Slime liner sliced my inner tube

Kooky45 said:

Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

Use Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres.

--
Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
"The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

Quoted message said:

I'd read a warning before buying them about this possibly happening,
but the positive comments on the liners were overwhelming so I'm
shocked that it's true. I doubt I can trust the inner tube now that
it's been badly weakened, and I'll have to replace the tube in the
front tyre too as I expect it's suffered the same damage. I hope
Wiggle refund me the cost of the liners cos I'm having to buy two new
inner tubes now. Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

You can't be serious. You fitted a component after reading about it causing
problems yet still expect a refund?

You'll never totally eliminate punctures. You can reduce the frequency of
getting punctures by:

Choosing appropriate tyres
Replacing tyres when they are very worn
Using correct inflation pressures
Avoiding glass and thorn strewn surfaces.

vernon said:

Quoted message said:

I'd read a warning before buying them about this possibly happening,
but the positive comments on the liners were overwhelming so I'm
shocked that it's true. I doubt I can trust the inner tube now that
it's been badly weakened, and I'll have to replace the tube in the
front tyre too as I expect it's suffered the same damage. I hope
Wiggle refund me the cost of the liners cos I'm having to buy two new
inner tubes now. Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

You can't be serious. You fitted a component after reading about it causing
problems yet still expect a refund?

You'll never totally eliminate punctures. You can reduce the frequency of
getting punctures by:

Choosing appropriate tyres
Replacing tyres when they are very worn
Using correct inflation pressures
Avoiding glass and thorn strewn surfaces.

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle. I
expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought. More money down the drain. I do
a lot of night riding and really need to avoid punctures, or paint my
tyre irons in florescent colours so I can find them the next time they
ping off the wheel into the darkness.

vernon said:

You'll never totally eliminate punctures. You can reduce the
frequency of getting punctures by:

Choosing appropriate tyres
Replacing tyres when they are very worn
Using correct inflation pressures
Avoiding glass and thorn strewn surfaces.

....Specifically by avoiding the edges of roads where glass and debris tends
to collect, and avoiding foot/cycle lanes and paths altogether unless you
have really tough tyres.

Extra puncture resistance is needed if you ride a lot in the wet as well, as
objects penetrate more easily when wet.

~PB

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I just got back from a bike ride and a long walk where I had a
puncture caused by my brand new Slime tyre liners in my mountain bike.
Yes... it's 9 at night. It had sliced through the inner tube inside my
rear tyre. The liner has left a permanent impression of itself on the
rubber of the inner tube, a clear score following the edges of the
liner, and the slice is about a centimeter long right beside the
overlap where the two ends of the liner meet. I didn't modify the
liners in any way and followed the installation instructions exactly.
I'd read a warning before buying them about this possibly happening,
but the positive comments on the liners were overwhelming so I'm
shocked that it's true. I doubt I can trust the inner tube now that
it's been badly weakened, and I'll have to replace the tube in the
front tyre too as I expect it's suffered the same damage. I hope
Wiggle refund me the cost of the liners cos I'm having to buy two new
inner tubes now. Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

That's a standard and well known problem with tyre liners. The best you
can do to reduce it is to take a soldering iron and feather the edge
that caused the cut by melting and smoothing it. Personally I would put
them in the bin and given you went ahead despite the warnings you read,
you can hardly return them for doing something unexpected.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle. I
expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought.

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Kooky45 said:

vernon said:

Quoted message said:

I'd read a warning before buying them about this possibly happening,
but the positive comments on the liners were overwhelming so I'm
shocked that it's true. I doubt I can trust the inner tube now that
it's been badly weakened, and I'll have to replace the tube in the
front tyre too as I expect it's suffered the same damage. I hope
Wiggle refund me the cost of the liners cos I'm having to buy two new
inner tubes now. Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

You can't be serious. You fitted a component after reading about it causing
problems yet still expect a refund?

You'll never totally eliminate punctures. You can reduce the frequency of
getting punctures by:

Choosing appropriate tyres
Replacing tyres when they are very worn
Using correct inflation pressures
Avoiding glass and thorn strewn surfaces.

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle.

Not to you.

I

Quoted message said:

expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought. More money down the drain. I do
a lot of night riding and really need to avoid punctures, or paint my
tyre irons in florescent colours so I can find them the next time they
ping off the wheel into the darkness.

If you buy flourescent paint and then find that it doesn't flouresce in
the absence of UV ie when dark, will you also blame the paint makers?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Kooky45
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I just got back from a bike ride and a long walk where I had a
puncture caused by my brand new Slime tyre liners in my mountain bike.
Yes... it's 9 at night. It had sliced through the inner tube inside my
rear tyre.

They do that. But you were told already, so you shouldn't be surprised,
should you?

Danny Colyer said:

Kooky45 said:

Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

Use Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres.

