skirts and bicycling

Where Shorts "Marian Rosenberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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My old bicycle necessitated a visit to the tailor about once every three or four weeks to get
clothing repaired.

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a

week.

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Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel? They always catch in
the same way on the right side, and get tangled in among the chain. I was thinking perhaps if I
put something solid (like an ugly but functional) piece of cardboard on the wheel around the chain
area that this might keep my skirts from getting munched upon ... but, in my current sudden spate
of following this newsgroup again I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

-M

Marian Rosenberg said:

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel? They always catch in
the same way on the right side, and get tangled in among the chain. I was thinking perhaps if I
put something solid (like an ugly but functional) piece of cardboard on the wheel around the chain
area that this might keep my skirts from getting munched upon ... but, in my current sudden spate
of following this newsgroup again I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

If rational dress is not an option, skirt protectors do exist. I don't know where you might buy
one - in China or elsewhere. They're often seen fitted to Dutch roadsters. For reference, here's
a picture:

[WARNING: CONTAINS NUDITY. IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY BLACK AND WHITE IMAGES OF NAKED ADULTS POSING WITH
ROADSTER BICYCLES, PLEASE DO NOT CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK]

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A similar effect can be achieved by weaving cord between the mudguard stays.

The advantage of the string version over your cardboard one would be reduced susceptibility to
crosswinds, and improved wet weather durability.

James Thomson

Marian Rosenberg at [email hidden] wrote on 8/31/03 8:02 AM:

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My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel? They always catch in
the same way on the right side, and get tangled in among the chain. I was thinking perhaps if I
put something solid (like an ugly but functional) piece of cardboard on the wheel around the chain
area that this might keep my skirts from getting munched upon ... but, in my current sudden spate
of following this newsgroup again I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Already got

1 - Chainguard? 2 - Fender?

then it's project time...

3 - Some triangle of mesh screen zip-tied to the chainstay and seatstay - prevent the skirt from
being drawn into the spokes.

If you look back at a large number of early bike designs, they used to cover that area pretty well,
with a number of struts or cords from the fender to the rear dropout area, just to prevent such an
occurence.

for example: (the bottom bicycle in this drawing)
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-- Jim

=v= It's summer, so wear shorter skirts! :^)

=v= Seriously, a friend of mine has opted for a very nice look involving short skirts and bike
shorts. <_Jym_

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My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

You can buy skirt guards, but a much better idea is to cycle wearing suitable shorts/long leggings
designed for the purpose :-) Personally speaking I wouldn't wear a skirt when cycling.

Cheers, helen s

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"Marian Rosenberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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My old bicycle necessitated a visit to the tailor about once every three or four weeks to get
clothing repaired.

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a

week.

Skirt guards do exist, see

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But not sure about aftermarket skirt guards. Try a bike shop in the Netherlands or China.

You could also get some of those aero wheel cover discs if they still exist.

Marian Rosenberg from said:

Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel?

How about some bloomers?

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3:10:45 PM 31 August 2003

D.P.G. said:

Where Shorts

There shorts! Why are you talking that way? I tought you wanted to.

Appologies to Mel Brooks.

Tim McTeague

In article said:

=v= It's summer, so wear shorter skirts! :^)

Maybe Marian is south of the equator?

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=v= Seriously, a friend of mine has opted for a very nice look involving short skirts and
bike shorts.

And then there are skorts.

Y'know those western-style riding skirts with all the buttons? I've always figured something
designed along those lines for bike riding could be quite stylish as well as functional. For
women, that is.

cheers, Tom

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"James Thomson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[WARNING: CONTAINS NUDITY. IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY BLACK AND WHITE IMAGES

OF

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NAKED ADULTS POSING WITH ROADSTER BICYCLES, PLEASE DO NOT CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK]

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Note the low-power headlight powered by the small dynamo on the front wheel. Clearly she is riding
nude to be sure that motorist notice her despite her inadequate lighting system.

31 Aug 2003 15:49:04 GMT,
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(wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) said:

Quoted message said:

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

You can buy skirt guards, but a much better idea is to cycle wearing suitable shorts/long leggings
designed for the purpose :-) Personally speaking I wouldn't wear a skirt when cycling.

Cheers, helen s

Excuse me, but I think skirts look great on bicycles. And so do suits. Really, it's another step
toward getting more people cycling. It helps get cycling recognised it as a legitimate means of
transportation. Many people feel uncomfortable in jockey get-up yet might like to ride or at least
try it if they didn't feel that they had to look and perform like athletes.

Frank wisely points out that we not make cycling appear more dangerous than it is. I'll add in let's
not make it out to be more difficult than it is. By dressing in gym clothes, we're giving that
impression.

It's very rare to see women commuters riding in skirts. I know of one who regularly rides by my
friend's place. One day she was going by as I was leaving and I couldn't help but catch up and tell
how fabulously appropriate she looked. I delivered my little rant and inquired about aerodynamic
drag which didn't seem to cause her much concern. I can time my visits to coincide with her schedule
and pay more attention to her skirt styles and whether her bike has a skirt guard. I'm pretty sure
it's got a chainguard.

The OP is in China where the societal norm may require her wearing skirts. Bikes beat buses. . . so
ride in a skirt. It's cool. Save the tights and leggings for winter and rain.

Myself, I'd cut a couple wedges of coroplast and zip tie or duct tape 'em to something since it's
hard to find bikes with proper skirt guards in North America.

