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  1. skip said:

    ...
    A couple of quick observations. You really think we invade countries to
    steal their oil? Do the math. Oil can be bought on the open market for a
    hell of a lot less...

    I though that Skip was old enough to remember the oil embargo of 1973.
    Oil is not necessarily on sale in the free market.

    US control of Middle Eastern oil would provide leverage when dealing
    with other economic and political competitors such as China, Japan, and
    the EU, all of which get a greater supply (percentage wise) of their oil
    from the Middle East than the US does. It could also provide a source of
    below market cost oil to the US in a time of shortage.

    It would also forestall the movement to sell oil for Euros [1], which
    would produce real "sticker shock" at the gas pumps (and other goods and
    services highly dependent on energy consumption).

    Do not forget the goal of the neo-cons (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et
    al) is "full spectrum dominance" of world affairs by the US.

    [1] Something Saddam Hussein threatened to do, therefore he had to go.

    --
    Tom Sherman - [ ]

  2. "....The high humidity in Florida would make cycling unpleasant much
    of the year. ..."

    Not that much worse than where you are some of the time. I cycled
    through the summer in Miami one summer. I didn't really mind it. (But
    then I have been known to do RAGBRAI.)

    There is often a breeze off the ocean, and afternoon showers are
    possible.

    I think cycling is the best warm weather activity because you are
    moving through the air at a good clip.
    Point taken about the cars in Florida though. They are lethal.

  3. "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    It comes a no surprise to hear you are hoping for an American economic
    decline, environmental destruction, etc. You have been anti-American for
    as long as I can remember. Hoping for bad outcomes for America and
    Americans seems to be your mind set.

    Ed needs to give you a good talking to.

    $$$$$$kip

    Skip, it is a pleasure for me to sit back and let others take on the chore
    of corralling Mr. Tom Sherman. Sometimes when I am reading your posts I am
    reminded of myself (minus the invective), but I will never bother to look up
    anything whereas you do. But many others here are now posting their comments
    to the usual outrageous liberal ranting of Mr. Sherman. I am delighted to
    see this and feel that I have accomplished my mission here on ARBR. I will
    only get involved if and when I do not see any opposition to liberal,
    socialist, communist ranting.

    My specialty is actually VERY off topic subjects which most people will not
    have the slightest interest in. I am a side dish here on ARBR, not a main
    dish.

    --
    Best Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  4. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    It comes a no surprise to hear you are hoping for an American economic
    decline, environmental destruction, etc. You have been anti-American for
    as long as I can remember. Hoping for bad outcomes for America and
    Americans seems to be your mind set.

    Ed needs to give you a good talking to.

    $$$$$$kip

    Skip, it is a pleasure for me to sit back and let others take on the chore
    of corralling Mr. Tom Sherman. Sometimes when I am reading your posts I am
    reminded of myself (minus the invective), but I will never bother to look
    up anything whereas you do. But many others here are now posting their
    comments to the usual outrageous liberal ranting of Mr. Sherman. I am
    delighted to see this and feel that I have accomplished my mission here on
    ARBR. I will only get involved if and when I do not see any opposition to
    liberal, socialist, communist ranting.

    My specialty is actually VERY off topic subjects which most people will
    not have the slightest interest in. I am a side dish here on ARBR, not a
    main dish.

    --
    Best Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    No way Ed. I can't handle Tom by myself. I mean you take Saturday off -
    and he immediately starts trouble on multiple fronts. You are a Rumsfield.
    I am a guardsman. Come on.

    skip

  5. skip said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    It comes a no surprise to hear you are hoping for an American economic
    decline, environmental destruction, etc. You have been anti-American for
    as long as I can remember. Hoping for bad outcomes for America and
    Americans seems to be your mind set.

