Smart Device (phone) - Anyone use these?

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The Magnificent censored said:

My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

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I am leaning towards the Treo 600, I know a couple of
people who have one and they like it. I sort of would like
one that uses Win CE, but don't know anyone who's tried a
Smart Device that uses that OS.

My PDA uses the Palm OS so I am equally familiar with both
operating systems. Most important to me is ease of use,
ease of sync'ing it to my laptop and call quality/clarity.
I also don't want to have to carry a PDA *and* a cell
phone anymore.

All opinions welcomed. Would like to hear pros/cons and
experiences people have had with Smart Devices.

Sprint charges double for Vision on a Win CE phone.

Palm phones are not 100% compatible as a Palm, and every
once in a while some third party app won't function like you
expect, or cause lockups.

Most folks who use the Treo 600 really like it.

It has a few possible drawbacks.

1. The phone does not have analog capability. You get in the
boonies in Connecticut for instance away from the main
roads, you have no Service.

2. The camera is been rated as poor.

3. The Palm screen resolution is 160 x 160, not 320 x 320
like most current Palms, or Clies or Palm phones due out
in the fall.

4. It uses Palm OS 5.0 and thus no existing Blue Tooth
adapter works with it.

5. It's pricey.

Only you can decide if those factors might negatively
impact you.

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In article <[email hidden]>, The

Magnificent censored said:

My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

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I am leaning towards the Treo 600, I know a couple of
people who have one and they like it. I sort of would
like one that uses Win CE, but don't know anyone who's
tried a Smart Device that uses that OS.

My PDA uses the Palm OS so I am equally familiar with
both operating systems. Most important to me is ease of
use, ease of sync'ing it to my laptop and call
quality/clarity. I also don't want to have to carry a
PDA *and* a cell phone anymore.

All opinions welcomed. Would like to hear pros/cons and
experiences people have had with Smart Devices.

Sprint charges double for Vision on a Win CE phone.

When you say "double for Vision" could you be more specific?

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Palm phones are not 100% compatible as a Palm, and every
once in a while some third party app won't function like
you expect, or cause lockups.

Most folks who use the Treo 600 really like it.

It has a few possible drawbacks.

1. The phone does not have analog capability. You get in
the boonies in Connecticut for instance away from the
main roads, you have no Service.

Hmmmmm.........not good.

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2. The camera is been rated as poor.

Not that important, I already have a digital camera.

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3. The Palm screen resolution is 160 x 160, not 320 x 320
like most current Palms, or Clies or Palm phones due
out in the fall.

Hmmmm...........sounds like I should wait until Fall. What I
really don't want to do is buy a Smart Device and then have
a better version come out a couple months later.

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4. It uses Palm OS 5.0 and thus no existing Blue Tooth
adapter works with it.

I'm not too concerned with Blue Tooth. It's nice but it's
not a necessity.

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5. It's pricey.

My company will pay for it, so I don't mind.

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Only you can decide if those factors might negatively
impact you.

Thanks for the input.

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My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

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You might look for a phone that is smart enough to tell you
not to post phone questions to cooking and Sopranos
newsgroups.

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The Magnificent censored said:

Hmmmm...........sounds like I should wait until Fall. What
I really don't want to do is buy a Smart Device and then
have a better version come out a couple months later.

On the other hand you wait till fall, by then there'll still
be a better device on the horizon. If you like the Treo 600,
go for it.

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Is what may be available from Sprint in 6 months.

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is available from Verizon now.

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My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

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You might look for a phone that is smart enough to tell
you not to post phone questions to cooking and Sopranos
newsgroups.

Which one would you recommend?

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Peter Aitken said:

You might look for a phone that is smart enough to tell
you not to post phone questions to cooking and Sopranos
newsgroups.

Why? They aren't allow to have valued opinions about
Palm Phones?

I think a Treo with a garlic Butter Sauce might be
interesting.

The Magnificent censored said:

My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am thinking
about getting a Smart Device (phone).

Looks like you could use all the smarts you can get
your hands on.