Check India. They still make lady's roadsters.
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zk

Jim Edgar said:

Marian Rosenberg at [email hidden] wrote on 8/31/03 8:02 AM:

Quoted message said:

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel? They always catch in
the same way on the right side, and get tangled in among the chain. I was thinking perhaps if I
put something solid (like an ugly but functional) piece of cardboard on the wheel around the chain
area that this might keep my skirts from getting munched upon ... but, in my current sudden spate
of following this newsgroup again I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Already got

1 - Chainguard? 2 - Fender?

Yes. Though the chainguard doesn't seem quite as large as the one my bike back in the US had.

Quoted message said:

then it's project time...

3 - Some triangle of mesh screen zip-tied to the chainstay and seatstay - prevent the skirt from
being drawn into the spokes.

Sounds much better than cardboard.

Quoted message said:

If you look back at a large number of early bike designs, they used to cover that area pretty
well, with a number of struts or cords from the fender to the rear dropout area, just to prevent
such an occurence.

I was sure there had to be _something_ given that most women wore skirts in those days.

Thanks.

-M

Zoot Katz said:

31 Aug 2003 15:49:04 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, [email hidden]

(wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) said:

Quoted message said:

My new bicycle has already eaten two skirts and I've only had it for a week.

You can buy skirt guards, but a much better idea is to cycle wearing suitable shorts/long leggings
designed for the purpose :-) Personally speaking I wouldn't wear a skirt when cycling.

If you are going to the grocery store on your lunch break do you change clothing?

Quoted message said:

The OP is in China where the societal norm may require her wearing skirts. Bikes beat buses. . .
so ride in a skirt. It's cool. Save the tights and leggings for winter and rain.

Actually, very much not societal norm. My position in society dictates that I ought to be showing
off how wealthy I am by wearing t-shirts and designer jeans instead of getting tailored clothing.

I prefer long skirts. Unlike pants they don't touch and rub up against the nerve damaged areas and
they effectively hide the scars on my leg from casual notice.

-M

Zoot Katz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Excuse me, but I think skirts look great on bicycles. And so do suits. Really, it's another step
toward getting more people cycling. It helps get cycling recognised it as a legitimate means of
transportation. Many people feel uncomfortable in jockey get-up yet might like to ride or at least
try it if they didn't feel that they had to look and perform like athletes.

Well said.

Furthermore, the original poster asked a precise question about skirt guards, and yet so many people
feel compelled to give non-answers. Do they really think that she doesn't know of the existence of
bicycle shorts, and that she needs a lecture about attire?

Marian Rosenberg said:

Is there anything I can do to keep my skirts from catching in the rear wheel?

yes. don't wear them when you're bicycling. wear bike shorts underneath!

01 Sep 2003 07:50:29 GMT,
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(wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) said:

Please note the use of smileys in this posting

Please note this is not an AOL chat room.

Stuff the smileys.
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zk

Ask your tailor to rig something up made of netting and elastic to fit over the fender and around
the wheel, and held down by the chainguard.

From the pic of the nude lady it looks like she has a crocheted skirt guard.

take care Liz who likes long skirts too.

Hey! Look what Marian Rosenberg <[email hidden]> wrote :

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Actually, very much not societal norm. My position in society dictates that I ought to be showing
off how wealthy I am by wearing t-shirts and designer jeans instead of getting tailored clothing.

I prefer long skirts. Unlike pants they don't touch and rub up against the nerve damaged areas and
they effectively hide the scars on my leg from casual notice.

-M

Another thing you may consider is an overskirt that clips around the waist and isn't so "billowing"
- holding your long skirt closer to the legs! It wouldn't have to be long just to the knees.
Something lacy - that is tightish from the hips to knees.

take care Liz who sews and bikes

Hey! Look what Marian Rosenberg <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

I prefer long skirts. Unlike pants they don't touch and rub up against the nerve damaged areas and
they effectively hide the scars on my leg from casual notice.

-M

"wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Excuse me, but I think skirts look great on bicycles. And so do suits.

Good for you :-) Did I say they didn't? I was simply responding to the

OP's

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stated *problem* when riding a bike wearing a skirt. Wear suitable shorts/leggings and the problem
no longer exists.

Actually, the original problem wasn't "what should I wear to ride my bike" but "Is there something
to add to my bike so I can wear what I like to wear." So while you are thinking of coming up with
appropriate wear for cycling as an activity she is looking for appropriate bike accessories so she
can wear what she wants. For instance, do you look in your closet and say, gee, I'm going to the
market today, what special clothes do I need to wear for taking the car?

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Really, it's another step toward getting more people cycling.

Was this a campaigning thread??? ;-)

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Many people feel uncomfortable in jockey get-up yet might like to ride or at least try it if they
didn't feel that they had to look and perform like athletes

Did I mention anything about being an athlete to cycle? No. Have you seen

me?

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No. Do I look like an athlete? Hahahahahahaaaa! 'cuse me whilst I stop

myself

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peeing my pants ;-) I am very, very, very unathletic, and very, very

unslim,

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yet I enjoy riding my bike daily. I just happen to enjoy it more when

wearing

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suitable shorts/longleggings :-)

There are many places I take my bike where shorts/long leggings are inappropriate; museums, business
meetings, nice restaurants. And though changing is an option, often the 5 minutes it takes to find a
bathroom and change is longer than the time it took to get me there on the bike.

Now I admit, if I'm going out for a 30 mile training run that starts and ends either at my house or
the local Starbucks I will wear bike shorts, a bicycling jersey, gloves, clipin shoes, and take my
road bike. But when I'm heading to a fancy luncheon followed by a trip to the grocery store I hate
to determine my outfit on whether I take my car or my commuter bike.