shopping trip - low carb

MisNomer said:

So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a fellow was there right near the flour. He
says, "I'm looking for low carb flour"... so, thinking he
was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder what low carb
flour is
- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked away.

This will be with us far a while. Like people calling my
radio program asking for non-fat Alfredo recipes and eggless
custards, but not fake stuff for all the years that low-fat
was THE answer. We have a new THE answer.

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oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost half price! But on getting home - I am
thinking what do they use to make "low carb" stuff out of?
Anything I have seen advertised "low carb" is full of
stuff I haven't heard of or its all really small things.

There are such things as "destarched" wheat flour, protein
isolates (from wheat, milk, soy, etc.), soy flour, flaxmeal,
low-glycemic corn starch and a lot of other things that make
a bread-looking loaf. Mostly they're not as good as one
would hope.

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Is there such thing as low carb bread?

Low is in the eye of the beholder. There are breads that
tout 6 or 7 net grams carb per slice (total carbs minus
fiber = net carbs). They're whole wheatish in appearance and
texture, for the most part. Best toasted.

Pastorio

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Quoted message said:

So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a

fellow was

Quoted message said:

there right near the flour. He says, "I'm looking for low
carb flour"...

so,

Quoted message said:

thinking he was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder
what low carb

flour is

Quoted message said:

- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked away.

oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost

half

Quoted message said:

price! But on getting home - I am thinking what do they
use to make "low

carb"

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stuff out of? Anything I have seen advertised "low carb"
is full of stuff

I

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haven't heard of or its all really small things.

Is there such thing as low carb bread?

Low carb baked good do exist but in my experience range from
barely edible to horrid. Bread and similar things are made
from ingredients such as toasted wheat bran, almond meal,
soy protein, whey, and usually a little bit of wheat flour.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

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Quoted message said:

So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a

fellow was

Quoted message said:

there right near the flour. He says, "I'm looking for low
carb flour"...

so,

Quoted message said:

thinking he was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder
what low carb

flour is

Quoted message said:

- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked away.

oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost

half

Quoted message said:

price! But on getting home - I am thinking what do they
use to make "low

carb"

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stuff out of? Anything I have seen advertised "low carb"
is full of stuff

I

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haven't heard of or its all really small things.

Is there such thing as low carb bread?

take care Liz

Actually there is a low carb flour although it is a flour
substitute:

See below:

Dimitri

atkins.comcooking and baking.htmlOpen ↗

Net Carbs: 3 grams

Atkins Quick QuisineTM Bake Mix

Bake Mix for flour in your favorite recipes and savor the
delicious, nutrient-rich results!

I was going to ask about this today, but you beat me to the
punch. In the supermarket today, I saw "low carb tortillas."
Always interested in new products and new advertising
techniques, I looked at the rest of the package and realized
that there was nothing special about the tortillas. They're
low carb because they're thin. I believe I remember this
coming up in the world of marketing once before. Many years
ago, a package bread manufacturer came up with the idea of
slicing the bread very thin and advertising that each slice
had fewer calories than the regular stuff. (Going from
memory, details foggy.) New regulations had to be put in
place as far as what means could be used to call something
"low calorie." Apparently you couldn't call celery "lo cal"
either because celery is naturally low in calories. There's
no such thing as a high calorie celery stalk. (And one
shudders to think of it should someone invent it.) Perhaps
new regulations will be coming out soon on what's called
"low carb" and what isn't.

Meanwhile, I should think there would be such a thing as low
carb flour in the health food store. There's soy flour and
nut flour. You don't use them as you use wheat flour, but
they are flour and they aren't as high in carbohydrate
content so the word does make sense.

--Lia

MisNomer said:

So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a fellow was there right near the flour. He
says, "I'm looking for low carb flour"... so, thinking he
was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder what low carb
flour is
- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked away.

oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost half price! But on getting home - I am
thinking what do they use to make "low carb" stuff out of?
Anything I have seen advertised "low carb" is full of
stuff I haven't heard of or its all really small things.

Is there such thing as low carb bread?

Julia Altshuler said:

I was going to ask about this today, but you beat me to
the punch. In the supermarket today, I saw "low carb
tortillas." ... Meanwhile, I should think there would be
such a thing as low carb flour in the health food store.

