Slowly, slowly

Alan said:

A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200.

Three months in you've had time to internalize the
fact that the ideal rate of loss to keep it off is
4 per month. Faster tends to happen on fad diets
where the regains are more common. Twice the ideal
rate does *not* qualify with the word slowly once.
It isn't in the same league as the word slowly
twice.

Quoted message said:

I've stayed away from
the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
feeling good. Let's keep it going!

Yes. Excellent progress resulting from excellent
actions.

Thanks - well, ok, you're right: losing 2 pounds a week is probably a
bit faster than ideal (isn't it generally said that you shouldn't aim
to lose more than about 1 pound per week?). However I would think
anybody's weight would fluctuate a little from day to day anyway so I'm
not reading too much into just two data points - but it's nice to know
that I seem to be heading in the right direction - and I'm pleased that
I've bitten the bullet & overcome my phobia of bathroom scales.

Best wishes.
Alan.

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I thought
I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off during
the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier for
me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I am
fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

Alan said:

A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200. I've stayed away from
the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
feeling good. Let's keep it going!

Thanks - but it's no big deal really! I live in Central London and I
only live two and a half miles from my office in The City (the
financial district), so it seemed like a good idea to walk to work in
the morning & home again in the evening. Takes 40-45 minutes each way,
which - believe it or not - is only about 10 minutes slower than taking
the bus (yes, the traffic in London is every bit as bad as you would
imagine). It's a nice walk as well - the quickest route is also the
quietest, so I can spend most of the time walking along quiet "olde
worlde" cobbled streets with almost no traffic (rather than having
buses and lorries thundering past me).

I should have done this a long time ago! I guess my shoe leather will
wear out a bit quicker but then I'll save $3 a day on bus fares so I
guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.

I might change my mind come January if we get a spell of cold grey
windy weather; but for the time being it's fine!

Alan said:

losing 2 pounds a week is probably a
bit faster than ideal

Funny how no one ever seems to complain that they are
losing faster than the ideal rate. ;^)

Quoted message said:

(isn't it generally said that you shouldn't aim
to lose more than about 1 pound per week?).

Sure but the time scale for loss can't be week-to-week
so I always phrase it as 4 per month. It's only a
rate of 1 per week after being averaged across a few
months, not any similarity at all to one each and
every week.

Quoted message said:

However I would think
anybody's weight would fluctuate a little from day to day anyway so I'm
not reading too much into just two data points

Water fluctuation is noise added to the signal.
It is important the view the trend not any one data
point. Try to derive meaning from any pair of data
points closer together than a month and it's far
too likely to be swamped by noise. Weighings on
two consequative days are almost guaranteed to reveal
signal noise not signal meaning.

Quoted message said:

but it's nice to know
that I seem to be heading in the right direction - and I'm pleased that
I've bitten the bullet & overcome my phobia of bathroom scales.

Eventually it is necessary to overcome that phobia.
Early on weekly weighings make sense to the extend
the phobia still exists. By the time you are preparing
for the transistion to maintenance the phobia needs to
be removed because then daily weighings become important.
It becomes necessary to know the size of your water
rentention swing then and that takes daily weighings for
a while, but early on you don't need to know the size of
the swing just it's existance. Context and perspective.

Thanks Doug - agree 100% with you.

Nice to see you Laureen. I was just thinking of you today. How are you
doing?

Hugs,
Nicole

On 21 Oct 2005 15:28:36 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I thought
I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off during
the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier for
me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I am
fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

Alan said:

A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200. I've stayed away from
the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
feeling good. Let's keep it going!

Ohhh..... taking my hits I guess LOL. Larrys dad died the 10th. We were
scheduled for a flight out to Cancun mid Nov. for a weeks vacation with
11 family members. Larrys sister was going to get married at the base
of some Mayan ruins then of course the hurricane hit. The place is
devastated. Our hotel had a swimming pool but it is now a salt water
pool if you know what I mean. The flights are cancelled in and out. The
windows have been blown out of buildings, trees are down, no phones,
and no power. We had non refundable tickets and best we get is a
voucher for a later flight. SO now we are trying to get a flight to
Puerto Vallarta instead. What a mess!

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

Nice to see you Laureen. I was just thinking of you today. How are you
doing?

Hugs,
Nicole

On 21 Oct 2005 15:28:36 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I thought
I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off during
the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier for
me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I am
fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

Alan said:

A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200. I've stayed away from
the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
feeling good. Let's keep it going!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I

thought

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off

during

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

3mph is great laureen!
if i had a bus around here, i would walk exactly the way you
do........................
good to see a post from you again!
rosie

Who wooda thunk it!!! I make my husband and daughter eat my dust! I do
the hills and don't have to stop anymore. I love a nice incline that
goes for quite a few blocks. Ya work up a bit of a sweat and its great
cardio. I walk until my legs feel a bit tired and I quit. I cant do
more than 3 miles. I leave the house about 45 minutes before my
daughters Saturday soccer to the park where her game is and it is
pretty funny hearing the honk honk of the horn as the other two pass me
in the truck waving at me. I ride back with them. I walk to the grocery
store, put the goods in my backpack and hop the bus home too. The
evening walks are quite crisp right now but the 3 of us do them
together.

