Should I?

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You SHOULD put something 'descriptive' in the SUBJECT
line, that's what is there for !!!

You also _should_ leave some of the original post, to give
your reply some context.

Pete.

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"Wild Wind" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2i9idqFkcoi2U1@uni-
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I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to
motorists who give way to me when I'm on a roundabout,
or desist from squeezing past me on a narrow section
of road.

Is this right, because it will encourage them to do
the same the next time they encounter another cyclist
in the same situation?

Or is this wrong because it will make them think that
they are somehow doing me a 'favour' instead of
obeying the HC, and that they would be justified in
not doing the same if they were in a hurry next time?
(Remember that not every motorist believes - albeit
wrongly - that cyclists have quite the same status on
the roads as other vehicles.)

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I don't believe there can ever be too much politeness
out on the roads.

So long as it doesn't lead to "After you, Claude" "No,
after *you*" "No, after *you*"

Then both decide to go at the same time.

Which is why (generally) :

If it's your right-of-way - take it (provided doing so
isn't going to

cause

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a problem) If it's NOT your right-of-way - give it.

Sometimes, there are occasions when it would have been
nice to stop and, say, let someone cross. Great - until
motorbike man thunders up the

outside

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("Wot's 'ee bloody well 'angin' around for"😉 .... and
ploughs into the people who are crossing in front of your
vehicle. Who *caused* the accident?

Better - safer - for *everyone* to *know* the rules, and
*abide by

them.*.

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Then we all might have some chance of knowing what other
people are doing ....

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As a driver, I don't sit there thinking I've done that
cyclist a favour

when

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one waves. I tend to believe that they're just grateful
that they

haven't

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had another git trying to get to the next jam faster
than them. As a cyclist I always wave. Anything to help
get them out of the trance

they

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normally drive around in. Dave.

It's a bugger getting out of our estate in the rush hour.
There is an unwritten rule that people turning right into
the estate will hold back to let people out. Sometimes they
flash, but that normally isn't necessary. A bit of
politeness is never amiss. And as a cyclist, I often thank
people for being considerate.

Brian

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Originally posted by Wild Wind
I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to motorists who
give way to me when I'm on a roundabout, or desist from
squeezing past me on a narrow section of road.

Is this right, because it will encourage them to do the same
the next time they encounter another cyclist in the same
situation?

Or is this wrong because it will make them think that they
are somehow doing me a 'favour' instead of obeying the HC,
and that they would be justified in not doing the same if
they were in a hurry next time? (Remember that not every
motorist believes - albeit wrongly - that cyclists have
quite the same status on the roads as other vehicles.)

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aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

Again I have to say I have more experience of this from a horse rider's point of view than from a cyclist (being a recent enthusiast). When out on my horse I ALWAYS thank considerate drivers, either by a wave or by a smile and a nod if I need two hands for the reins. Drivers appreciate it too and it shows we are not arrogant about our use of the road.

Wild Wind said:

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I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to
motorists who give way

to

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me when I'm on a roundabout, or desist from squeezing
past me on a narrow section of road. Is this right,
because it will encourage them to do the same the next
time they encounter another cyclist in the same
situation? Or is this wrong because it will make them
think that they are somehow doing me a 'favour'
instead of obeying the HC, and that they would be
justified in not doing the same if they were in a
hurry next time? (Remember that not every motorist
believes - albeit wrongly - that cyclists have quite
the same status on the roads as other vehicles.)

I wave if I've had a motorist wait behind me for a length of
time before overtaking me considerately. I don't regard this
as being subservient any more than if I was driving and got
stuck behind a tractor or caravan whose driver waves to me
when I eventually overtake. I've had drivers (cars and
lorries) wave in appreciation when I've pulled over on my
bike to let them pass, again this is a courtesy that's been
extended to me as a driver by other drivers.

Pete

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Again I have to say I have more experience of this from a
horse rider's point of view than from a cyclist (being a
recent enthusiast).

Perhaps you could tell me the best way to aproach a horse &
rider from behind? I usually shout "Hello" when I'm in
earshot, then give a wave when the rider turns round to see
what's going on. Is that ok, or sould I be ringing my bell
frantically? Clearly it's more fun to remain quiet, then
shoot past the beast and see how far it runs, but sometimes
the riders swear at me if I do that.
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Perhaps you could tell me the best way to aproach a horse
& rider from behind? I usually shout "Hello" when I'm in
earshot, then give a wave when the rider turns round to
see what's going on. Is that ok, or sould I be ringing my
bell frantically?

As soon as I think I'm within earshot I call out a friendly
greeting, the riders usually seem to appreciate this.
However, on one occasion a rider turned around and I thought
clearly saw me before I considered I was within earshot so I
didn't speak 'til alongside and then to say hello, she then
berated me for not announcing my approach to which I replied
I didn't bother as I thought I'd already been seen....anyway
I think the conversation ended up something along the lines
of "f8ck off you miserable cow". Politeness can only be
carried so far unilaterally :-(

Pete