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My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern

part

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of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I currently use Sprint
as a wireless provider and am thinking about getting a
Smart Device (phone). Anyone use these -

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You might look for a phone that is smart enough to tell
you not to post phone questions to cooking and Sopranos
newsgroups.

Which one would you recommend?

I think a block of wood with the buttons drawn on would suit
you just fine.

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You will not go wrong with Treo 600. Reception is
outstanding - it's Dual band digital 800/1900. The
speakerphone feature is very good as well. The phone/palm
integration is superb.

The small qwerty keyboard will need a little getting used to
but overall you will not go wrong with this investment.

You should go to www.treocentral.com to check on
accessories.

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Quoted message said:

My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

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I am leaning towards the Treo 600, I know a couple of
people who have one and they like it. I sort of would like
one that uses Win CE, but don't know anyone who's tried a
Smart Device that uses that OS.

My PDA uses the Palm OS so I am equally familiar with both
operating systems. Most important to me is ease of use,
ease of sync'ing it to my laptop and call quality/clarity.
I also don't want to have to carry a PDA *and* a cell
phone anymore.

All opinions welcomed. Would like to hear pros/cons and
experiences people have had with Smart Devices.

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PS: My treo dual band is on Sprint

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Quoted message said:

You will not go wrong with Treo 600. Reception is
outstanding - it's Dual band digital 800/1900. The
speakerphone feature is very good as well. The phone/palm
integration

is

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superb.

The small qwerty keyboard will need a little getting used
to but overall

you

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will not go wrong with this investment.

You should go to www.treocentral.com to check on
accessories.

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Quoted message said:

My new job will entail fairly extensive travel in the
northeastern part of the US. NY, NJ, PA, MA, etc. I
currently use Sprint as a wireless provider and am
thinking about getting a Smart Device (phone). Anyone
use these -

tinyurl.com38rm9Open ↗

tinyurl.com22kqjOpen ↗

I am leaning towards the Treo 600, I know a couple of
people who have one and they like it. I sort of would
like one that uses Win CE, but don't know anyone who's
tried a Smart Device that uses that OS.

My PDA uses the Palm OS so I am equally familiar with
both operating systems. Most important to me is ease of
use, ease of sync'ing it to my laptop and call
quality/clarity. I also don't want to have to carry a
PDA *and* a cell phone anymore.

All opinions welcomed. Would like to hear pros/cons and
experiences people have had with Smart Devices.

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RonInCal said:

PS: My treo dual band is on Sprint

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You will not go wrong with Treo 600. Reception is
outstanding - it's Dual band digital 800/1900.

CDMA only, no Analog

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The speakerphone feature is very good as well. The
phone/palm integration

is

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superb.

The small qwerty keyboard will need a little getting
used to but overall

you

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will not go wrong with this investment.

Luckily the OP says he company is paying.

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You should go to www.treocentral.com to check on
accessories.

Ebay likely has lower prices for third party accessories.
(Cases, car chargers, USB cables).

The treo 600 is a lot more 'efficient' with memory
management than any PocketPC / WinCE device. That's just one
of the drawbacks of Microsoft OS'es.

But the Treo600 has been doing very well, good call
quality, durable, and from most people that I talk to was
worth the price.

"Robert M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<rmarkoff-
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Palm phones are not 100% compatible as a Palm, and every
once in a while some third party app won't function like
you expect, or cause lockups.

Which is true on any PalmOS device, mainly be cautious
and keep track of what you install and when incase
lockups do occur.

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2. The camera is been rated as poor.

A lot of people eexpect to take photo quality shots with
their camera phones, but it won't happen without something
like PhotoShop to back you up. The resolution is 640X480.

You will not get the same quality that you do in your
average 1-3 Megapixel digital camera.

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(TechGeek) said:

The treo 600 is a lot more 'efficient' with memory
management than any PocketPC / WinCE device. That's just
one of the drawbacks of Microsoft OS'es.

But the Treo600 has been doing very well, good call
quality, durable, and from most people that I talk to was
worth the price.

"Robert M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<rmarkoff-
[email hidden]>...

