Simoni shows his true "class"

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in message
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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

The post race comments should be interesting. It looked as if Cunego didn't
even try to let Simoni near his wheel at the end and he kept the pace high
enough to prevent Simoni from doing another attack. Simoni should ease off
and save it for the TdF. ;-)

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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

The post race comments should be interesting. It looked as if Cunego

didn't

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even try to let Simoni near his wheel at the end and he kept the pace high
enough to prevent Simoni from doing another attack. Simoni should ease

off

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and save it for the TdF. ;-)

Boyd Speerschneider bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com said:

What a "classy" guy Simoni is! He attacks his own teammate after
promising not to do so. I was very happy to see Cunego punch his
clock later in the climb.

From what I read in La Gazzetta, he didn't promise any such thing.

Oh well... he got schooled. That's got to be kind of embarassing.

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"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in message
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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

This line of thought, echoed by the OLN broadcast team, strikes me as
bizarre. Saeco should be concerned about winning the Giro, regardless of
which rider does it. With the maglia rosa on Cunego's back and some time in
hand, it frees Simoni to attack, forcing the other GC contenders to chase,
which allows the MR to sit in. The result being that either Simoni goes up
the road and takes the jersey, leaving them with a 1/2 GC result as Cunego
marks the pursuers, or he fails, as he did, setting up Cunego to take more
time - as he did. The best scenario for Saeco is 1/2 on GC, and Simoni's
attack and the chase that resulted did at least put a second Saeco on the
podium (for now) by shelling Popovich. Tomorrow should be interesting -
last chance for the attackers!

That's $0.02 more,

SB

In La Gazzetta it was stated quite they had a pact of non-agression. They
were not supposed to ride against each other. And such pact was put mostly
on the mouth of Simoni.

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Boyd Speerschneider bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com said:

What a "classy" guy Simoni is! He attacks his own teammate after
promising not to do so. I was very happy to see Cunego punch his
clock later in the climb.

From what I read in La Gazzetta, he didn't promise any such thing.

Oh well... he got schooled. That's got to be kind of embarassing.

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Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/
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"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in
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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

This line of thought, echoed by the OLN broadcast team, strikes me as
bizarre. Saeco should be concerned about winning the Giro, regardless
of which rider does it. With the maglia rosa on Cunego's back and some
time in hand, it frees Simoni to attack, forcing the other GC contenders
to chase, which allows the MR to sit in. The result being that either
Simoni goes up the road and takes the jersey, leaving them with a 1/2 GC
result as Cunego marks the pursuers, or he fails, as he did, setting up
Cunego to take more time - as he did. The best scenario for Saeco is
1/2 on GC, and Simoni's attack and the chase that resulted did at least
put a second Saeco on the podium (for now) by shelling Popovich.
Tomorrow should be interesting - last chance for the attackers!

That's $0.02 more,

SB

You forgot a third scenario:

Simoni attacks, everyone chases, dropping Cunego. They catch Simoni and
Saeco loses the Giro.

Luckily Cunego didn't get dropped... but you never know.
When you are in a position to defend do so, don't attack.

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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

This line of thought, echoed by the OLN broadcast team, strikes me as
bizarre. Saeco should be concerned about winning the Giro, regardless
of which rider does it. With the maglia rosa on Cunego's back and some
time in hand, it frees Simoni to attack, forcing the other GC contenders
to chase, which allows the MR to sit in. The result being that either
Simoni goes up the road and takes the jersey, leaving them with a 1/2 GC
result as Cunego marks the pursuers, or he fails, as he did, setting up
Cunego to take more time - as he did. The best scenario for Saeco is
1/2 on GC, and Simoni's attack and the chase that resulted did at least
put a second Saeco on the podium (for now) by shelling Popovich.
Tomorrow should be interesting - last chance for the attackers!

That's $0.02 more,

SB

You forgot a third scenario:

Simoni attacks, everyone chases, dropping Cunego. They catch Simoni and
Saeco loses the Giro.

Luckily Cunego didn't get dropped... but you never know.
When you are in a position to defend do so, don't attack.

I gotta agree with Boyd. "Maybe" the Team knew Cunego felt good and sent
Simoni up the road to put the others in difficulty, handing Simoni the Stage
and further up in GC along with Cunego still in pink. However, I would think
that Simoni pacing Cunego would have been a better Team tactic...not sure
the Team dynamics...would love to know what was said in the pre race
meeting. It is interesing in one of the interviews that Cunego aludes to the
"plan" of Simoni attacking. Still seems like an interesting tactic to me if
it was planned.

Danny Callen

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"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in
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> What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
> He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
> I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> - Boyd S.

