Skate-style Helmets

damc2000 <[email hidden]> whizzed past me shouting

Quoted message said:

I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those skate-style
helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets. My worry is that
they give less protection. Any advice?

You haven't said what sort of cycling you'll be doing - you need to know
what sort of accident you're likely to have before you can make useful
decisions about a helmet.

The helmets mostly sold for cycling are designed for falling off your
mountain bike, and I have experience in this area: if you faceplant,
you land on the lower part of your face and the projecting rim of your
helmet. This can easily save you a broken nose, which is an injury well
worth avoiding.
So if you're going to ride off-road, get a proper cycle helmet.

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Sue ]🙁🙂

Bicycle helmets are mostly a bit of a scam.
They make most cyclists slightly less safe but there's money in selling them.

damc2000 said:

I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those skate-style
helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets. My worry is that
they give less protection. Any advice?

I don't have any evidence to support this but I would reckon they
provide more protection than a standard cycle helmet as they have a hard
shell and are designed for people who actually fall alot. The downside
is that they has less ventilation and could get quite hot if you are
cycling briskly for any length of time.

Pete

in message <[email hidden]>, damc2000

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I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those
skate-style helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets.
My worry is that they give less protection. Any advice?

If you're thinking of a helmet which doesn't even offer the very minimal
protection of a cycling helmet, why wear one at all?

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;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18

in message <[email hidden]>, Ningi

(') said:

damc2000 said:

I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those
skate-style helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets.
My worry is that they give less protection. Any advice?

I don't have any evidence to support this but I would reckon they
provide more protection than a standard cycle helmet as they have a
hard
shell and are designed for people who actually fall alot.

Which means they don't deform on impact which means they offer less
protection. They're designed for multiple utterly trivial bumps instead
of one modest one.

Quoted message said:

The downside
is that they has less ventilation and could get quite hot if you are
cycling briskly for any length of time.

Absolutely.

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Simon Brooke ([email hidden]) wrote:
: in message <[email hidden]>, Ningi
: ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

: > damc2000 wrote:
: >> I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those
: >> skate-style helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets.
: >> My worry is that they give less protection. Any advice?
: >>
: >
: > I don't have any evidence to support this but I would reckon they
: > provide more protection than a standard cycle helmet as they have a
: > hard
: > shell and are designed for people who actually fall alot.

: Which means they don't deform on impact which means they offer less
: protection. They're designed for multiple utterly trivial bumps instead
: of one modest one.

I have read somewhere that some skating helmets are also certified to
bicycle helmet standards. Presumably, that would mean that they would
have to fulfill the same protection for an impact from 2 metres?

m.

Quoted message said:

I need to buy a new helmet. I am thinking of buying one of those
skate-style helmets instead of the standard larger foam/mould helmets.
My worry is that they give less protection. Any advice?

They'd likely be hotter. This may or may not be a bad thing, depending on
the weather. As for protection, you can get skate style cycle helmets
which offer the same (admittedly low) levels of protection as normal cycle
helmets. My take is that the benefits of wearing them are so slight that
the difference beween a 'good' one and a 'bad' one aren't really worth
bothering with - just go for the coolest looking (or my invisible one).

Info on protection levels here: <www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2023.pdf>.
The rest of that sites worth a looksie too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue White" <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling

Quoted message said:

The helmets mostly sold for cycling are designed for falling off your
mountain bike, and I have experience in this area: if you faceplant, you
land on the lower part of your face and the projecting rim of your helmet.
This can easily save you a broken nose, which is an injury well worth
avoiding.
So if you're going to ride off-road, get a proper cycle helmet.

I do quite a lot off-road riding. I think you're right that a standard
helmet would be safer for these kind of falls. Looking back, the falls I've
had in the past have all been off-road and not involved a 3rd party so I
guess I should stick with a standard helmet but I did read that softer, more
ventilated helmets offer less protection in higher-impact crashes especially
against non-flat surfaces. This explains why motorcycle helmets are
hard-shelled with the foam/padding inside. (Thanks to Mark Thompson for the
useful link, www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2023.pdf).

dac2000

(Marianne Promberger) said:

I have read somewhere that some skating helmets are also certified to
bicycle helmet standards. Presumably, that would mean that they would
have to fulfill the same protection for an impact from 2 metres?

Skate helmets (at least the ones I've seen) are typically certified to
EN1078 just as cycle helmets are.

-dan

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