    Ed needs to give you a good talking to.

    $$$$$$kip

    Skip, it is a pleasure for me to sit back and let others take on the chore
    of corralling Mr. Tom Sherman. Sometimes when I am reading your posts I am
    reminded of myself (minus the invective), but I will never bother to look
    up anything whereas you do. But many others here are now posting their
    comments to the usual outrageous liberal ranting of Mr. Sherman. I am
    delighted to see this and feel that I have accomplished my mission here on
    ARBR. I will only get involved if and when I do not see any opposition to
    liberal, socialist, communist ranting.

    My specialty is actually VERY off topic subjects which most people will
    not have the slightest interest in. I am a side dish here on ARBR, not a
    main dish.

    --
    Best Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    No way Ed. I can't handle Tom by myself. I mean you take Saturday off -
    and he immediately starts trouble on multiple fronts. You are a Rumsfield.
    I am a guardsman. Come on.

    Ed Dolan is starting to bore me to the point that I barely pay attention
    to what he writes anymore.

    As for me starting anything, who wrote the gratuitous, smug, and
    patronizing comment about Columbine in the first place?

    --
    Tom Sherman

  6. "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    No way Ed. I can't handle Tom by myself. I mean you take Saturday off -
    and he immediately starts trouble on multiple fronts. You are a
    Rumsfield. I am a guardsman. Come on.

    skip

    Skip, I HAD to take the day off because all the water pipes in my house are
    now frozen solid. It got really cold here this past weekend and then the
    wind changed direction and blew from the South - and that will freeze my
    pipes every time. The problem is that this old house I am living in goes
    back to my grandparents time (1875) and none of us successors ever did any
    maintenance. As a result, the house is falling down around my head and I am
    in a race with the house to see who is going to survive who.

    The house leaks air like a barn. When the wind blows I can see my curtains
    waving back and forth. I have had strangers knock on my door telling me that
    they can feel heat out there on the sidewalk coming from the house. Don't
    even ask me about my heating bills. Any day now the city housing inspector
    may show up and condemn this old house - and me too no doubt. The last time
    he was over here he told me that I could continue to live here but that I
    couldn't rent the place or even sell the place the way it is now. Talk about
    the Fall of the House of Usher!

    The only way to prevent the water pipes from freezing in the winter is to
    let all the faucets continuously drip for several months. Don't even ask me
    about my water bills. Now you know why I love Minnesota so and I would never
    even think of leaving this wonderful state.

    As I sit here in my very cold house in my snowmobile suit with my hundred
    degrees below zero boots on my feet and my double knit cap on my head
    (despite my high heating bills I have got probably the coldest house in
    Minnesota), I am reading the poetry of Robert Service, you know, all those
    ones that go on and on about freezing to death. Like Sam McGee, I wouldn't
    mind crawling INTO my furnace to finally warm up even if it killed me.

    Since it is such a great poem and so closely mirrors what I feel about the
    Great White North, I have included it here for all of you in South Florida
    to read and to see what you have missed. Also, you will now know why I hold
    all Alaskans to be completely insane. And Minnesotans are not far behind.
    The Polar regions are for the polar bears - period!

    Best Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    The Cremation of Sam McGee
    There are strange things done in the midnight sun
    By the men who moil for gold;
    The Arctic trails have their secret tales
    That would make your blood run cold;
    The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
    But the queerest they ever did see
    Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
    I cremated Sam McGee.

    Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee,
    Where the cotton blooms and blows.
    Why he left his home in the South to roam
    'Round the Pole, God only knows.
    He was always cold, but the land of gold
    Seemed to hold him like a spell;
    Though he'd often say in his homely way
    That he'd "sooner live in hell".

    On a Christmas Day we were mushing our way
    Over the Dawson trail.
    Talk of your cold! through the parka's fold
    It stabbed like a driven nail.
    If our eyes we'd close, then the lashes froze
    Till sometimes we couldn't see;
    It wasn't much fun, but the only one
    To whimper was Sam McGee.