Walmart had some samples of the low carb tortillas a coupla
weeks ago. They taste very similar to the low carb breads
around - like somebody replaced half the wheat flour with
sawdust. I was not impressed. Edrena

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Julia Altshuler

I was going to ask about this today, but you beat me to the
punch. In the supermarket today, I saw "low carb
tortillas." Always interested in new products and new
advertising techniques, I looked at the rest of the package
and realized that there was nothing special about the
tortillas. They're low carb because they're thin. I believe
I remember this coming up in the world of marketing once
before. Many years ago, a package bread manufacturer came
up with the idea of slicing the bread very thin and
advertising that each slice had fewer calories than the
regular stuff. (Going from memory, details foggy.) New
regulations had to be put in place as far as what means
could be used to call something "low calorie." Apparently
you couldn't call celery "lo cal" either because celery is
naturally low in calories. There's no such thing as a high
calorie celery stalk. (And one shudders to think of it
should someone invent it.) Perhaps new regulations will be
coming out soon on what's called "low carb" and what isn't.

Meanwhile, I should think there would be such a thing as
low carb flour in the health food store. There's soy flour
and nut flour. You don't use them as you use wheat flour,
but they are flour and they aren't as high in carbohydrate
content so the word does make sense.

--Lia

Hey, use celery flour!

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Nut flours consist of approximately: 45% Carbs 50%
Fats 5% Protein

The one thing all low-carbers have in common is low brain
cell count... make no mistake about it, low carb dieting is
in fact an eating disorder.

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NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

i use KING ARTHUR'S WHOLE WHEAT (pastry) flour, in my LC
WOE. just not very often.

as for bread, if you have VILLAGE HEARTH bread, look for the
LIGHT version. it is LOW CARB and wonderful!

--
rosie

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
president, or that we are to stand by the president right
or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is
morally treasonable to the American public."
........................................T.Roosevelt

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: "MisNomer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: > So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour,
: > and fresh
yeast, a
: fellow was
: > there right near the flour. He says, "I'm looking for
: > low carb
flour"...
: so,
: > thinking he was being funny I laughed and said "I
: > wonder what
low carb
: flour is
: > - air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked
: > away.
: >
: > oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both
: > of which
were almost
: half
: > price! But on getting home - I am thinking what do they
: > use to
make "low
: carb"
: > stuff out of? Anything I have seen advertised "low
: > carb" is
full of stuff
: I
: > haven't heard of or its all really small things.
: >
: > Is there such thing as low carb bread?
: >
:
: Low carb baked good do exist but in my experience
: range from
barely edible
: to horrid. Bread and similar things are made from
: ingredients such
as
: toasted wheat bran, almond meal, soy protein, whey, and
: usually a
little bit
: of wheat flour.
:
:
: --
: Peter Aitken
:
: Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.
:
:

The one thing all low-carbers have in common is low brain
cell count... make no
: mistake about it, low carb dieting is in fact an eating
: disorder.
:
:
:: Sheldon

sheldon,

having worked with eating disorder clients i can tell you
that your statement is complete and total [censored]!

Some of the regular carb breads are like that.

take care Liz

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Walmart had some samples of the low carb tortillas a coupla
weeks ago. They taste very similar to the low carb breads
around - like somebody replaced half the wheat flour with
sawdust. I was not impressed. Edrena

I remember those thinner sliced breads!

Hmmm... nut flour sounds rather good doesn't it?

take care Liz

Hey! Look what Julia Altshuler
<[email hidden]> wrote :

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I was going to ask about this today, but you beat me to the
punch. In the supermarket today, I saw "low carb
tortillas." Always interested in new products and new
advertising techniques, I looked at the rest of the package
and realized that there was nothing special about the
tortillas. They're low carb because they're thin. I believe
I remember this coming up in the world of marketing once
before. Many years ago, a package bread manufacturer came
up with the idea of slicing the bread very thin and
advertising that each slice had fewer calories than the
regular stuff. (Going from memory, details foggy.) New
regulations had to be put in place as far as what means
could be used to call something "low calorie." Apparently
you couldn't call celery "lo cal" either because celery is
naturally low in calories. There's no such thing as a high
calorie celery stalk. (And one shudders to think of it
should someone invent it.) Perhaps new regulations will be
coming out soon on what's called "low carb" and what isn't.

Meanwhile, I should think there would be such a thing as
low carb flour in the health food store. There's soy flour
and nut flour. You don't use them as you use wheat flour,
but they are flour and they aren't as high in carbohydrate
content so the word does make sense.

Thanks for the link. According to the ingrediets list it
uses: Wheat Gluten, Corn Starch, Leavening (Baking Soda,
Monocalcium Phosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Casein
Protein, Whey Protein, Salt.