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Palm phones are not 100% compatible as a Palm, and every
once in a while some third party app won't function like
you expect, or cause lockups.

Which is true on any PalmOS device, mainly be cautious
and keep track of what you install and when incase
lockups do occur.

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2. The camera is been rated as poor

{snip} why did you snip here?

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A lot of people eexpect to take photo quality shots with
their camera phones, but it won't happen without something
like PhotoShop to back you up. The resolution is 640X480.

You will not get the same quality that you do in your
average 1-3 Megapixel digital camera.

The Treo also has no Flash, and gives poor results even
taking into account its resolution.

For many people its a wonderful device. No one should buy it
because of the camera.

And you left out its biggest flaw. It has no analog
capability. One gets off the beaten path, you have no Analog
capability to roam with in case of an emergency.

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Peter Aitken said:

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Which one would you recommend?

I think a block of wood with the buttons drawn on would
suit you just fine.

If you get out in rural areas with only Analog Networks
available, your block of wood would do just as good as a
Treo 600, as the Treo 600 has no Analog capability.

RonInCal said:

You will not go wrong with Treo 600. Reception is
outstanding - it's Dual band digital 800/1900. The
speakerphone feature is very good as well. The phone/palm
integration is superb.

The small qwerty keyboard will need a little getting used
to but overall you will not go wrong with this investment.

...and if you can get used to Graffiti 2 (i.e., Jot!),
install Graffiti Anywhere and you can skip the keyboard.
(Look it up on Google)

Robert M. said:

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A lot of people eexpect to take photo quality shots with
their camera phones, but it won't happen without
something like PhotoShop to back you up. The resolution
is 640X480.

You will not get the same quality that you do in your
average 1-3 Megapixel digital camera.

The Treo also has no Flash, and gives poor results even
taking into account its resolution.

The Treo's camera is just as good as any other phone
camera -- which is to say that it's a waste of space,
money, and weight.

You want a camera? Buy a camera!

I love my Treo 600, but that camera was just a stupid
gimmick.

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For many people its a wonderful device. No one should buy
it because of the camera.

And you left out its biggest flaw. It has no analog
capability. One gets off the beaten path, you have no
Analog capability to roam with in case of an emergency.

True -- so don't turn in your old analog phone when you buy
the Treo. Throw it in your glove compartment, and give it a
charge every once in a while. 911 service should be
available without activation.

I also would have preferred to have the analog capability,
but then I realized that in 6 years of having a cell phone,
I had *NEVER* used it in analog mode.

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I love my Treo 600, but that camera was just a stupid
gimmick.

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For many people its a wonderful device. No one should
buy it because of the camera.

And you left out its biggest flaw. It has no analog
capability. One gets off the beaten path, you have no
Analog capability to roam with in case of an emergency.

True -- so don't turn in your old analog phone when you
buy the Treo. Throw it in your glove compartment, and give
it a charge every once in a while. 911 service should be
available without activation.

A possible work around for some.

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I also would have preferred to have the analog capability,
but then I realized that in 6 years of having a cell
phone, I had *NEVER* used it in analog mode.

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I love my Treo 600, but that camera was just a stupid
gimmick.

Question....

Do you really feel that combining a PDA and a cell phone
into ONE device is a good idea?

Ive been looking at the HP Ipaq 4355 stand alone PDA.....and
thinking on keeping a simple single purpose cell phone to
use with it.

But.... then on other days I think Ive decided on a combo
device like the Treo 600

Bottom line I change my mind daily! HAHA

Soo..... what's your opinion?

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Quoted message said:

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I love my Treo 600, but that camera was just a stupid
gimmick.

Question....

Do you really feel that combining a PDA and a cell phone
into ONE device is a good idea?

Ive been looking at the HP Ipaq 4355 stand alone
PDA.....and thinking on keeping a simple single purpose
cell phone to use with it.

But.... then on other days I think Ive decided on a combo
device like the Treo 600

Bottom line I change my mind daily! HAHA

Soo..... what's your opinion?

All that counts is how do much you want to carry and whether
one device will fit your needs better than two.

Bob