    And that very night, as we lay packed tight
    In our robes beneath the snow,
    And the dogs were fed, and the stars o'erhead
    Were dancing heel and toe,
    He turned to me, and "Cap," says he,
    "I'll cash in this trip, I guess;
    And if I do, I'm asking that you
    Won't refuse my last request."

    Well, he seemed so low that I couldn't say no;
    Then he says with a sort of moan:
    "It's the cursed cold, and it's got right hold
    Till I'm chilled clean through to the bone.
    Yet 'tain't being dead -- it's my awful dread
    Of the icy grave that pains;
    So I want you to swear that, foul or fair,
    You'll cremate my last remains."

    A pal's last need is a thing to heed,
    So I swore I would not fail;
    And we started on at the streak of dawn;
    But God! he looked ghastly pale.
    He crouched on the sleigh, and he raved all day
    Of his home in Tennessee;
    And before nightfall a corpse was all
    That was left of Sam McGee.

    There wasn't a breath in that land of death,
    And I hurried, horror-driven,
    With a corpse half hid that I couldn't get rid,
    Because of a promise given;
    It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say:
    "You may tax your brawn and brains,
    But you promised true, and it's up to you
    To cremate those last remains."

    Now a promise made is a debt unpaid,
    And the trail has its own stern code.
    In the days to come, though my lips were dumb,
    In my heart how I cursed that load.
    In the long, long night, by the lone firelight,
    While the huskies, round in a ring,
    Howled out their woes to the homeless snows --
    O God! how I loathed the thing.

    And every day that quiet clay
    Seemed to heavy and heavier grow;
    And on I went, though the dogs were spent
    And the grub was getting low;
    The trail was bad, and I felt half mad,
    But I swore I would not give in;
    And I'd often sing to the hateful thing,
    And it hearkened with a grin.

    Till I came to the marge of Lake Lebarge,
    And a derelict there lay;
    It was jammed in the ice, but I saw in a trice
    It was called the "Alice May".
    And I looked at it, and I thought a bit,
    And I looked at my frozen chum;
    Then "Here," said I, with a sudden cry,
    "Is my cre-ma-tor-eum."

    Some planks I tore from the cabin floor,
    And I lit the boiler fire;
    Some coal I found that was lying around,
    And I heaped the fuel higher;
    The flames just soared, and the furnace roared --
    Such a blaze you seldom see;
    And I burrowed a hole in the glowing coal,
    And I stuffed in Sam McGee.

    Then I made a hike, for I didn't like
    To hear him sizzle so;
    And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled,
    And the wind began to blow.
    It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled
    Down my cheeks, and I don't know why;
    And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak
    Went streaking down the sky.

    I do not know how long in the snow
    I wrestled with grisly fear;
    But the stars came out and they danced about
    Ere again I ventured near;
    I was sick with dread, but I bravely said:
    "I'll just take a peep inside.
    I guess he's cooked, and it's time I looked"; . . .
    Then the door I opened wide.

    And there sat Sam, looking cool and calm,
    In the heart of the furnace roar;
    And he wore a smile you could see a mile,
    And he said: "Please close that door.
    It's fine in here, but I greatly fear
    You'll let in the cold and storm --
    Since I left Plumtree, down in Tennessee,
    It's the first time I've been warm."

    There are strange things done in the midnight sun
    By the men who moil for gold;
    The Arctic trails have their secret tales
    That would make your blood run cold;
    The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
    But the queerest they ever did see
    Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
    I cremated Sam McGee.

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "....The high humidity in Florida would make cycling unpleasant much
    of the year. ..."

    Not that much worse than where you are some of the time. I cycled
    through the summer in Miami one summer. I didn't really mind it. (But
    then I have been known to do RAGBRAI.)

    There is often a breeze off the ocean, and afternoon showers are
    possible.

    I think cycling is the best warm weather activity because you are
    moving through the air at a good clip.
    Point taken about the cars in Florida though. They are lethal.

