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  1. Here's an oddball beam frame that climbs well, and flies on the downhills. And, thanks to the beam, is quite easy on your behind. The Trek Y-Foil. Hard to find, as it's been out of production since 1999, but they turn up on ebay from time to time in the USD$400-$500 range. 20% less wind resistance over a normal diamond frame, though in all fairness, the rider creates far more wind resistance than the frame.

    Reason it's out of production? The UCI banned beam frames back in 1999. Reason given was that they were an 'unfair advantage', whatever that means, truth is they didn't like it because it didn't look like a normal bike. Personally, I think it's quite beautiful. You can also get beam frames from Softride, but I've always thought they were somewhat awkward looking.

    Image in sleeper frame?

  2. Look 585 for a full carbon sleeper.

    Climbs very well and the classic geometry makes for a stable descender. Understated graphics and standard round tubes make it a sleeper in my book. Sure some cyclists will recognize it as a pure race bred bike but most will not even look twice.

  3. JohnO said:

    Here's an oddball beam frame that climbs well, and flies on the downhills. And, thanks to the beam, is quite easy on your behind. The Trek Y-Foil. Hard to find, as it's been out of production since 1999, but they turn up on ebay from time to time in the USD$400-$500 range. 20% less wind resistance over a normal diamond frame, though in all fairness, the rider creates far more wind resistance than the frame.

    Reason it's out of production? The UCI banned beam frames back in 1999. Reason given was that they were an 'unfair advantage', whatever that means, truth is they didn't like it because it didn't look like a normal bike. Personally, I think it's quite beautiful. You can also get beam frames from Softride, but I've always thought they were somewhat awkward looking.

    Image in sleeper frame?

    That is a cool looking bike! great build, but I'd get a compact. I saw one similar on e-bay but it had beat up tri-spoke carbon wheels and didn't look cared for. What is the weight?

  4. That Y foil would make a great TRI bike, maybe tweak the geometry and an aero fork.

    Wonder if trek would allow thier factory to licence the tooling.......

    I think if the UCI want to take bike development out of the speed factor with pro riding they should ban deep rims and lift the weight limit to 8kg or more. Then it would be like watching racing back in the 80s and early 90s again.

    However it would take the major marketing tool away from big $$ brands.

    No way a look 585 is a sleeper. Look is one of the royality of carbon frames, it just is as flashy "look at me" as some carbon frames. Certianly not priced like a "sleeper frame"

  5. What about a Habanero titanium? On my last team ride, a new rider on his Serotta Ti was admiring mine. I ride, race, and occassionally crash mine. It still looks brand new. It is beautifully constructed and has had a lot of thought put into the design. The customer service is incredible. The cost? $795 USD. I'd consider the Habanero to be a 'sleeper' frame.

    John Swanson
    www.bikephysics.com

  6. ScienceIsCool said:

    What about a Habanero titanium? On my last team ride, a new rider on his Serotta Ti was admiring mine. I ride, race, and occassionally crash mine. It still looks brand new. It is beautifully constructed and has had a lot of thought put into the design. The customer service is incredible. The cost? $795 USD. I'd consider the Habanero to be a 'sleeper' frame.

    John Swanson
    www.bikephysics.com


    Wow thats cheap for Ti. I considered a Lynsky two weeks ago, but since I couldnt ride one I went for the Six13. I hope they make a cross frame!!

  7. JohnO said:

    Here's an oddball beam frame that climbs well, and flies on the downhills. And, thanks to the beam, is quite easy on your behind. The Trek Y-Foil. Hard to find, as it's been out of production since 1999, but they turn up on ebay from time to time in the USD$400-$500 range. 20% less wind resistance over a normal diamond frame, though in all fairness, the rider creates far more wind resistance than the frame.

    Reason it's out of production? The UCI banned beam frames back in 1999. Reason given was that they were an 'unfair advantage', whatever that means, truth is they didn't like it because it didn't look like a normal bike. Personally, I think it's quite beautiful. You can also get beam frames from Softride, but I've always thought they were somewhat awkward looking.

    Image in sleeper frame?

    I just came across one recently - a brand new 54 that has been in an Italian shop as NOS for years. Was almost tempted...

  8. Image in sleeper frame?

    Sleeper to the max. Reynolds 631 tubing track frame for $329. With the BFSSFG group buy its gonna be alot less.

  9. Goes to show what suckers we (ok, I am) are when it comes to big name frames and the like... 🙂

  10. JohnO said:

    Here's an oddball beam frame that climbs well, and flies on the downhills. And, thanks to the beam, is quite easy on your behind. The Trek Y-Foil. Hard to find, as it's been out of production since 1999, but they turn up on ebay from time to time in the USD$400-$500 range. 20% less wind resistance over a normal diamond frame, though in all fairness, the rider creates far more wind resistance than the frame.

    Reason it's out of production? The UCI banned beam frames back in 1999. Reason given was that they were an 'unfair advantage', whatever that means, truth is they didn't like it because it didn't look like a normal bike. Personally, I think it's quite beautiful. You can also get beam frames from Softride, but I've always thought they were somewhat awkward looking.

    Image in sleeper frame?

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    Like a Gibson Flying V in guitar speak. Think of the stage clothes those who play Flying Vs wear - what would be appropriate to wear on this beast?!🙂

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