smell your saddle

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org is excellent.

/s

If I had a penis *that tiny, I wouldn't be dropping my drawers anywhere
in public!

--
Slacker

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org
is excellent.

/s

After seeing the link, I just had to ask "why".....now I know "why not".
Below is a bit of copy from one of the "sponsors". I'm *not* planning to
participate.

From "Artists Against War"
http://www.9monkeys.org/wisehallapril_f.htm
Why A Naked Bike Ride?
Every day we are bombarded with countless messages demanding our obedience
to the corporate dictates of a consumption dependent society. Little regard
is paid to the future of our planet and generations left with a legacy of
waste and environmental contamination.

How many countless times each day do our media masters spin the same
message:

Unless you buy this, you are not worthy.
Unless you look like this you should be ashamed.

By cruising naked down the spending frenzy capitals of the world, we are
saying.NO! ...a fancy new car is not a mark of distinction.
NO! ...I am not ugly just because I don't have the body of an anorexic
model.
NO! ...I don't need to spend thousands of dollars on pretentious clothes to
create a fake image.

Beauty and strength come from within, money can't buy true wealth, only
empty images. (But it can buy clothes to cover up your ugly ass!)

[email hidden] (supabonbon) had this to say
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Quoted message said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org is
excellent.

/s

EXCELLENT!!

"tcmedara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<a0Kcc.313$FE2.188@lakeread01>...

Quoted message said:

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org
is excellent.

/s

After seeing the link, I just had to ask "why".....now I know "why not".
Below is a bit of copy from one of the "sponsors". I'm *not* planning to
participate.

From "Artists Against War"
http://www.9monkeys.org/wisehallapril_f.htm
Why A Naked Bike Ride?
Every day we are bombarded with countless messages demanding our obedience
to the corporate dictates of a consumption dependent society. Little regard
is paid to the future of our planet and generations left with a legacy of
waste and environmental contamination.

How many countless times each day do our media masters spin the same
message:

Unless you buy this, you are not worthy.
Unless you look like this you should be ashamed.

By cruising naked down the spending frenzy capitals of the world, we are
saying.NO! ...a fancy new car is not a mark of distinction.
NO! ...I am not ugly just because I don't have the body of an anorexic
model.
NO! ...I don't need to spend thousands of dollars on pretentious clothes to
create a fake image.

Beauty and strength come from within, money can't buy true wealth, only
empty images. (But it can buy clothes to cover up your ugly ass!)

You disagree with all of these points? I'm sure a lot of these people
are going to lean a lot further left than I do, but the stuff you
cited is bang on in my book. Riding around nekkid looks a lot more
like living than the imitation of life you can buy yourself.

/s

Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org is excellent.

/s

If I had a penis *that tiny, I wouldn't be dropping my drawers anywhere
in public!

Hung like a chipmunk, eh, Slack-man?
--
Jonesy "thinks his handle is more descriptive than at first glance"

Jonesy said:

Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org
is excellent.

/s

If I had a penis *that tiny, I wouldn't be dropping my drawers
anywhere in public!

Hung like a chipmunk, eh, Slack-man?

Well, you need to take shrinkage into account there. Probably a little
chilly just swingin' in the breeze like that.

I think it's a cool idea, although I question the comfort and safety of
participating. But more power to those who do. Somehow I don't think it
would fly here in small-town Western Colorado. Even Spandex is considered
obscene by some of the old timers, and I don't think removing that (and any
other) fabrics would make them feel any differently.
I'd also feel a bit vulnerable (like one of those naked dreams - not the
good ones) riding up Main au natural and realizing I was one of only three
or four participants as the local authorities ready the fire hoses...

Matt

supabonbon said:

You disagree with all of these points? I'm sure a lot of these people
are going to lean a lot further left than I do, but the stuff you
cited is bang on in my book. Riding around nekkid looks a lot more
like living than the imitation of life you can buy yourself.

/s

I didn't give it enought thought to agree or disagree. I just think trying
to make a political statement by riding around nekkid is pretty damn funny!
Pretty stupid too, but funny either way.

Tom

Jonesy said:

Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

supabonbon said:

No matter what your politics are, http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org is excellent.

/s

If I had a penis *that tiny, I wouldn't be dropping my drawers anywhere
in public!

Hung like a chipmunk, eh, Slack-man?

lol more like baby squirrel ;-P
--
Slacker

tcmedara said:

supabonbon said:

You disagree with all of these points? I'm sure a lot of these people
are going to lean a lot further left than I do, but the stuff you
cited is bang on in my book.

I was thinking the same thing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Riding around nekkid looks a lot more
like living than the imitation of life you can buy yourself.

I didn't give it enought thought to agree or disagree. I just think trying
to make a political statement by riding around nekkid is pretty damn funny!
Pretty stupid too, but funny either way.

Well just how does one make a political statement, professor?

Enlighten us. Tell us how it's done.

To me this just seems like a low-volume critical mass, but with an
element of humor.

How does Joe Chevy feel about it when a real critical mass goes down,
and he can't get through an intersection for 5 turns of the traffic
lights because of cyclists clogging the road? Then how does he feel
about it when it happens for one traffic light cycle, and there are
19-year-old girls riding slowly past, au natural?

Seems like a very effective way to make a political statement to me.

YMMV.
--
Tom Purvis - http://www.arkansasvalley.net/tpurvis/
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."-Bertrand Russell

Quoted message said:

Then how does he feel
about it when it happens for one traffic light cycle, and there are
19-year-old girls riding slowly past, au natural?

<reality>
Then how does he feel about it when it happens for one traffic light cycle, and
there are retirement-age men and women riding slowly past au naturel?
</reality>

I DID like your version better, though ;-)

Steve

Tom Purvis said:

tcmedara said:

supabonbon said:

You disagree with all of these points? I'm sure a lot of these
people are going to lean a lot further left than I do, but the
stuff you cited is bang on in my book.

I was thinking the same thing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Riding around nekkid looks a lot more
like living than the imitation of life you can buy yourself.

I didn't give it enought thought to agree or disagree. I just think
trying to make a political statement by riding around nekkid is
pretty damn funny! Pretty stupid too, but funny either way.

Well just how does one make a political statement, professor?

Enlighten us. Tell us how it's done.

To me this just seems like a low-volume critical mass, but with an
element of humor.

There are lots of means of political expression, as I'm sure you are aware.
I too think this is funny, very funny. However, the passage posted in my OP
was funny primarily because the folks were taking the thing WAY to
seriously. Riding your bike can be a great political statement, riding your
bike nekkid and expecting to be taken seriously is just plain silly. That's
all I'm trying to say. Real political action and naked bike riding are
pretty much oxymoronic. Having something to say is fine. Saying it
without any clothes on may attract more attention, but it doesn't contribute
to the weight of the message.

Quoted message said:

How does Joe Chevy feel about it when a real critical mass goes down,
and he can't get through an intersection for 5 turns of the traffic
lights because of cyclists clogging the road? Then how does he feel
about it when it happens for one traffic light cycle, and there are
19-year-old girls riding slowly past, au natural?

He'll go "WTF?" and then go home and watch TV. Anyone with any serious
intellect will chalk it up to a bunch of radical wannabes who cant
distinguish political speech from an illiterate grunt. Absolute confusion
of message and medium. The mistaken impression that force of argument is
enhanced through form of delivery. It's funny. If folks wanna ride nekkid,
then great. If they think riding nekkid is the way to promote a message,
then I would suggest more credible means to do so.

Quoted message said:

Seems like a very effective way to make a political statement to me.

I makes a farce of the issue IMO, but it's still funny.

Quoted message said:

YMMV.

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Quoted message said:

Tom Purvis said:

tcmedara said:

supabonbon <[email hidden]> wrote:
> You disagree with all of these points? I'm sure a lot of these
> people are going to lean a lot further left than I do, but the
> stuff you cited is bang on in my book.

I was thinking the same thing.

Quoted message said:

> Riding around nekkid looks a lot more
> like living than the imitation of life you can buy yourself.

I didn't give it enought thought to agree or disagree. I just think
trying to make a political statement by riding around nekkid is
pretty damn funny! Pretty stupid too, but funny either way.

Well just how does one make a political statement, professor?

Enlighten us. Tell us how it's done.

To me this just seems like a low-volume critical mass, but with an
element of humor.

There are lots of means of political expression, as I'm sure you are aware.
I too think this is funny, very funny. However, the passage posted in my OP
was funny primarily because the folks were taking the thing WAY to
seriously. Riding your bike can be a great political statement, riding your
bike nekkid and expecting to be taken seriously is just plain silly. That's
all I'm trying to say. Real political action and naked bike riding are
pretty much oxymoronic. Having something to say is fine. Saying it
without any clothes on may attract more attention, but it doesn't contribute
to the weight of the message.

