When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
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How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
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When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
Now.
How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
In six months, you get to vote. That is all.
CC
Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
Racist slur noted. Exactly the response one would expect from a dittohead.
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When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
Now.
How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
In six months, you get to vote. That is all.
CC
Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
Racist slur noted. Exactly the response one would expect from a dittohead.
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Anti-American scumbag response also noted. Please be informed that the Soviet Union no longer exists, comrade. You do not need to keep up the party line.
Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
We've killed over three times that many Muslim civilians since then. Is that enough "equivalence" for you to feel that torture and humiliation is wrong?
-- -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
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When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
Now.
How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
In six months, you get to vote. That is all.
CC
Was this one of the images taken from a US owned, Hungarian based [censored] site that was recently on news sites? Apparently some news agencies somehow picked these images up and ran them as authentic representations of prisoner abuse by American troops. Turns out they're just plain ol' [censored], but with camo.
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Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
We've killed over three times that many Muslim civilians since then. Is that enough "equivalence" for you to feel that torture and humiliation is wrong?
Torture? Ask Saddam about torture. Throwing living people into shredders is torture. Taking nude photos is closer to spring break in Ft Lauderdale, so put away your liberal outrage. As to your definition of civilians, I would put it to you that there is a subtle difference between an office worker forced to jump 90 stories to his death and a cowardly Baathist who takes pot shots at American soldiers and then runs to hide in his mosque. Let us be very clear that if we chose, we could kill every man, woman and child in Iraq in a week, so why do you suppose that we, evil incarnate, haven chosen not to?
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When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
Now.
How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
In six months, you get to vote. That is all.
Well, you know I'm not an American, CC, but I'm right with you on this, truly. I strongly and sincerely hope the situation improves after this next election.
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"Corvus Corvax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine > from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and > had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to > him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to
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Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
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I sincerely hope that when life teaches you the lessons you are lacking, it is not in too painful a manner.
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Yeah Arnold. I should have more compassion for terrorists and try to understand them. In fact I would like to apologize on behalf of my country for forcing them to repeatedly attack us. You Greenham Common types are all alike. I despise you.
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Is there some sort of equivalence here? 3000 dead Americans vs. some [censored] with a pixilated unit? You are a [censored].
We've killed over three times that many Muslim civilians since then. Is that enough "equivalence" for you to feel that torture and humiliation is wrong?
Torture? Ask Saddam about torture. Throwing living people into shredders is torture. Taking nude photos is closer to spring break in Ft Lauderdale, so put away your liberal outrage. As to your definition of civilians, I would put it to you that there is a subtle difference between an office worker forced to jump 90 stories to his death and a cowardly Baathist who takes pot shots at American soldiers and then runs to hide in his mosque. Let us be very clear that if we chose, we could kill every man, woman and child in Iraq in a week, so why do you suppose that we, evil incarnate, haven chosen not to?
How does demeaning ourselves by abusing others help us in the fight against terrorist and tyranny?
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I should have more compassion for terrorists and try to understand them.
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In fact I would like to apologize on behalf of my country for forcing them to repeatedly attack us.
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When I was in Europe a few weeks ago, I spoke with a friend of mine from Madrid. His wife had been a few minutes late for her train, and had therefore avoided being killed in the bombing. I apologized to him. I told him I was sorry for our country's shameful response to the tragedy in Spain, to call them cowards after we received the sympathy of the world on 9/11.
Now.
How do you think that a photograph of a (female!) U.S. soldier holding a naked Iraqi prisoner by a dog collar is going to play in the Mulsim world?
_I_ feel humiliated. The memory of every single life lost in my beautiful city has been dragged through the mud along with that poor man in the photo. I am without words.
In six months, you get to vote. That is all.
CC
Too bad I'm not allowed to vote yet. I wish I could. I really do.
How do I feel now? I feel like all this back and forth on the internet is a waste of time. Nobody is going to change the other's mind. I feel like going for a ride.
Alas, CC, I'm embarassed about my country's actions as you - but I'm sure you know discussing it on usenet will likely be an exercise in futility. I seriously doubt anyone is going to change their political beliefs by reading a mountain bike forum.
Well, you know I'm not an American, CC, but I'm right with you on this, truly. I strongly and sincerely hope the situation improves after this next election.
Hope and pray.
This is a country where 50% of the people actually fervently agree with the [censored] Critic, believe that Iraq had WMD at the time of Bush's war and had a connection with Al Qaeda. So you have an even bet for a regime change here. If you lose, get ready for Armageddon, because a substantial number of these neo-con creeps consider themselves "Christians" (what a joke) and actually believe they will be lifted off the earth by God in the "Rapture" when the apocalypse begins.
As Dave Barry would say, "I'm not making this up."
We live in a completely insane world where terrorist Muslim maniacs battle crazed "Christian" maniacs. Nothing has changed since the middle ages except the technology with which the wars may be fought. --dt
