Should I?

Martin² said:

You SHOULD put something 'descriptive' in the SUBJECT line, that's what is
there for !!!

Cite please. I can't find this in any of the RFCs dealing with NNTP.
<g>

Pete Barrett

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You SHOULD put something 'descriptive' in the SUBJECT line, that's what is
there for !!!

You also _should_ leave some of the original post, to give your reply some
context.

Pete.

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Wild Wind said:

I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to motorists who give way to
me when I'm on a roundabout, or desist from squeezing past me on a
narrow section of road.
Is this right, because it will encourage them to do the same the next
time they encounter another cyclist in the same situation?
Or is this wrong because it will make them think that they are somehow
doing me a 'favour' instead of obeying the HC, and that they would be
justified in not doing the same if they were in a hurry next time?
(Remember that not every motorist believes - albeit wrongly - that
cyclists have quite the same status on the roads as other vehicles.)
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Again I have to say I have more experience of this from a horse rider's
point of view than from a cyclist (being a recent enthusiast). When out
on my horse I ALWAYS thank considerate drivers, either by a wave or by a
smile and a nod if I need two hands for the reins. Drivers appreciate it
too and it shows we are not arrogant about our use of the road.

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I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to motorists who
give way to me when I'm on a roundabout, or desist
from squeezing past me on a narrow section of road.

Is this right, because it will encourage them to do
the same the next time they encounter another cyclist
in the same situation?

Or is this wrong because it will make them think that
they are somehow doing me a 'favour' instead of obeying
the HC, and that they would be justified in not doing
the same if they were in a hurry next time? (Remember that
not every motorist believes - albeit wrongly - that cyclists
have quite the same status on the roads as other vehicles.)

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I don't believe there can ever be too much politeness out on the roads.

So long as it doesn't lead to "After you, Claude"
"No, after *you*"
"No, after *you*"

Then both decide to go at the same time.

Which is why (generally) :

If it's your right-of-way - take it (provided doing so isn't going to

cause

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a problem)
If it's NOT your right-of-way - give it.

Sometimes, there are occasions when it would have been nice to stop and,
say, let someone cross. Great - until motorbike man thunders up the

outside

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("Wot's 'ee bloody well 'angin' around for"😉 .... and ploughs into the
people who are crossing in front of your vehicle. Who *caused* the
accident?

Better - safer - for *everyone* to *know* the rules, and *abide by

them.*.

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Then we all might have some chance of knowing what other people are doing
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As a driver, I don't sit there thinking I've done that cyclist a favour

when

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one waves. I tend to believe that they're just grateful that they

haven't

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had another git trying to get to the next jam faster than them.
As a cyclist I always wave. Anything to help get them out of the trance

they

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normally drive around in.
Dave.

It's a bugger getting out of our estate in the rush hour. There is an
unwritten rule that people turning right into the estate will hold back to
let people out. Sometimes they flash, but that normally isn't necessary. A
bit of politeness is never amiss. And as a cyclist, I often thank people for
being considerate.

Brian

Wild Wind said:

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I have a habit of sometimes waving 'thanks' to motorists who give way

to

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me when I'm on a roundabout, or desist from squeezing past me on a
narrow section of road.
Is this right, because it will encourage them to do the same the next
time they encounter another cyclist in the same situation?
Or is this wrong because it will make them think that they are somehow
doing me a 'favour' instead of obeying the HC, and that they would be
justified in not doing the same if they were in a hurry next time?
(Remember that not every motorist believes - albeit wrongly - that
cyclists have quite the same status on the roads as other vehicles.)

I wave if I've had a motorist wait behind me for a length of time before
overtaking me considerately. I don't regard this as being subservient any
more than if I was driving and got stuck behind a tractor or caravan whose
driver waves to me when I eventually overtake.
I've had drivers (cars and lorries) wave in appreciation when I've pulled
over on my bike to let them pass, again this is a courtesy that's been
extended to me as a driver by other drivers.

Pete

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Again I have to say I have more experience of this from a horse
rider's point of view than from a cyclist (being a recent
enthusiast).

Perhaps you could tell me the best way to aproach a horse & rider from
behind? I usually shout "Hello" when I'm in earshot, then give a wave when
the rider turns round to see what's going on. Is that ok, or sould I be
ringing my bell frantically?
Clearly it's more fun to remain quiet, then shoot past the beast and see how
far it runs, but sometimes the riders swear at me if I do that.
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Perhaps you could tell me the best way to aproach a horse & rider from
behind? I usually shout "Hello" when I'm in earshot, then give a wave when
the rider turns round to see what's going on. Is that ok, or sould I be
ringing my bell frantically?

As soon as I think I'm within earshot I call out a friendly greeting, the
riders usually seem to appreciate this. However, on one occasion a rider
turned around and I thought clearly saw me before I considered I was within
earshot so I didn't speak 'til alongside and then to say hello, she then
berated me for not announcing my approach to which I replied I didn't bother
as I thought I'd already been seen....anyway I think the conversation ended
up something along the lines of "f8ck off you miserable cow". Politeness can
only be carried so far unilaterally :-(

Pete