I would imagine that using just plain wheat gluten would
work then. Now I know.

take care Liz

Hey! Look what "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote :

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Actually there is a low carb flour although it is a flour
substitute:

See below:

Dimitri

atkins.comcooking and baking.htmlOpen ↗

Net Carbs: 3 grams

Atkins Quick QuisineTM Bake Mix

Bake Mix for flour in your favorite recipes and savor the
delicious, nutrient-rich results!

Non fat Alfredo! lol... which reminds me - I picked up a
jar of alfredo sauce once, it was terrible (too vinegary?)
- best made from scratch, full fat or not. Learned my
lesson, again.

take care Liz

Hey! Look what "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote :

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This will be with us far a while. Like people calling my
radio program asking for non-fat Alfredo recipes and
eggless custards, but not fake stuff for all the years that
low-fat was THE answer. We have a new THE answer.

In article <[email hidden]>,

MisNomer said:

So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a fellow was there right near the flour. He
says, "I'm looking for low carb flour"... so, thinking he
was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder what low carb
flour is
- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked away.

oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost half price! But on getting home - I am
thinking what do they use to make "low carb" stuff out of?
Anything I have seen advertised "low carb" is full of
stuff I haven't heard of or its all really small things.

Is there such thing as low carb bread?

take care Liz

Yes. GNC sells a low carb bake mix. It's not flour tho'.

K.

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Thanks for the link. I was using cooks.com but this one has
better features and more items.

take care Liz

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MisNomer said:

I remember those thinner sliced breads!

Hmmm... nut flour sounds rather good doesn't it?

I'm not sure I've ever had true nut flour before. I've
certainly ground up walnuts or almonds in the cuisinart
often enough. That produces ground nuts. I use them in
cookies. (I used to cook for vegan diets, and nuts are a
great tasty fat for those who don't eat meat or dairy.) If
you keep grinding, however, you get walnut butter or almond
butter, not flour. Maybe the problem is with definitions
here. I've seen nut flours for sale, but come to think of
it, I'm not sure what defines a nut flour.

--Lia

I would imagine that nut flour is ground - like you said -
to just before getting butter. Some cheesecake recipes call
for a ground nut crust, but then again, maybe the oils are
taken out before the grinding process.

take care Liz

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I'm not sure I've ever had true nut flour before. I've
certainly ground up walnuts or almonds in the cuisinart
often enough. That produces ground nuts. I use them in
cookies. (I used to cook for vegan diets, and nuts are a
great tasty fat for those who don't eat meat or dairy.) If
you keep grinding, however, you get walnut butter or almond
butter, not flour. Maybe the problem is with definitions
here. I've seen nut flours for sale, but come to think of
it, I'm not sure what defines a nut flour.

--Lia

MisNomer said:

I would imagine that nut flour is ground - like you said -
to just before getting butter. Some cheesecake recipes
call for a ground nut crust, but then again, maybe the
oils are taken out before the grinding process.

I'd guess something is done to remove the oil or some of the
oil too. That's the only way I can figure to get something
with the consistency of nut butter.

Changing the topic a bit. The vegan peanut cookies made with
peanut butter, added oil (soy, corn, whatever), maple syrup
and whole wheat flour are good enough to get by the folks
who like eggs, butter and sugar in their cookies. They're
really peanutty. Use the same recipe for almond cookies, and
you've got something unusual and elegant.

--Lia

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Dimitri said:

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So, I go to safeway to get some whole wheat flour, and
fresh yeast, a

fellow was

Quoted message said:

there right near the flour. He says, "I'm looking for
low carb flour"...

so,

Quoted message said:

thinking he was being funny I laughed and said "I wonder
what low carb

flour is

Quoted message said:

- air? The guy looked at me all disgusted and walked
away.

oh well, I picked up the flour and the yeast - both of
which were almost

half

Quoted message said:

price! But on getting home - I am thinking what do they
use to make "low

carb"

Quoted message said:

stuff out of? Anything I have seen advertised "low carb"
is full of stuff

I

Quoted message said:

haven't heard of or its all really small things.

Is there such thing as low carb bread?

take care Liz

Actually there is a low carb flour although it is a flour
substitute:

See below:

Dimitri

atkins.comcooking and baking.htmlOpen ↗

Net Carbs: 3 grams

Atkins Quick QuisineTM Bake Mix

Bake Mix for flour in your favorite recipes and savor the
delicious, nutrient-rich results!

This stuff actually works pretty good. I've tried it. ;-)
Made with soy products.

GNC carries a similar product for about 1/2 the price of
Atkins brand.

K.

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