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  1. Steve Calvin said:

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    Pierre,
    While this may be very good it certainly is not jerky, at least in


    the

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    traditional sense. Jerky isn't cooked. It's cured and cold smoked.


    Cold

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    smoking involves a temperature of around 85dF for substantial periods


    of

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    time.

    Hot smoking, which I also do is around 250dF-300dF tops but that's
    really a form of cooking with smoke. If you're doing this in 3 hours

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    I'll guarantee that you're hot smoking which doesn't product classic


    jerky.

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    --
    Steve

    Steve, you are absolutely correct. While cold smoking might produce
    what you want in a traditional style jerkey, Katra wanted to use an
    offset smoker. That being said, Katra got a little more perspective on
    what to expect in such a device. (I assumed that a cure will be used,
    as most jerkeys use it.)Its yummy no matter what you call it.

  2. Pierre said:


    Steve, you are absolutely correct. While cold smoking might produce
    what you want in a traditional style jerkey, Katra wanted to use an
    offset smoker. That being said, Katra got a little more perspective on
    what to expect in such a device. (I assumed that a cure will be used,
    as most jerkeys use it.)Its yummy no matter what you call it.

    No arguement with ya there sir. No matter how it's done, if it's good,
    it's worth it! ;-)

    --
    Steve

    Every job is a self-portrait of the person who did it.
    Autograph your work with excellence.

  3. "Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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    Biggest problem with making jerky in a smoker is keeping the temperature
    down. Jerky is cold smoked, not smoke cooked like barbecue. Instead of
    burning charcoal, consider using a hotplate with a pan of ships or
    sawdust
    on it to make the smoke. I do that for curing sausages and bacon. You
    can
    see my setup on my web page.

    Hmmmmm... I wonder if I cured and dried it first, then smoked it
    afterwards if that would help? I'm mainly looking for flavor and
    something to help inhibit mold more.

    --
    K.

    Edwin is correct. I make jerky all the time in an electric smoker. The
    normal procedure is to slice and marinate top round (on sale) using
    worchester, soy, garlic, onion powders, some sweet, and ground black pepper.
    Please don't ask the ratios I've been playing with them for years.

    Normally I prop up both the bottom of the barrel with chop sticks and I do
    the same with the lid. This allows an air flow as for me the object is to
    DRY not COOK the meat. At the lid I use an instant read thermometer to
    monitor the temperature. I try to keep it under 130 degrees. Please note
    many people recommend drying at over 160 degrees in order to kill any
    e-coli. I do not use ground beef ergo I have not had a problem.

    Dimitri
    Dimitri

  4. Dimitri said:

    "Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote:


    <Snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Biggest problem with making jerky in a smoker is keeping the temperature
    down. Jerky is cold smoked, not smoke cooked like barbecue. Instead of
    burning charcoal, consider using a hotplate with a pan of ships or
    sawdust
    on it to make the smoke. I do that for curing sausages and bacon. You
    can
    see my setup on my web page.

    Hmmmmm... I wonder if I cured and dried it first, then smoked it
    afterwards if that would help? I'm mainly looking for flavor and
    something to help inhibit mold more.

    Edwin is correct. I make jerky all the time in an electric smoker. The
    normal procedure is to slice and marinate top round (on sale) using
    worchester, soy, garlic, onion powders, some sweet, and ground black pepper.
    Please don't ask the ratios I've been playing with them for years.
    Normally I prop up both the bottom of the barrel with chop sticks and I do
    the same with the lid. This allows an air flow as for me the object is to
    DRY not COOK the meat. At the lid I use an instant read thermometer to
    monitor the temperature. I try to keep it under 130 degrees. Please note
    many people recommend drying at over 160 degrees in order to kill any
    e-coli. I do not use ground beef ergo I have not had a problem.

    My jerky notes mention that at least 1 teaspoon salt per pound of meat will help
    preserve it. I prefer 1.5 teaspoons for taste. We don't use soy at all because
    of an unpleasant aftertaste. Maybe I just buy cheap soysauce, I dunno.
    Edrena, jerkying in the Excalibur.

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