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  1. As reported in todays Guardian - Mark Thatcher, eldest child of Maggie Thatcher, will cope a guilty plea in South Africa, where he has been charged with financing a cou, in the oil rich country of Equatorial Guinea.

    This is the latest in a series of scandals including the unethical earning of large commissions, said to have been earned by Thatcher, from the Trafalgar House subsidiary Cementation International PLC, in the 1980's.


    Thatcher 'to plead guilty' over coup

    Staff and agencies
    Wednesday January 12, 2005

    Sir Mark Thatcher is expected to plead guilty to a charge related to allegations that he was involved in a failed coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea, sources said tonight.
    It was understood he would make the plea at Cape Town's high court tomorrow.

    Sir Mark is accused of providing some of the financing for an alleged coup plot in oil-rich Equatorial Guinea. To date, he has denied playing any part in the alleged plot.

    However, sources tonight indicated that a deal - which was still being negotiated - would involve him admitting to some unwitting involvement.

    It is understood he will admit that he helped provide a helicopter for the alleged coup, but was not aware of what it was to be used for.

    Unconfirmed reports said the deal would involve the son of the former prime minister Baroness Thatcher paying a fine of around £300,000 and serving a suspended five-year sentence.

    It has been reported that it would allow Sir Mark, who has lived in South Africa since 1995, to leave that country and rejoin his family, who have moved to the US.

    He faces charges in South Africa and in Equatorial Guinea, which has sought his extradition. Nineteen other defendants are already on trial in Equatorial Guinea in connection with last year's alleged plot to overthrow the president, Teodoro Obiang Nguema, who has ruled Africa's third-largest oil producer for the past 25 years.

    Sir Mark was arrested at his home in suburban Cape Town on August 25 and charged with violating the country's anti-mercenary laws. He had not previously been expected back in court in South Africa until February 18, when he was scheduled to face questions posed by Equatorial Guinea officials.

    Equatorial Guinea alleges that Sir Mark and other mainly British financiers had worked with the tiny country's opposition figures, scores of African mercenaries and six Armenian pilots in a takeover attempt foiled in March.

    Simon Mann, a former British special forces commander accused of masterminding the plot, was jailed for seven years in Zimbabwe on weapons charges. Mann had been arrested at Harare airport along with 70 alleged mercenaries and military equipment, which Equatorial Guinea alleged had been intended for an attempted coup.

    Two men arrested with Mann, along with a former business associate of Sir Mark, later pleaded guilty to violating South Africa's Foreign Military Assistance Act as part of a plea bargain under which they agreed to give evidence in court against other alleged coup participants.

  2. As far as i believe the law in Scotland (which obviously doesnt apply here) is that 'Ignorance of the is no protection from the law'

    in other words, 'sorry occifer, i didnt know that drink driving was illegal, hic hic..'

    so Thatcher is going to stand up in court and say that he had no idea the helicopter he bought for those nice men was actually being used to organise a coup...?

    'plead guilty due to ignorance...you'll get a fine and a suspended sentence'
    can i have that lawyers number?..he sounds good.

    have you seen the hellhole he will be going to if he is found guilty?

    i suppose all he was trying to do was rid EG of its dictatorship but what he is doing is illegal...i wonder if the dimplomats are be having babies this morning trying to figure out how to get him out of this mess...he is in serious trouble here....mummy cant help now.

  3. MountainPro said:

    As far as i believe the law in Scotland (which obviously doesnt apply here) is that 'Ignorance of the is no protection from the law'

    in other words, 'sorry occifer, i didnt know that drink driving was illegal, hic hic..'

    so Thatcher is going to stand up in court and say that he had no idea the helicopter he bought for those nice men was actually being used to organise a coup...?

    'plead guilty due to ignorance...you'll get a fine and a suspended sentence'
    can i have that lawyers number?..he sounds good.

    have you seen the hellhole he will be going to if he is found guilty?

    i suppose all he was trying to do was rid EG of its dictatorship but what he is doing is illegal...i wonder if the dimplomats are be having babies this morning trying to figure out how to get him out of this mess...he is in serious trouble here....mummy cant help now.

    yeah, ignorance of the law is no defence - applies here too.

  4. limerickman said:

    yeah, ignorance of the law is no defence - applies here too.


    Oh, Mummy was so pleased, she was speechless at the news.

  5. FredC said:

    Oh, Mummy was so pleased, she was speechless at the news.

    Maggie allegedly went bail for him - and she has reportedly paid his fine (£260k) as well.

    The SA authorities are being berated by Equatorial Guinea over the handling of this case.
    But the guy who drafted the FMAC legislation, under which Thatcher was charged and convicted, seems happy.
    It may well be the case that Thatcher - as well as paying the fine - might have
    started singing, when questioned.
    Simon Mann won't be running back to SA when he finishes his sentance in Zim, I suggest.

  6. limerickman said:

    Maggie allegedly went bail for him - and she has reportedly paid his fine (£260k) as well.

    The SA authorities are being berated by Equatorial Guinea over the handling of this case.
    But the guy who drafted the FMAC legislation, under which Thatcher was charged and convicted, seems happy.
    It may well be the case that Thatcher - as well as paying the fine - might have
    started singing, when questioned.
    Simon Mann won't be running back to SA when he finishes his sentance in Zim, I suggest.


    Hello Mark, I knew your mother quite well.
    Hello Nelson, She often used to speak about you to in glowing terms.
    Yes Mark, your mother was always glowing, not like my wife who liked football teams.
    I'll see what I can do.

  7. FredC said:

    Hello Mark, I knew your mother quite well.
    Hello Nelson, She often used to speak about you to in glowing terms.
    Yes Mark, your mother was always glowing, not like my wife who liked football teams.
    I'll see what I can do.

    He could always decide to be a late entrant to the Paris-Dakkar race.
    Plenty of room to get lost in - again !

    Maggie and Nelson - I thought she supported the old Dutch Reformed "keep those bloody Kaffirs down, right" regime ?

  8. FredC said:

    Hello Mark, I knew your mother quite well.
    Hello Nelson, She often used to speak about you to in glowing terms.
    Yes Mark, your mother was always glowing, not like my wife who liked football teams.
    I'll see what I can do.

    Ah - I read you now.
    Stomphe Mckempi - wasn't he kicked to death by the other players on the Winnie Mandela soccer team ?

    Oh God, now I'll have LA and Winnie suing me for libel !

    "Wife - here are me assets".

  9. limerickman said:

    Ah - I read you now.
    Stomphe Mckempi - wasn't he kicked to death by the other players on the Winnie Mandela soccer team ?

    Oh God, now I'll have LA and Winnie suing me for libel !

    "Wife - here are me assets".


    On the other hand perhaps you could try for a treble, and bet that Hamilton get's off. Hehehehe.

  10. limerickman said:

    yeah, ignorance of the law is no defence - applies here too.


    Oh yes it is, but you spend the rest of your life in the Cuckoos Nest.

  11. FredC said:

    Oh yes it is, but you spend the rest of your life in the Cuckoos Nest.


    at leats you get 3 square meals a day there...

    i dont know why is said the stuff about ignorance from the law...that wasnt what he was pleading, it was ignorance over the use of his helicopter,

    yes, we all believe that Mark....mind you, the Judge swallowed it did he not?

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