SIF hop - I suck.

just practise. travel around, find lots of differing objects of
differing heights.

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dan de man said:

this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
the impact apparently wasn't good for the wheel...

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practice. and for hand position i grab where the back part of the seat
starts to get narrow as it comes to the middle. it's hard to describe
but it's where basically everyone holds it for SIF. your back will get
stronger, ride SIF to help work on the balance and strength of those
muscles.

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definitally it gets easier after a while when you practice more. And
you get used to it eventually.

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ride with your seat higher. that'll help to get rid of some of the back
pain you're having. Other than that, it's practice.

I've written A LOT on sif jumping/hopping/dropping...so I'll try to dig
up some of my older posts.

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This is from an older post:

Quoted message said:

Basically what I do, is warm up how Zack Baldwin said that he warmed up.
I stretch my arms and legs before a ride. I might also do some static
jumps without the unicycle, and with those jumps I tuck my legs up
under me so that my knees basically hit my chest area. I also mount the
unicycle, pull the seat out, and lower my body, and seat over the tire,
until my butt touches the tire. Essentially I'm doing sif squats with
the unicycle. I try to make it a fluid motion without using a
corrective hop until I'm upright after dipping down. This helps so that
I don't bash the back of the seat into my ribs or collarbone when
landing a big up. It keeps the seat anywhere from a little to farther
away from my torso when I land on bigger stuff, for that reason. I do
about 4-6 squats before I consider myself warmed up and ready to go.
And if you notice in video Ryan Atkins and Zack Baldwin will, before a
big up or pedal grab, quickly drop/push the seat away from them and
bring it back in right before they compress the tire, like they are
adjusting it and their center of balance. It's another part of the
technique.

Everything else is just timing, tuck and practice practice practice.
The more you practice, the easier it is to judge how far away to be
from a ledge, and how much to compress and then snap into a tuck. I use
the rebound from the tire compressing (play with the tire pressure to
see what gives you the best bounce response) to boost me into the air.
As soon as I'm coming up from the rebound, I pull my knees/legs/feet
up. I also pull up on the seat, but my legs do most of the work. The
seat just helps, along with your spare arm (with the exception of your
spare arm being able to throw your weight in different dirrections), in
angling where you want to go. The tuck part is just like when I said
that I practice a high static hop without my unicycle. I bring my knees
to my chest. With a unicycle there's a little more weight added to the
game, of course, and your feet are in a different position along with
your arm on the seat, and you are balancing on a small footprint of
rubber. A lot of hopping is a mind game. I trick my mind into believing
that a big ledge is actually smaller than it is, when I first attempt a
new height. My static sif hops, no-pre-hop top out at around 34 inches,
as we speak. Zack once told me he'd done 37" without a pre-hop. I'm not
sure if I can go 34" seat-in. I've never tried anything over 24 inches
as far as I know...and that was rolling. I really don't have any use
for rolling seat-in, or static seat-in hops. But, if I practiced I'm
sure I could go 34 inches.

Start small. Work your way up. Defeat your mental blocks. I start on
smaller things to warm up during rides. And besides, there are some
small things that I ride that are a lot harder, more precise and
technical than some bigger stuff that I do.

--Evan

Hope it helps!

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it took me a long time to be able to jump high. just mess around with
it. eventually youll hit the right position. but remember to tuck. that
the most important part. if you dont tuck youll barely get off the
ground

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Practice!
A thin saddle will help you to jump high.

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I'm using the old KH seat (not the gel one) and it's a little too thick
for me to grab it around the middle. So what I'm doing is to just hang
on to the bottom with my fingers and my thumb's across the saddle
pointing front. It's one of the more comfy positions I can find but I
don't think it's correct because it offsets my balance to one side. I'm
also ripping off my saddle cover that way.

A few more questions:

I notice in vids that most tucks come from rolling hops where the tuck
happens when you're launched forward, feet front and butt back. The
momentum swings you forward - that's how it works right? What should I
do in the event of a bail? My biggest fear here is that I trip on a
pedal in mid air and break my fingers in the process.

With seat-in hops, to jump higher, I'd push down the saddle with my
hand just before launching. Does the equivalent happen for SIF? My
palm's not big enough to cover the span of the seat so is there any
remedy or alternative?

I'm also trying to do wheelhops (or hops on wheel.. what's the term?)
but I can't lift off the ground at all. I'm suspecting that SIF would
help that immensely because the motions are similar. Would the converse
be true? ie. once I work out wheelhops, I'd be better at SIF.

Thanks for all the help so far!

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Haha Me to sort of. I just don't hop sif cause I can hop relitivley
high seat in. You don't really need to learn to hop high sif🙄

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I think you could benifit by watching this tutorial video by Ryan
Atkins: http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albums/albus24/How_to.wmv (right
click, save as)

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Great! Thanks!

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Catboy said:

Me too. Try practicing the tuck with your feet on the crankarms first,
that added a foot onto my pathetic hopps.

????

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dan de man said:

this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
the impact apparently wasn't good for the wheel...

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what do you mean by having your feet on the cranks? like putting your
feet on the cranks and jumping up stuff? does that really help?

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dan de man said:

this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
the impact apparently wasn't good for the wheel...

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I think he meant putting your feet on the cranks, SIF while still on the
ground and practising squats... worked a bit for me to get my balance.

SOON I'LL BE KICKASS! MUAHAHAHAHHA

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