but genetics is. Genetics is the basis for race. Wooly hair, broad noses, dark skin, red hair,
    height, weight, body frame, is all determined by genetics, my friend.

    And so is cognitive ability.

    Quoted message said:

    Plomin even makes a specific point of the fact that he is only addressing that one aspect of
    intelligence

    That one aspect of intelligence encompasses all areas deamed important: logic and problem solving
    skills, pattern recognition, and much more.

    Quoted message said:

    & that genetic research results must be considered with the knowledge that they involve complex
    traits influenced by both multiple genetic *&* multiple environmental factors.

    Wrong. Identical twins adopted and raised seperately show very high correlations of intelligence.
    The correlation of intelligence between adoptive parent and adopted child is ZERO.

    Therefore, the root of intelligence is encoded in our genes. It cannot be changed. Otherwise, we
    would expect a much lower, or no, correlation between identical twins raised seperately and a higher
    than ZERO correlation between adoptive parent and adopted child. Right???

    Do you not have the ability to make inferences from data? The data provided clearly states a genetic
    component to intelligence. If there is a genetic component, and in runs in families, why couldn't it
    run in the macro-family that is an entire race?

    Who's yer daddy, boy?!

    King of SCAA

  20. Warren A. Petters' none said:
    Quoted message said:

    Uh, bit of a Bad Mistake there, ace. <eg> You see, I'm familiar with that particular article, &
    it doesn't address race at all, not even once.

    It doesn't have to. I can be gleaned from the info provided.

    Quoted message said:

    It speaks *only* to general cognitive ability running in *families*; race isn't mentioned at all,
    period.

    No, but genetics is. Genetics is the basis for race.

    Genetics is also the basis for color-blindness. Some blacks are color-blind. Does that mean that
    everyone that is color-blind is black?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    & that genetic research results must be considered with the knowledge that they involve complex
    traits influenced by both multiple genetic *&* multiple environmental factors.

    Wrong. Identical twins adopted and raised seperately show very high correlations of intelligence.

    Most blacks are not identical twins with each other, and the genetic similarity between two random
    blacks is probably identical to the genetic similarity between a random black and a random white.

    Quoted message said:

    Do you not have the ability to make inferences from data?

    He knows how to make *scientific* inferences from data. You clearly haven't a clue.

    Quoted message said:

    The data provided clearly states a genetic component to intelligence. If there is a genetic
    component, and in runs in families, why couldn't it run in the macro-family that is an entire race?

    Because a race isn't a macro-family.

    ramsdale.orgdna7.htm Using mitochondrial DNA, they've determined three different
    lineages of Africans that diverged some 140,000 years ago. They know this because those three
    lineages are most unlike each other because they've evolved apart for longer. From one of those
    lineages of Africans sprung Asians, Europeans and everyone else. Africans in that third lineage are
    thus more closely related to Europeans than they are to the other two lineages of Africans.

    duerinck.commigrate.html

    Quoted message said:

    In Asia the ancestral lineage is known as M, with descendant branches E, F and G. In the Americas
    are lineages A through D. In Africa there is a single main lineage, known as L, which is divided
    into three branches. L3, the youngest branch, is common in East Africa and is believed to be the
    source of both the Asian and European lineages.

    So you are more closely related to an L3 black in East Africa than he is to some L2 black in another
    part of Africa.

    You lose.

    lojbab
    --
    lojbab [email hidden] Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own;
    I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: lojban.orglojban.org

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