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  1. I've set a goal for myself to (eventually) learn to slackrope unicycle.
    Naturally the first step is to learn to slackrope walk.

    I have been practising a little on a very short 2m long rope beside the
    fence. Without the uni that's easy enough, but today I bought 12m of
    rope and set it up between two trees and I was amazed at how much more
    difficult it was. I'm pretty much back to square one in the skills
    department now that I'm onto the bigger rope. I have some questions for
    you...

    Can anybody from the slackrope walking world tell me whether or not
    experienced slackrope walkers pay much attension to rope length and
    slack-ness? Seems to me that a longer rope is always going to be -much-
    more difficult to balance on, is this true for experienced slackrope
    walkers though? What is an ideal length to learn the basics on? How
    slack should it be?

    From the very short attempt this afternoon (mostly very short because I
    was practising over my driveway which scared me a little and I'm
    planning to try on grass from now on), it seemed like slackrope walking
    is going to take a long time to learn. I had no control when up on the
    rope...the difference between 2m and 12m is incredible.

    I'm trying to convince myself that this will be just like learning to
    unicycle in that at first it seems almost impossible but quickly gets
    easier as you get used to these new forces that you have to counter at
    odd angles. There are things on the unicycle that I used to consider
    almost impossible, like the rail riding Kris Holm does in New World
    Disorder, that are now a little more within my reach so I'm hopefully
    slackrope walking then slackrope unicycling will be the same.

    I guess whenever I doubt that this can possibly be accomplished I should
    look to that "Reino" guy who did the inverted slackrope ultimate
    wheeling. 🙂 My attempts today at simply balancing on the thing mack
    that skill of his even more incredible to me.

    So does anybody have any tips for a raw beginner? Anyone here have any
    experience with slackrope unicycling? Am I right in guessing that
    tightrope unicycling would be similar in difficulty to riding very
    narrow (20mm diameter or so) rails? How tight is a tightrope?

    Thanks,
    Andrew

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  2. the slack rope in my garden is between two trees about 6m apart. the
    rope (5cm climbing tape) is attached to the trees at about chest height
    and dips to about half way up my shin at its lowest.

    Try an look at something vertical infront of you when balancing and not
    the floor or rope, this way its much easier to see weather you are
    remaining vertical.

    the foot that is not on the rope should point towards the floor and if
    its lower than the foot on the rope it will act as a very good counter
    balance

    dont try and walk across the slack rope, balance on one foot and then
    put your other foot on the rope and tranfer the weight and balance to
    you new foot and remove the trailing foot. It sounds, and looks i lot
    like walking, but is good to have that mind set..

    tight rope is much easier, and should be a tight as possible, unless you
    want some bounce int their to help you jump off the wire (with back flip
    if desired)

    as for unicycling on either, I've not done any rail riding...

    good luck dude and hope that something in here is useful

    andy

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  3. My experience is that the longer the rope the easier it is. You say you
    do a 2 meter rope. That is very difficult for me. I think about 6 meters
    is about right. Even a 6 meter rope is difficult at the ends, so make
    sure you start out in the middle. I think slack rope walking is much
    easier than learning to unicycle. I forget which one I learned first.
    Basically there are 4 foot positions to learn. Each foot by itself and
    each foot in front of the other. When you have those 4 positions, then
    you can walk. It really helps to have something to hold on to while you
    are learning. After that you can "freemount", without any assistance if
    the rope isn't too far off the ground.

    I've never tried to unicycle on the rope, I don't think I'm good enough
    on the uni.

    I hope this helps.

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  4. Andrew,

    'Here' (http://tinyurl.com/kr0n) is a short thread and some pics of
    Vaughn's slackrope set up. He uses a portable hammock frame.

    (You were the only reply to that thread, any correlation?)

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  5. Hey, Andrew,

    The whole slacklining thing is huge in the rockclimbing world, which is
    where it started. If you Google for slacklining you'll find a bunch of
    stuff. Or go to Rockclimbing.com. They have a discussion group just
    for slacklining.

    JL

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  6. So is there a difference between a slack rope and a slackline?
    It seams that what you are talking about is just hanging a loose rope
    between two trees, but I can do what I thought is called slacklining,
    but it is done with stretchy climbing web stuff, so it looks tight
    untill you step on it, when it streches and wobbles all over the place.
    So is there a distinciton between the two? which one is harder?

    Also when you try to ride your unicycle on it, are you going to take the
    tire off, or try to ride it with the tire still on (if that is even
    possible)?

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  7. WOW, I slackline too. Its soo fun. I could not uni on it though

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  8. Slacklining is usually done on 1" nylon climbing webbing, yanked tight
    between two trees (typically) producing a slack line of 30-50 feet. The
    nylon webbing strectches at first but once the play has been worked out
    of it from various tightenings and folks walking on it, it stretches
    little, but still some. For that reason, and because I think a uni
    would roll much better on a round rope as opposed to a flat piece of
    webbing, I suggest using a 11mm static line, which has almost zero
    stretch.

    I can't imagine anyone doing this without removing the tire and riding
    on the rim. I got a feeling that it won´t be much if any harder than
    regular 'slacking,' which is a sort of moving stillstand on a line
    instead of a wheel.

    For the whole lowdown, check out: Slackline.com

    JL

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  9. Thanks a lot, that's all very helpful. I'll get back to you when I've
    made a bit of progress.

    Andrew

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  10. I think you have to look at the length between the anchor points and the
    length of rope, and the ratio between the two. There's no doubt some
    complicated maths here.

    With sufficient slack, you become the "bob" of a pendulum. A long
    pendulum swings more slowly. That's why a 2 metre slack rope may be
    harder to walk on than a 5 metre one or longer.

    Of course, for unicycling, the deeper the dip in the rope (the longer
    the pendulum) the harder it'll be to ride up the hill. The wheel will
    skid, and control will become impossible.

    Conclusion: you're a crazy person and will probably die in the
    attempt.:eek:

    😉

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  11. P.S. I have walked slackrope, but not for many years, and not much
    then. It was great fun. Good luck.

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  12. Thanks. 🙂

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  13. i actually have tried this. itook the tire and inner tube out and rode
    onthe rim. ican do a couple rotations,but i have not had much time to
    practice. it is definitely doable

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  14. I've ridden a very loose tightrope that was about 12' long (ummm, maybe
    4meters? I don't feel like doing a conversion in my head). It was a
    round line, and I was on a trials uni with a tire on. I made it about
    1.5-2 rev on my best try. the hardest part was the line twisting under
    the tire, making riding a tightrope far more difficult than a loose rail
    ride. Riding a slackrope with the tire on is nearly impossible, due to
    the twisting. Unless you're taking the tire off Andrew, you're doomed to
    failure.

    Then again, I never got very good at slackroping. I could do a pretty
    long stand on one with a self mount but I could never switch feet or
    walk.

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