Quoted message said:

How does Joe Chevy feel about it when a real critical mass goes down,
and he can't get through an intersection for 5 turns of the traffic
lights because of cyclists clogging the road? Then how does he feel
about it when it happens for one traffic light cycle, and there are
19-year-old girls riding slowly past, au natural?

He'll go "WTF?" and then go home and watch TV. Anyone with any serious
intellect will chalk it up to a bunch of radical wannabes who cant
distinguish political speech from an illiterate grunt. Absolute confusion
of message and medium. The mistaken impression that force of argument is
enhanced through form of delivery. It's funny. If folks wanna ride nekkid,
then great. If they think riding nekkid is the way to promote a message,
then I would suggest more credible means to do so.

Quoted message said:

Seems like a very effective way to make a political statement to me.

I makes a farce of the issue IMO, but it's still funny.

Quoted message said:

YMMV.

I don't know. Have you noticed the political weight of Janet Jackson's [censored]?

/s

(supabonbon) said:

tcmedara said:

Tom Purvis <[email hidden]> wrote:
enhanced through form of delivery. It's funny. If folks wanna
ride nekkid, then great. If they think riding nekkid is the way
to promote a message, then I would suggest more credible means to do so.

Quoted message said:

Seems like a very effective way to make a political statement to me.

I makes a farce of the issue IMO, but it's still funny.

So, people who think that the world is being run into the ground should
put on a suit and hold a press conference or something? Which is the more
futile gesture, riding nekkid or calling a press conference that nobody
will show up to? Seems like the bike streakers at least get to have a
slice of fuggin' LIFE out of their futile gesture.

Quoted message said:

I don't know. Have you noticed the political weight of Janet
Jackson's [censored]?

Excellent point. What was she trying to say? Hard to tell from where
I sit, but it's not hard to tell that she wouldn't have gotten ANYBODY
to hear it if she'd given a press conference. Fully clothed.

Don't really want to argue with you Tom, but I would ask you to think:

Is there *anything* that people should DO when they don't like the way
the world is going? You seem to say "yes, something more dignified
than riding nekkid" but you never offer any examples of a better tactic.

So what should we do? Call a press conference? Go home, pop a Coors
Light and watch TV, maybe kick the dog later?
--
Tom Purvis - http://www.arkansasvalley.net/tpurvis/
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."-Bertrand Russell

Tom Purvis <[email hidden]> wrote:
(snippage)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know. Have you noticed the political weight of Janet
Jackson's [censored]?

Excellent point. What was she trying to say? Hard to tell from where
I sit, but it's not hard to tell that she wouldn't have gotten ANYBODY
to hear it if she'd given a press conference. Fully clothed.

But she didn't say a damn thing! It was her [censored] that did all the talking,
and she probably still doesn't have a clue what really happened. That whole
scene is mere political phenomenon, not any sort of statement. The real
political statements came afterwords by those who were primarily fully
clothed.

Quoted message said:

Don't really want to argue with you Tom, but I would ask you to think:

Is there *anything* that people should DO when they don't like the way
the world is going? You seem to say "yes, something more dignified
than riding nekkid" but you never offer any examples of a better
tactic.

Just cause I think naked biking is a silly way to express a political
message doesn't obligate me to offer alternatives. C'mon, Tom you're
obviously smarter than that, of course there are other ways to express
themselves politically. I really don't think you need me to list off the
available options. Besides, I'm no political activist and if you really
want to know I'm sure you could manage to find a few other methods of
political expression . Try here: http://tinyurl.com/2b29p . Riding nekkid
is obviously a valid form of political expression, I don't deny that. Just
because it's original doesn't mean I have to take it seriously, though. I
also fully support their right to express their political views in a lawful
manner. I just think it's silly. Same thing with Nader and Sharpton --
just cause they both run for President doesn't mean they should be taken
seriously. Bob Dornan is one on the other side of the spectrum. The guy
is dead serious and earnest in what he says, but he's still an absolute
caricature in the political process. Naked riding is to political activity
as canned soup is to fine dining. Obviously you disagree, but that's how I
see it.

I was just struck by the contrast between the spectacle of a naked version
of critical mass accompanied by the oh-so-serious manifesto from the
"artists against war." That's all. Hey, they should go ahead and ride
naked if it makes 'em happy. Regardless of that, it doesn't lend anymore
weight to the message. And I'll laugh at them, just like I do most of the
self styled "radicals" who confuse motion with progress.

Tom