    About three or so years ago I did the GRABAAWR bike tour in Wisconsin. The
    first few days we were in extreme northern Wisconsin and it felt like we
    were in the tropics. The temp was high and the humidity was even higher and
    not a breeze either. Everyone just about croaked. Us older gents especially
    suffered. At that moment I began to rethink my bike touring options and
    realized I was not really up to this kind of all-weather touring anymore.

    What really convinced me though was on the last day of the tour the weather
    changed and we got a really cold all day rain. I mean it just poured. After
    about 20 miles in the rain I could feel myself going into hypothermia. I
    pulled in at a gas station and I couldn't get my teeth to stop chattering. I
    said to myself, I have had it with these confounded bike tours. At the same
    time I was thinking that, a big burly former Marine sergeant came into the
    gas station yelling and cursing ... "This is [censored]" ... at the top of his
    voice. Yes, enuf is finally enuf!

    Bike tours really only work provided you have half way decent weather. Too
    much cold, too much heat, too much rain, too much humidity, too much
    aridity, too much sun, too much wind, too much uphill, too much rough roads,
    too much traffic, etc., etc. I say forget about it! Do your own small rides
    when everything is optimal. Bike tours are the invention of the Devil and
    they are a good way to get yourself killed.

    --
    Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  8. "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    No way Ed. I can't handle Tom by myself. I mean you take Saturday off -
    and he immediately starts trouble on multiple fronts. You are a
    Rumsfield. I am a guardsman. Come on.

    Quoted message said:


    Ed Dolan is starting to bore me to the point that I barely pay attention
    to what he writes anymore.

    As for me starting anything, who wrote the gratuitous, smug, and
    patronizing comment about Columbine in the first place?

    --
    Tom Sherman

    Ok. I'm sorry I made the gratuitous, smug, and patronizing comments about
    those wanton cold blooded no good punk killers of the Columbine students and
    teachers. I guess I had forgotten how some of the guys on the football team
    weren't friendly toward them. And the part about Murray bike frames being
    suitable for making pipe bombs was especially gratuitous. I'll think twice
    before I say something like that again.

    skip

  9. "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    skip said:

    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >It comes a no surprise to hear you are hoping for an American economic
    >decline, environmental destruction, etc. You have been anti-American
    >for as long as I can remember. Hoping for bad outcomes for America and
    >Americans seems to be your mind set.
    >
    >Ed needs to give you a good talking to.
    >
    >$$$$$$kip

    Skip, it is a pleasure for me to sit back and let others take on the
    chore of corralling Mr. Tom Sherman. Sometimes when I am reading your
    posts I am reminded of myself (minus the invective), but I will never
    bother to look up anything whereas you do. But many others here are now
    posting their comments to the usual outrageous liberal ranting of Mr.
    Sherman. I am delighted to see this and feel that I have accomplished my
    mission here on ARBR. I will only get involved if and when I do not see
    any opposition to liberal, socialist, communist ranting.

    My specialty is actually VERY off topic subjects which most people will
    not have the slightest interest in. I am a side dish here on ARBR, not a
    main dish.

    --
    Best Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

    No way Ed. I can't handle Tom by myself. I mean you take Saturday off -
    and he immediately starts trouble on multiple fronts. You are a
    Rumsfield. I am a guardsman. Come on.

    Ed Dolan is starting to bore me to the point that I barely pay attention
    to what he writes anymore.

    Ah, if only that were true! This is the kind of guy who probably does Google
    searches on his own name to see who might be saying something about him. Mr.
    Sherman is a man who loves to discuss facts. I am a man who disdains facts
    and even hold them in contempt. He is forever beneath his pitiful facts; I
    am forever above all facts. I leave it to the reader who is the more
    interesting and entertaining writer.

    Quoted message said:

    As for me starting anything, who wrote the gratuitous, smug, and
    patronizing comment about Columbine in the first place?

