Shoulda Packed the Floaties

Anyone had much experience with riding through water that can give me
some advice would be appreciated.

Gags

Not a good idea, seriously,it's dangerous with such volumes of water &
a swift current. The entrance to the Yarra path to the left of Gipps
St Bridge was taped off too. Does anyone know if Burnley Wharf floated
above it or was slightly sunk? I caught the Upfield line later on
Wednesday, the line of rubbish & [censored] along Moonee Ponds was
incrediable, looked like most of the lower part must of been
impassable earlier.

Got caught daydreaming along the lower part of the Moonee Ponds Paths a
couple of years back, the little warning beacons didn't alert me to the
water ahead. When bike & I stopped like a rock, courtesy of two full
panniers and 1m of water I realised something was amiss under the
trainbridge. It was a long soggy crappy trip back to Coburg, and then I
had to dry everything out + take the bike apart. 😠

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"Gags" <drgagnon@nospam_ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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I know I probably shouldn't have rode through the water but it seemed like

a

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good idea at the time.

I did the very same thing about a year ago. It fun the first time, as long
as you remember where the path went and dont find a new pot-hole.

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I have got Deore "sealed" hubs (ie the rubber cone
on the outside of the hub) and I am wondering whether I should strip the
hubs down and repack with grease or if I should not worry about it??

Also,

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I have been told in the past that modern bottom brackets are also "sealed"
and shouldn't be stripped down (although I am not sure if this still

applies

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for actually riding with the BB submerged??).

My hubs arent sealed at all, so they needed to be serviced. I have a
cartridge BB that seems to have come through ok, but some "sealed" BB arent
sealed on the inside so if water gets in the frame it will need a service
to. In fact see http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8f.6.html about sealed
bearings. Other things to think about. Pedals, l have shimano M424s and they
were fine, free wheel/hub, I serviced mine, derailleurs, ditto. cables.
pump, yer even it had to come apart.
You had fun didnt you?

I guess it depends how far, how deep and how well the seals worked.
Anyone else got some ideas?

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Anyone had much experience with riding through water that can give me some
advice would be appreciated.

Gags

I too have Deore "sealed" hubs. Looks to me that they are dust seals only,
of your hubs were submerged, I'd pull them and look. The seals are NOT
waterproof, by my estimation.

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"Gags" <drgagnon@nospam_ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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I know I probably shouldn't have rode through the water but it seemed

like

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a

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good idea at the time.

I did the very same thing about a year ago. It fun the first time, as long
as you remember where the path went and dont find a new pot-hole.

Quoted message said:

I have got Deore "sealed" hubs (ie the rubber cone
on the outside of the hub) and I am wondering whether I should strip the
hubs down and repack with grease or if I should not worry about it??

Also,

Quoted message said:

I have been told in the past that modern bottom brackets are also

"sealed"

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and shouldn't be stripped down (although I am not sure if this still

applies

Quoted message said:

for actually riding with the BB submerged??).

My hubs arent sealed at all, so they needed to be serviced. I have a
cartridge BB that seems to have come through ok, but some "sealed" BB

arent

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sealed on the inside so if water gets in the frame it will need a service
to. In fact see http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8f.6.html about sealed
bearings. Other things to think about. Pedals, l have shimano M424s and

they

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were fine, free wheel/hub, I serviced mine, derailleurs, ditto. cables.
pump, yer even it had to come apart.
You had fun didnt you?

I guess it depends how far, how deep and how well the seals worked.
Anyone else got some ideas?

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Anyone had much experience with riding through water that can give me

some

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advice would be appreciated.

Gags

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:23:47 +1100, Gags <drgagnon@nospam_ozemail.com.au> Wrote :

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Anyone had much experience with riding through water that can give me some
advice would be appreciated.