Seconded. The other day I went round picking out flints and thorns from mine and was
amazed at what I'd picked up over the summer. Some wicked flints and at a guess I'd say
4-5 punctures-worth.

--
Peter Fox
Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle. I
expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought.

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

You'd be much better off using tyres with a puncture protection layer built
in, than putting liners inside tyres that don't.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

In news:[email hidden],
Tony Raven <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
us:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle. I
expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought.

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

They are, however, this: rubbish.

Mine dissolved :-(

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Oxymoron: spot cream for chavs.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

You'd be much better off using tyres with a puncture protection layer built
in, than putting liners inside tyres that don't.

That's fine if the tyres you want are available with puncture
protection. That's generally not the case unless you are willing to go
with a limited selection and more so on mountain bike tyres

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Kooky45 said:

I just got back from a bike ride and a long walk where I had a
puncture caused by my brand new Slime tyre liners in my mountain bike.
Yes... it's 9 at night. It had sliced through the inner tube inside my
rear tyre. The liner has left a permanent impression of itself on the
rubber of the inner tube, a clear score following the edges of the
liner, and the slice is about a centimeter long right beside the
overlap where the two ends of the liner meet. I didn't modify the
liners in any way and followed the installation instructions exactly.
I'd read a warning before buying them about this possibly happening,
but the positive comments on the liners were overwhelming so I'm
shocked that it's true. I doubt I can trust the inner tube now that
it's been badly weakened, and I'll have to replace the tube in the
front tyre too as I expect it's suffered the same damage. I hope
Wiggle refund me the cost of the liners cos I'm having to buy two new
inner tubes now. Has anyone got any advice on how to prevent
punctures as I'm getting very tired to having to repair whilst on the
road?

Schwalbe Marathon Plus all the way sir. I had 20 punctures in 2 months
with so-called bomb-proof Specialized Armadillos and Elites. I too got
sick of being out on a ride and fixing a puncture. I'm sure there are
equivalents for MTBs too.

You might want to look at this thread from Bikeradar, which goes into
experiences of tyres for commuting.
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12542309&highlight=
Best wishes

On Oct 19, 8:51 am, "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Innews:[email hidden],
Tony Raven <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
us:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know, I know, but it was only one post amongst a huge number of
others saying how fabulous they are. I've no use for them now so
sending them back to Wiggle with a begging letter is no hassle. I
expect I'll go for puncture resistant tyres like Danny recommends and
replace the Panaracers I just bought.

Quoted message said:

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

They are, however, this: rubbish.

Mine dissolved :-(

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Oxymoron: spot cream for chavs

Damn, I bought one this morning before reading your post and it's in
the bike now. Oh well, no-one around here sells tyres with an armoured
layer so hopefully it'll last until I can get around to ordering ones
off the web. Those Marathons sound good.

Tony Raven said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven
([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The panaracer liners are more expensive than the slime ones but are
lighter and won't cut your inner tube.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=5300003783

Quoted message said:

You'd be much better off using tyres with a puncture protection layer built
in, than putting liners inside tyres that don't.

That's fine if the tyres you want are available with puncture
protection. That's generally not the case unless you are willing to go
with a limited selection and more so on mountain bike tyres

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Anyone got an opinion on these: Schwalbe Marathon Plus ATB? It looks
like it's a bit better for off road than the normal Marathon Plus.

http://www.schwalbe.co.uk/c2-1072-schwalbe-tires-marathon-plus-atb.html

Quick update: Wiggle just refunded me the cost of the liners. What a
fantastic company :-) I've got a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus ATB
tyres coming in the post too.

Kooky45 said:

Quick update: Wiggle just refunded me the cost of the liners. What a
fantastic company :-) I've got a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus ATB
tyres coming in the post too.

Great news, because of your ineptitude and selfishness every other
wiggle customer gets to pay a little more.

marc said:

Kooky45 said:

Quick update: Wiggle just refunded me the cost of the liners. What a
fantastic company :-) I've got a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus ATB
tyres coming in the post too.

Great news, because of your ineptitude and selfishness every other
wiggle customer gets to pay a little more.

What ineptitude? The liners are not fit for the purpose if they cause
punctures. Apparently this can happen even when fitted properly.

Wiggle and customers will actually gain if Kooky ends up spending much more
their than he would have done otherwise. Those tyres aren't cheap for a
start.

~PB

Pete Biggs said:

marc said:

Kooky45 said:

Quick update: Wiggle just refunded me the cost of the liners. What a
fantastic company :-) I've got a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Plus ATB
tyres coming in the post too.

Great news, because of your ineptitude and selfishness every other
wiggle customer gets to pay a little more.

What ineptitude? The liners are not fit for the purpose if they cause
punctures. Apparently this can happen even when fitted properly.

He knew before he bought/used them that they were suspect but went ahead
anyway, then whinged when they did what he had been warned about.