    The main thing that has changed with respect to Mr. Sherman's posts is that
    he is becoming more like me. Note how I am NOT becoming more like him. He
    has always been a name caller of course (as am I), but now he is resorting
    to it more directly. He is in fact copying me! I will admit my charisma is
    great and there are none that can resist it. I am an exemplar if nothing
    else.

    But if Mr. Sherman would like to get involved with Johnny NoCom and his
    fellow Monkey Islanders, he is more than welcome to leave this group for
    them anytime he wants. ARBR will have to struggle on without him. However,
    it appears he will have another Ed (Gin?) there for him to do battle with.
    Ah, the injustice of it all!

    --
    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  10. Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    But if Mr. Sherman would like to get involved with Johnny NoCom and his
    fellow Monkey Islanders, he is more than welcome to leave this group for
    them anytime he wants. ARBR will have to struggle on without him. However,
    it appears he will have another Ed (Gin?) there for him to do battle with.
    Ah, the injustice of it all!

    Huh? Why would I have any problems with Ed Gin? I know Ed Gin (and
    several other "Monkeys"😉 well enough to laugh with them when they are
    deliberately being outrageous, and to join in on the good-natured trash
    talking.

    More proof that Mr. Dolan knows not of what he speaks.

    --
    Tom Sherman

  11. Edward Dolan said:

    "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    But if Mr. Sherman would like to get involved with Johnny NoCom and his
    fellow Monkey Islanders, he is more than welcome to leave this group for
    them anytime he wants. ARBR will have to struggle on without him.
    However, it appears he will have another Ed (Gin?) there for him to do
    battle with. Ah, the injustice of it all!

    Huh? Why would I have any problems with Ed Gin? I know Ed Gin (and several
    other "Monkeys"😉 well enough to laugh with them when they are deliberately
    being outrageous, and to join in on the good-natured trash talking.

    More proof that Mr. Dolan knows not of what he speaks.

    Well, if you like to read Johnny NoCom (who I understand is really Ed Gin)
    then you are more juvenile and obsessive than we ever thought you were.
    Johnny NoCom is truly a one note Johnny. But we all know that you too ride a
    low racer and so the connection is not totally lost on the rest of us. I
    myself wouldn't be caught dead on a low racer, but maybe that is just me....

    Ed Gin helped set up my Sunset (from measurement sent by email) before I
    purchased it, so I could test ride it. I have not made any changes
    besides a small adjustment to handlebar angle (changing the stop screw
    adjustment on the RANS Flip-It [1]).

    Quoted message said:

    But you are surely welcome to that group. In fact, I think you might fit
    right in. But you need to get up to speed on your trash talk. One way to do
    this would be to have a lobotomy. The other way is to revert to your own
    childhood. But I think it is ridiculous for a grown man to be acting like a
    teenager....

    I am willing to engage in trash talk. Would you like to discuss the
    material and compaction requirements for landfill liners and caps?

    [1] Flip-It and T-handlebars installed for the previous owner by Chicago
    Monkey Earl Russell.

    --
    Tom Sherman

  12. "Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [1] Flip-It and T-handlebars installed for the previous owner by Chicago
    Monkey Earl Russell.

    Would that be "Guess Who I Am" and "Thank you. Earl."

    Another character for sure. They all seem to have speed on the brain and
    that is all they ever want to talk about and so they are ultimately
    uninteresting to me. But to each his own.

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman

    I have noted your very abbreviated signature, most unusual for you. I think
    peacocks like us should have a grandiose and flowery signature. After all,
    we are royalty here on ARBR. May I suggest the following for long term
    usage:

    Tom Sherman - Rock Island, Illinois

    It just looks right and it sounds right too. Both place names have a grand
    tradition and the Europeans just love our Indian names like Illinois and
    Minnesota and Iowa and Wisconsin , etc., etc.

    --
    Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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