This line of thought, echoed by the OLN broadcast team, strikes me as
bizarre. Saeco should be concerned about winning the Giro, regardless
of which rider does it. With the maglia rosa on Cunego's back and

some

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time in hand, it frees Simoni to attack, forcing the other GC

contenders

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to chase, which allows the MR to sit in. The result being that either
Simoni goes up the road and takes the jersey, leaving them with a 1/2

GC

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result as Cunego marks the pursuers, or he fails, as he did, setting

up

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Cunego to take more time - as he did. The best scenario for Saeco is
1/2 on GC, and Simoni's attack and the chase that resulted did at

least

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put a second Saeco on the podium (for now) by shelling Popovich.
Tomorrow should be interesting - last chance for the attackers!

That's $0.02 more,

SB

You forgot a third scenario:

Simoni attacks, everyone chases, dropping Cunego. They catch Simoni and
Saeco loses the Giro.

Luckily Cunego didn't get dropped... but you never know.
When you are in a position to defend do so, don't attack.

I gotta agree with Boyd. "Maybe" the Team knew Cunego felt good and sent
Simoni up the road to put the others in difficulty, handing Simoni the

Stage

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and further up in GC along with Cunego still in pink. However, I would

think

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that Simoni pacing Cunego would have been a better Team tactic...not sure
the Team dynamics...would love to know what was said in the pre race
meeting. It is interesing in one of the interviews that Cunego aludes to

the

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"plan" of Simoni attacking. Still seems like an interesting tactic to me

if

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it was planned.

Danny Callen

True, it would've been the more usual strategy, and if they didn't have
confidence in Cunego that might've been the way played it. But with radios,
the DS knows in real time how everyone's feeling, and no one so far had
shown the ability to stay with Cunego on the climbs when he wanted to go.
So they plan their contingencies and when the time comes, DC tells Corti
he's good to go and they give Simoni the green light. Either way they win,
unless Cunego cracked, and if he was going to, he'd have likely shown signs
of weakness on the Gavia anyway. There was some risk, but for the possible
payoff of a 1/2 on GC, it seems they thought it a reasonable one. Obviously
they had to have faith in Cunego to call that move, and it was well-placed.

From the looks of it, the greater danger was that Simoni would blow and lose
4th, but that's a non-podium finish and not worth being conservative over
for the reigning champion. He clearly is not at the level of last year, and
his form was suspect coming into the Giro. But Saeco obviously want a 1/2,
and we'll see if he can get it for them Saturday.

Up to $0.04 now, which sounds about right, value-wise... ;-)

SB

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"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in message
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What a "classy" guy Simoni is!
He attacks his own teammate after promising not to do so.
I was very happy to see Cunego punch his clock later in the climb.

Just my $0.02,

- Boyd S.

This line of thought, echoed by the OLN broadcast team, strikes me as
bizarre. Saeco should be concerned about winning the Giro, regardless of
which rider does it. With the maglia rosa on Cunego's back and some time in
hand, it frees Simoni to attack, forcing the other GC contenders to chase,
which allows the MR to sit in. The result being that either Simoni goes up
the road and takes the jersey, leaving them with a 1/2 GC result as Cunego
marks the pursuers, or he fails, as he did, setting up Cunego to take more
time - as he did. The best scenario for Saeco is 1/2 on GC, and Simoni's
attack and the chase that resulted did at least put a second Saeco on the
podium (for now) by shelling Popovich. Tomorrow should be interesting -
last chance for the attackers!

That's $0.02 more,

I don't know what will happen tomorrow, but it is going to be
spectacular. I'm not convinced that Cunego has left Simoni out to dry
just yet, but after tomorrow, that's it.

There is so much changing of the guard going on... Nozal for IGG (Heras
is an entirely different animal), Boonen for Museeuw, Petacchi for
Cipollini, Rogers for Virenque (soon), and now Cunego for Simoni. The
way things are going, José Azevedo will probably win the Tour de
France...

-Sonarrat.

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I don't know what will happen tomorrow, but it is going to be
spectacular. I'm not convinced that Cunego has left Simoni out to dry
just yet, but after tomorrow, that's it.

Cunego has had a few good moments this year (leading up to the Giro, of
course), but I never would have thought of him a s a contender,let alone
the very likely winner of the Giro. At least not this year. Very impressive
ride.

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There is so much changing of the guard going on... Nozal for IGG (Heras
is an entirely different animal), Boonen for Museeuw, Petacchi for
Cipollini, Rogers for Virenque (soon),

Let's hope so. Actually, as far as I'm concerned, it could be just about
anybody for Virenque.

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The way things are going, José Azevedo will probably win the Tour de France...

-Sonarrat.

You'd like that, wouldn't you? (heh)

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