So I asked myself a question...

Ryan Cousineau said:

If I was willing to horse trade, finagle, fuss, scour eBay, and
generally obey the proverb about waiting by the river*, what would it

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cost to build up a highly-spec'd race-worthy frame?

Can I construct a bicycle such that it's good enough to race, but
generic enough to crash?

And finally, is 9-speed stuff just the best deal in the universe, or
what?

The Whip is the answer.

Details soon.

Fiddlesticks. A couple friends of mine bought no-name road bikes from
Toys 'R' Us. The bikes were decent enough- aluminum frames & rims,
Shimano Sora components. The bikes sold for $99 on close-out. Once they
replaced the [censored] headset and plastic bottom bracket, they raced the
bikes in the local cyclocross series. Lowly spec, sure, but the bikes
were race-worthy.

Jeff

JeffWills said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

If I was willing to horse trade, finagle, fuss, scour eBay, and
generally obey the proverb about waiting by the river*, what would

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cost to build up a highly-spec'd race-worthy frame?

Can I construct a bicycle such that it's good enough to race, but
generic enough to crash?

And finally, is 9-speed stuff just the best deal in the universe,

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what?

The Whip is the answer.

Details soon.

Fiddlesticks. A couple friends of mine bought no-name road bikes from
Toys 'R' Us. The bikes were decent enough- aluminum frames & rims,
Shimano Sora components. The bikes sold for $99 on close-out. Once

they

Quoted message said:

replaced the [censored] headset and plastic bottom bracket, they raced the
bikes in the local cyclocross series. Lowly spec, sure, but the bikes
were race-worthy.

Jeff

The thing that makes the package of bike and rider 'race-worthy' is
mostly the rider, not the bicycle. An inexpensive aluminum frame and
fork, some shifters, wheels, brakes and a strong rider...will race just
fine.

"Eddy can win on my bike, I can't win on his"....meaning Merckx, of
course.

LIFE IS LONG

quality tools are better than poor quality tools
quality tools are cheap bought used and slightly dated

take my T-160...

In article <[email hidden]>,

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

JeffWills said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

If I was willing to horse trade, finagle, fuss, scour eBay, and
generally obey the proverb about waiting by the river*, what would

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cost to build up a highly-spec'd race-worthy frame?

Can I construct a bicycle such that it's good enough to race, but
generic enough to crash?

And finally, is 9-speed stuff just the best deal in the universe,

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what?

The Whip is the answer.

Details soon.

Fiddlesticks. A couple friends of mine bought no-name road bikes from
Toys 'R' Us. The bikes were decent enough- aluminum frames & rims,
Shimano Sora components. The bikes sold for $99 on close-out. Once

they

Quoted message said:

replaced the [censored] headset and plastic bottom bracket, they raced the
bikes in the local cyclocross series. Lowly spec, sure, but the bikes
were race-worthy.

Jeff

The thing that makes the package of bike and rider 'race-worthy' is
mostly the rider, not the bicycle. An inexpensive aluminum frame and
fork, some shifters, wheels, brakes and a strong rider...will race just
fine.

Surely this is true. But racing is a game of marginal advantages. Also,
you will be pleased to know that one of the key upgrades to the new bike
are Veloce Ergo (9v) shifters and rear derailer.

The old bike was the perfectly nice Pinarello, but the new bike is
probably 2 pounds lighter, and was built for about C$900 including
everything from taxes to bar tape.

And it has an inexpensive aluminum frame.

Double secret upgrade for weight weenies: Tektro/Nashbar brakes are
lighter than Dura-Ace. That's not what I'm using, though, because I got
a set of RX100 calipers for C$10 on Boxing day.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

well, surely you will go faster
but will the 2 lbs actualize your being or better yet turn you into a
podium dude?

well, surely you will go faster
but will the 2 lbs actualize your being or better yet turn you into a
podium dude?

on the other hand withinthe actualizing idea-
never hehehe never put yourself in the position of deeply regreting
when old what you could have done when young but didn't because...
it would kill you
your $$$ would be better off somewhere else actually

In article <[email hidden]>,

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well, surely you will go faster
but will the 2 lbs actualize your being or better yet turn you into a
podium dude?

Possibly yes. I routinely finish in the top quarter of races in Cat 4
now (yes, Cat 4; please save the jeering for rbr), so a couple of
pounds, on the right course, at the right time, might be the marginal
advantage I need to get on the box.

Of course, I should train more, too.
--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

Quoted message said:

LIFE IS LONG

quality tools are better than poor quality tools
quality tools are cheap bought used and slightly dated

take my T-160...

Steady now, I understood that

--
Andy Morris

AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK

Love this:
Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote in
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In article
<[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

well, surely you will go faster
but will the 2 lbs actualize your being or better yet turn you
into a podium dude?

Possibly yes. I routinely finish in the top quarter of races in
Cat 4 now (yes, Cat 4; please save the jeering for rbr), so a
couple of pounds, on the right course, at the right time, might be
the marginal advantage I need to get on the box.

Of course, I should train more, too.

Hey Cat 4 around here is pretty damn good and the top quarter is
fast.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mike Latondresse mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca said:

Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

well, surely you will go faster
but will the 2 lbs actualize your being or better yet turn you
into a podium dude?

Possibly yes. I routinely finish in the top quarter of races in
Cat 4 now (yes, Cat 4; please save the jeering for rbr), so a
couple of pounds, on the right course, at the right time, might be
the marginal advantage I need to get on the box.

Of course, I should train more, too.

Hey Cat 4 around here is pretty damn good and the top quarter is
fast.

Now that's what I like to hear!

Final assembly (cable cutting, drivetrain adjustment, seat and stem
positioning) should be complete tonight. Racing debut is Tuesday night,
usual place.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.