What's it going to cost you to give all the bearings a good clean and
repack with grease ? An hour or two - depending on the number of beers..:-)
What's it cost to do nothing ? Possibly a whole lot of grief when it
all goes bad. I'd just go and buy a few beers, some grease and spend a
couple of hours making sure...:-)

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What's it going to cost you to give all the bearings a good clean and
repack with grease ? An hour or two - depending on the number of

beers..:-)

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What's it cost to do nothing ? Possibly a whole lot of grief when it
all goes bad. I'd just go and buy a few beers, some grease and spend a
couple of hours making sure...:-)

Just make sure you start the servicing BEFORE starting
the beers. I've done it the wrong way around many times
and the repairs, strangely, never seem to happen...

hippy ;-)

FYI, keep an eye on this for further developments:

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http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR023.loop.shtml#image

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Just make sure you start the servicing BEFORE starting
the beers. I've done it the wrong way around many times

Good thinking that man...

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and the repairs, strangely, never seem to happen...

The big worry is the repairs that _do_ happen...:-)

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hippy ;-)

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BAH Humbug

your hubs cannot be submersed that deep, they are primarily dust sheilds and
Mud sheild and can survive random splashes of water. but not full
submersion... i would rebuild the hubs after a good clean and dry and then
re pack with grease.

sorry

Mitch "Better to be safe then sorry" Pollard

"Gags" <drgagnon@nospam_ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Rode to work this morning along the Yarra Trail after the storms in

Northern

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Suburbs of Melbourne last night (it was a beauty). A few of the small
pedestrian bridges had their handrails broken by floodwaters and there was
heaps of corrosion of the track on the hills. Near the Cunningham Hwy

there

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was a bit of a rockslide/landslide and the concrete bike path was covered

in

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about 4 inches of mud that was strewn with rocks up to about fist size. I
had a couple of stretches of path where I rode through and the water was

at

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the top of my forks (gotta love wet feet) but I was forced to detour at
Dwights Falls (Collingwood).

The usually sedate falls were a raging torrent and where the bike path
normally goes next to a cyclone fence that is at least 6 foot high, there
was about 4 inches of fence above the water. It was way too dangerous to
try to pass and it was pretty disappointing to see the amount of rubbish
that was trapped in the eddies created by the big left hand bend in the
river after the falls.

I know I probably shouldn't have rode through the water but it seemed like

a

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good idea at the time. I have got Deore "sealed" hubs (ie the rubber cone
on the outside of the hub) and I am wondering whether I should strip the
hubs down and repack with grease or if I should not worry about it??

Also,

Quoted message said:

I have been told in the past that modern bottom brackets are also "sealed"
and shouldn't be stripped down (although I am not sure if this still

applies

Quoted message said:

for actually riding with the BB submerged??).

Anyone had much experience with riding through water that can give me some
advice would be appreciated.

Gags

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your hubs cannot be submersed that deep, they are primarily dust sheilds

and

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Mud sheild and can survive random splashes of water. but not full
submersion... i would rebuild the hubs after a good clean and dry and then
re pack with grease.

sorry

If you are going to the trouble of taking appart your hubs, do you also go
through and put in new bearings at the same time? Is that a good idea?

I am just now getting used to and enjoying servicing my own bike, and am
doing it kinda blind (with the exception of the wonderful advice I get from
newsgroups of course!).

Thanks,

Tim

depends what you are paying for the new ones
l get mine from a bearing shop, much cheaper then the LBS

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"BAH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1ntlqb.oj9.ln@really...

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What's it going to cost you to give all the bearings a good clean and
repack with grease ? An hour or two - depending on the number of

beers..:-)

Quoted message said:

What's it cost to do nothing ? Possibly a whole lot of grief when it
all goes bad. I'd just go and buy a few beers, some grease and spend a
couple of hours making sure...:-)

Just make sure you start the servicing BEFORE starting
the beers. I've done it the wrong way around many times
and the repairs, strangely, never seem to happen...

hippy ;-)

Well....looks like I better not make too many plans for Saturday
morning.....guess I am on the road bike until then.

Thanks guys (although I was hoping for "yeah, they are waterproof.....just
keep riding"😉

Gags