Sleeping bag sacs

"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

i always fight to get mine into its own sack. i dont like bulky things with
my camping gear

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack.

No problem squeezing my new down bag into it's stuff sack! :-)

Quoted message said:

Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack,

Always used to.

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or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Yep, compression strap essential. Those synthetic bags are hugely
bulky!

Paul
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Peewiglet <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Didn't you watch Ray Mears tonight?

You have to keep practisin' and practisin' til it's a routine.

It helps if you have some cord tied round a tree. Fold the bag up into
a roll, then wrap the cord round it tightly by rolling it up the cord
until you get to the tree end, pulling hard against the tree as you go.

Too tight is when the tree falls over....
--
Gordon

Paul Saunders said:

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack.

No problem squeezing my new down bag into it's stuff sack! :-)

It is much easier to stuff a down bag into it's sac because you do
just that . Grab a handfull and stuff it in, repeat until it is all in
there. My ME bag has a two stage closure to the sac for a final bit of
extra compression Synthetics need treating more carefully, neatly
rolling and folding to get them in the sac.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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Paul Saunders said:

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack.

No problem squeezing my new down bag into it's stuff sack! :-)

It is much easier to stuff a down bag into it's sac because you do
just that . Grab a handfull and stuff it in, repeat until it is all in
there. My ME bag has a two stage closure to the sac for a final bit of
extra compression Synthetics need treating more carefully, neatly
rolling and folding to get them in the sac.

isn't long-term compression of bags, esp synthetics, meant to damage the
loft over time? Anyone got any real world experience of this?
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Darren

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isn't long-term compression of bags, esp synthetics, meant to damage the
loft over time? Anyone got any real world experience of this?
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Darren

According to the manual of down bags it is. I keep mine hanging in the
closet. I wouldn't like to be stuffed away in a compression sack either :-)
My fibers wouldn't survive :-(

Theo

Darren G said:

isn't long-term compression of bags, esp synthetics, meant to damage
the loft over time? Anyone got any real world experience of this?

Far too much experience! I've got loads of crappy old synthetic bags
that never lasted very long.

It isn't just a question of compressing them for a long time, simply
compressing them damages the fibres, they break every time you pack the
bag, and the more you compress them the worse the damage is. Even if
you leave them uncompressed when not in use, simply packing them
repeatedly damages them, I've had bags lose considerable loft in just a
year. Buying synthetic bags is false economy, down bags are actually
much cheaper in the long run, provided you take care of them of course.

Paul
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"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Peewiglet <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Didn't you watch Ray Mears tonight?

You have to keep practisin' and practisin' til it's a routine.

It helps if you have some cord tied round a tree. Fold the bag up into
a roll, then wrap the cord round it tightly by rolling it up the cord
until you get to the tree end, pulling hard against the tree as you go.

Too tight is when the tree falls over....
--

Only if you can tie that complicated looking slip knot...........

simon

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It helps if you have some cord tied round a tree. Fold the bag up into
a roll, then wrap the cord round it tightly by rolling it up the cord
until you get to the tree end, pulling hard against the tree as you go.

This sounds like a recipe for 'make your own cosh'. Or is there a prize
for getting it tied so tightly that you can use it as a walking stick??

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:20:14 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Quoted message said:

Didn't you watch Ray Mears tonight?

Um...

Quoted message said:

You have to keep practisin' and practisin' til it's a routine.

Ok...

Quoted message said:

It helps if you have some cord tied round a tree. Fold the bag up into
a roll, then wrap the cord round it tightly by rolling it up the cord
until you get to the tree end, pulling hard against the tree as you go.

Good grief... this reminds me of how things used to be with my
original Thermarest and its tiny little sack, except Ray's method
sounds like less hassle...

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Too tight is when the tree falls over....

Ok!

Thanks 🙂 I'll practise while I watch television 🙂

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:06:40 +0100, "Chris 159"
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i always fight to get mine into its own sack. i dont like bulky things with
my camping gear

Me too re: bulky things. In fact, I find that I may have done
something wrong first time round. It seems to have been ok every time
since 🙂

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Depends how much of a squash you think is a bit of a squash... Note you
should be stuffing it in as it comes to hand rather than rolling it up
and then trying to get the whole thing inside at once. This is (a)
easier and (b) probably better for the bag as the filling doesn't get
"organised" into distinct bands by the rolling.

I find the stuffsacks on my bags (ME down bags) fit them quite well so
just use the originals, Roos' Rab one was miles too big so she replaced
it with a dry bag sized to be about optimal for it. That way there's no
worry about it getting wet. She uses a Seal Line one with a bleed valve
to purge air as its packed, which helps get it in more snugly and less
space is wasted in the pack.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:39:30 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:20:14 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack.

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Didn't you watch Ray Mears tonight?

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It helps if you have some cord tied round a tree. Fold the bag up into
a roll,

er, the point seems to have been missed, in the re-telling I think,
that RM was wrapping his tarp; an awful lot less likely to be damaged
by [extreme] compression than, well, than anything else really.

SteveO

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Peter Clinch said:

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack. Do you tentn
to fight with the original sack, or just pack into a slightly larger
one and then use a compression strap?

Depends how much of a squash you think is a bit of a squash... [...]

In fact, it seems perfectly ok now. For some reason I didn't stuff it
efficiently the first time I tried, but on every subsequent occasion
it's returned to its sack quite happily, with a little space left over
🙂

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet

Peewiglet said:

Peter Clinch said:

Peewiglet said:

It's a bit of a squash getting my new bag into its sack.

Quoted message said:

In fact, it seems perfectly ok now. For some reason I didn't stuff it
efficiently the first time I tried, but on every subsequent occasion
it's returned to its sack quite happily, with a little space left over

Perhaps you'd left something in the bag before you stuffed it?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:44:04 +0100, Phil Cook
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

In fact, it seems perfectly ok now. For some reason I didn't stuff it
efficiently the first time I tried, but on every subsequent occasion
it's returned to its sack quite happily, with a little space left over

Perhaps you'd left something in the bag before you stuffed it?

I think I left a large airpocket near the bottom, because I wasn't
stuffing it in properly.

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet