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  1. Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

  2. "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also


    the

    Quoted message said:

    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the


    same.

    Quoted message said:


    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive


    oil

    Quoted message said:

    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do


    anything.

    Quoted message said:

    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a


    food

    Quoted message said:

    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

    I would say likely/maybe/possibly, it's flash fried in VERY hot, smoking oil
    a-la wok stylie? Prolly why it tastes the same at the Chinese...

    Shaun aRe - 'my guess'.

  3. Shaun aRe said:


    "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also


    the

    Quoted message said:

    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the


    same.

    Quoted message said:


    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive


    oil

    Quoted message said:

    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do


    anything.

    Quoted message said:

    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a


    food

    Quoted message said:

    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

    I would say likely/maybe/possibly, it's flash fried in VERY hot, smoking
    oil a-la wok stylie? Prolly why it tastes the same at the Chinese...

    Shaun aRe - 'my guess'.

    Your'e probably right. The high temperatures you get in a commercial asian
    restaurants impart Wok Chi - breath of the wok.

    You can get something similar with an electric frypan if you set it on very
    high for 15 mins and stir fry in small portions with peanut oil.

    gtoomey

  4. "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also


    the

    Quoted message said:

    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the


    same.

    Quoted message said:


    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive


    oil

    Quoted message said:

    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do


    anything.

    Quoted message said:

    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a


    food

    Quoted message said:

    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?


    or it might be a drop or two of toasted sesame oil, often added to chow
    mein.
    cheers
    Wazza

  5. "Gregory Toomey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Shaun aRe wrote:

    <wordectomy perfomed>

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    Shaun aRe - 'my guess'.

    Your'e

    "probably"

    Don't like that word to follow 'you're'.

    "right."

    But that one I do like to follow it ',;~}~

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

  6. Squet said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

    i don't know for sure but i'd say that for the veggies, tossing them in a little
    bacon fat before you griddle them would lend a light smokeyness to them. as for
    the chinese, it's probably sesame oil in the wok that gives the smokey taste.

  7. Squet said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the same.

    Liquid Smoke? <G> Seriously, I wonder if part of it may be the very
    high temp, in combiniation with some other flavoring (sesame oil, etc)
    that just doesn't happen well at home temps.

  8. Squet said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

    Broiling/grilling veggies until they start to char can give them a smoky
    taste, but there's also a product called Liquid Smoke that I find
    *small* amounts of can make things taste smoky. Me, I don't love smoky
    things, so I seldom use it, but it gives a, ummmm... bacony? flavor to
    stuff.

    serene
    --
    http://serenejournal.livejournal.com
    http://www.jhuger.com

  9. Squet said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the same.

    The Chinese food might be from a good hot wokking.
    The other could be a variety of methods. I've never used liquid smoke,
    but some people do. A touch of smoked paprika (Spanish) can mingle in
    and leave smokiness. That is how I do it. If it is something I can stew
    a dried chapotle in, I do that, too.
    Tell us more about that side dish.
    blacksalt

  10. "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and also


    the

    Quoted message said:

    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste the


    same.

    Quoted message said:


    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in olive


    oil

    Quoted message said:

    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do


    anything.

    Quoted message said:

    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just a


    food

    Quoted message said:

    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the food
    somehow?

    Toasted sesame oil

    David

  11. "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little
    smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and
    also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste
    the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in
    olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do
    anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there
    just a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the
    food
    somehow?

    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid smoke.

  12. " BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little
    smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and
    also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste
    the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in
    olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do
    anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just
    a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the
    food
    somehow?

    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid smoke.

    Does anyone know what a UK equivalent would be?

    --
    Gorf

  13. Gorf said:
    BOB said:


    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid


    smoke.

    Quoted message said:


    Does anyone know what a UK equivalent would be?

    Gotta be mouthwash.

    Sheldon

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    "Squet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hi all,
    A restaurant I like going to makes their side veg taste a little
    smokey
    somehow, as if they've been par-boiled and then bbq'd lightly, and
    also the
    chinese takeaway up the road from us gets their chow mein to taste
    the same.

    I tried boiling veg, flushing with cold water and then tossing in
    olive oil
    & balsamic vinegar before griddling for a bit, but that didn't do
    anything.
    I was wondering if anyone knew how to get this flavour? Is there just
    a food
    flavouring agent one can use, or do you actually have to smoke the
    food
    somehow?

    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid smoke.

    Does anyone know what a UK equivalent would be?

    Just look for liquid smoke. Usually it literally is just that - wood
    chips/sawdust dust/etc. is heated under controlled conditions, then the
    smoke is condensed into a liquid, and bottled, maybe with a dilutant (water
    usually, 'IIRC'!)

    Shaun aRe

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    " BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid
    smoke.

    Does anyone know what a UK equivalent would be?


    Why?

    BOB

  16. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Gorf said:
    BOB said:


    Probably "Natural Hickory Wood Flavoring" also known as liquid
    smoke.

    Does anyone know what a UK equivalent would be?

    Gotta be mouthwash.

    Sheldon

    ROTFL!

    BOB

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