I'm still fat but I'm hoping when I'm all done I can take a 5 mile
walk. I used to hate walking as it hurt my back so but now I love
it!!!!!
Laureen

rosie read n' post said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I

thought

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off

during

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

3mph is great laureen!
if i had a bus around here, i would walk exactly the way you
do........................
good to see a post from you again!
rosie

Shocking.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Laureen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm still fat

Sounds like life has thrown you a few curves lately, huh? Sorry to
hear it, but hang in.

Hugs,
Nicole

On 25 Oct 2005 07:15:09 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Ohhh..... taking my hits I guess LOL. Larrys dad died the 10th. We were
scheduled for a flight out to Cancun mid Nov. for a weeks vacation with
11 family members. Larrys sister was going to get married at the base
of some Mayan ruins then of course the hurricane hit. The place is
devastated. Our hotel had a swimming pool but it is now a salt water
pool if you know what I mean. The flights are cancelled in and out. The
windows have been blown out of buildings, trees are down, no phones,
and no power. We had non refundable tickets and best we get is a
voucher for a later flight. SO now we are trying to get a flight to
Puerto Vallarta instead. What a mess!

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

Nice to see you Laureen. I was just thinking of you today. How are you
doing?

Hugs,
Nicole

On 21 Oct 2005 15:28:36 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I thought
I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off during
the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier for
me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I am
fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
walking 3 miles an hour.
Laureen

Alan wrote:
> A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200. I've stayed away from
> the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
> feeling good. Let's keep it going!

Uhh Yeah!!!..... but it all worked out. Frontier gave us a credit to
fly within one year using the oney we paid for Cancun. We may go to
Cancun or Mazatlan next year on that prepaid batch of tickets. At least
we didnt throw away the $2400.00 for the tickets. So....... we rebooked
and are still going on vacation on a different airline though. We are
headed to Puerto Vallarta mid Nov for a couple of weeks. There are 10
of us adult family members and my daughter and we found an adorable
villa for $1600 for 11 day!!! We split it by days and we pay like $10 a
day per person!!!!!!!! Larry and I have the last flight out the next
day after everyone else leaves and the lady who owns it lives in Ca.
She charged us a measily $50 for the whole big house for one last day.
Where can you go for 11 days and spend like $350 for housing?? The
water is 5 blocks away and the place has A/C kitchen, dishwasher,
washer and dryer etc!!! Plus!! 50 steps to go up to the main street!
Good exercise! None of us are renting a car even. We have nothing but
time so will walk walk walk everywhere.

We are then flying home right before Thanksgiving and are going to stay
in a hotel in Seattle and have Thanksgiving with my Dad. He doesn't
travel well right now so we thought we would take him out for turkey
day dinner.

Things are just a bit brighter now.
Laureen

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

Sounds like life has thrown you a few curves lately, huh? Sorry to
hear it, but hang in.

Hugs,
Nicole

On 25 Oct 2005 07:15:09 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Ohhh..... taking my hits I guess LOL. Larrys dad died the 10th. We were
scheduled for a flight out to Cancun mid Nov. for a weeks vacation with
11 family members. Larrys sister was going to get married at the base
of some Mayan ruins then of course the hurricane hit. The place is
devastated. Our hotel had a swimming pool but it is now a salt water
pool if you know what I mean. The flights are cancelled in and out. The
windows have been blown out of buildings, trees are down, no phones,
and no power. We had non refundable tickets and best we get is a
voucher for a later flight. SO now we are trying to get a flight to
Puerto Vallarta instead. What a mess!

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

Nice to see you Laureen. I was just thinking of you today. How are you
doing?

Hugs,
Nicole

On 21 Oct 2005 15:28:36 -0700, "Laureen" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

> WOW! 5 miles a day! I applaud you. Thats a great walk Alan. I thought
>I was doing good with 2 or 3 miles a day. I have been taking off during
>the morning after I get my daughter off to school. I walk until I am
>tired, go to a bus stop and take public transit home. It is easier for
>me to do than say I will walk to point X and back. I dont know if I am
>fast but when I go to track my mileage and time later I have been
>walking 3 miles an hour.
>Laureen
>
>
>
>
>Alan wrote:
>> A week ago was 260/248/200. Now 260/246/200. I've stayed away from
>> the beer this week, eaten well, been walking 5 miles a day and am
>> feeling good. Let's keep it going!